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After reading about all the BS going on at Evergreen. I thought that share the email war we parents are being put in the middle of. We came to "Premier" this year because everyone said that was the thing to do and we would be surprised at how professional these clubs are run. What a joke!!! Then someone tells me about this website which at first I thought was pretty good info on tournaments and predictions. Then turns into stuff about the Crossfire being the Evil Empire and they break all the rules, Tyncastle doesn’t play soccer they just run, Evergreen overcharged and lied and to add to this my kids club has coaches wanting to fire the Board of Directors along with the coaches on the board.  When will this insanity stop!
And to my kids club, act like adults, sit down and work it out just like it is done in the "Real World" instead of putting your "Customers" in the middle!

Email from the NWN Coaches  to Parents and Board
January 11, 2009
Notice to President
Pursuant to our bylaws, section 2.3, the President shall call a special meeting upon demand of one-tenth of the voting members.
Accordingly, demand is hereby made by over 50% of the voting members that a special, emergency meeting of the members be called on January 25, 2009 at 8:00 P.M. at Rock Woodfired Pizza and Brewery for the purpose of holding an election for all the members of the board of directors and any other business deemed appropriate by the members including removal of a director from the board of directors in violation of the bylaws. Who was elected to his position by the members.
In order not to be in violation of Washington State law and the IRS regulations for failure to have any annual meeting and elections an immediate election is necessary alsonot to endanger our non-profit status. The last election was held in June 2006 and the board of directors has failed and refused to hold required lawful elections.
Nomination should be sent to NWN Boys Coaching Director Mark Collings and/or NWN Girls Coaching Director Arby Busey.  The 2 year term of all directors has expired and all directors except one have never been elected by the membership in accordance with the by-laws.
Each member of the membership will vote for 7 candidates only 3 of whom can be non coaches. The 7 candidates getting the most votes will be the new directors except that only 3 can be non-coaches.
Respectfully submitted,
Signed by a number of the Coaches
Email reply from Board to Parents and Coaches
January 14, 2009
Dear NWN Parents:
You may have recently received an unauthorized and inappropriate communication from a disgruntled group of coaches. As is true with most things in life, there are at least 2 sides to every story; but the purpose of this note is not to debate any particular issue at this point in time. The purpose is just to, regardless of what you may have heard or the contents of the ill-advised message from the stated coaches, assure you that NWN is doing just fine and will continue to provide the quality and caring services to your children as it has in the past. For this Club and this Board, the focus is and always has been on your child. Our Club’s philosophy and priority is the development of talented youth players who receive high recognition in WA State, Regionally and in National forums. Our Club is very proud of its traditions and has been acknowledged as one of the best programs in WA State
As with all growing clubs, there are some issues which require resolution. The representations of the stated select group of coaches, however, are simply misleading and far from wholly accurate. Certainly, the Board of Directors is mortified at such an embarrassing and inappropriate method of expressing concerns; and we apologize on behalf of those coaches for such an action…an action which compelled this communication.
As you may or may not know from the recent press release, the Board has hired Cliff McCrath as the interim Technical Director to help the Board deal with and resolve those issues in an expedient, efficient and appropriate manner; and we have every confidence that Cliff will be successful in those actions.
Please note that only authorized communications generated or approved by the Board of Directors speak for this Club and will have any validity; and you should disregard any further communications from the present group which generated the most recent e-mail. The Club does not utilize "g-mail" addresses for its dealings.
Patience would be the most prudent action at this point; as the points of resolution should begin to become evident in the very near future.
Sincerely,
 NWN Board of Directors
Email reply  from NWN Coaches to Parents and Board
In review of the letter from the board of directors please note the following.
Article 9, section 9.1 of the bylaws states the bylaws may be altered, amended or repealed in whole or in part and new bylaws may be adopted by a vote of the majority of the members at any annual meeting of the members or any special meeting of the members when the proposed amendment has been set out in the notice of such meeting. 
Section 2.1 states that membership shall be limited to one head coach or one assistant coach or other designated representative for each registered NWN team
The coaches, who on January 12, 2009 called for a special meeting for election of the board, represent a large majority of the voting members of the Club. These coaches hereby state that since June 2006 none of them has taken part in a meeting or received notice of any such meeting to amend the bylaws. Therefore, there are no duly ratified bylaws since 2006 and those being referenced here are the current and in-effect bylaws. Any records that support a claim to the contrary of modification of the bylaws by the members should be brought forth at once to resolve dispute and preserve the integrity and reputation of the Club and ensure the best service continues to be provided to the families and players within the Club.
In addition, these same coaches affirm that they have neither been notified of nor participated in an election of board members since June 2006. As board terms are only 2 years, this suggests that any person currently acting as a Club board member is usurping such powers, particularly in light of repeatedly ignored calls by members for board elections. Any records that support a claim to the contrary of an election by the members should be brought forth at once to resolve dispute and preserve the integrity and reputation of the Club and ensure the best service continues to be provided to the families and players within the Club.
If those currently acting as board members wish to do what is right and set an election time, date (on or before January 25), and location for all board positions, and provide reasonable notice to the entire membership, we will take part. However, repeated requests for elections have been ignored and unless such an election meeting is set, we are left with no option but to proceed with the election meeting as we've indicated in order to comply with Washington State and IRS rules and ensure we are not failing in our responsibility within the Club to elect the Club's board.
The coaches noted above believe we have acted to protect the Club in a situation in which certain parties appear to be acting without and against the authority of the bylaws and have been repeatedly unresponsive to calls for compliance with the bylaws. We will not respond to personal attacks as our only wish is to keep our Club together and as strong as it can be by conducting business the right way.
We urge the board to join in having the required elections so we can move forward together. This will be our final public correspondence. 
NWN coaches
Email reply from Board to Parents and Coaches
January 16, 2009
 Dear NWN Coaches and Parents,
 The Board of Directors continues to be amazed by the actions of these few select coaches.  We have verified, as a result of discussions with many of the coaches whose names appeared on the previous letter, that they have been mislead, and are quite confused; as are the parents.  These continued emails and demands by these select coaches directed toward the Board are inappropriate and invalid.  It appears that these coaches want to wage an inflammatory and misleading debate via e-mail to avoid the real issues that will soon begin resolution by appropriate and authorized action.
 We first, again, want to apologize to the families of NWN for this corrosive behavior used by these few select coaches.  With that intent in mind, we hope the following will clarify the Board’s position and give you a clearer understanding of the current state of affairs.  As we stated in our previous letter, it is our intent and hope that we will continue to resolve these internal issues with these coaches and communicate in a professional manner.  Our focus and priority needs to be with our Club and our valued athletes. 
 NWN is a player-centric organization.  We realize that our coaching staff is a critical piece of our overall mission.  This is why we have given our coaches such a strong voice in club management.  Each coach has a vote in matters of board elections equal to the number of teams that they coach.  However, their ability to institute changes needs to follow the process that has been established by our bylaws. Sending inflammatory, unauthorized emails to the general membership is certainly not the correct way to initiate change.  In fact, their actions have called into question their judgment and temperament in matters relating to club administration.
In response to this last unauthorized message sent yesterday at 4:09pm by the identified coaches, it is important to note the following facts regarding the demands of these few coaches: 
           
 1.  The letter received from this coaching group demands a special meeting under a portion of an older version of the Bylaws and the request is noted.  These coaches also attempt, however, to take and demand action completely outside the authority of the Bylaws, including attempting to set the time, date and location of such a special meeting.  That meeting, as suggested by the Coaches, would be outside the Bylaws, and would, as a result, be without any legal significance or effect on the Club or for any other purpose. 
           
2.   In Section 2.3, the Bylaws are clear that once the President is notified of the desire for such a special meeting, the President and the Board will set the time, date and location of such a meeting and will provide the notice of that meeting… not the coaches.  The President and the Board of Directors will notify the coaches of the proper date, time and location for the requested meeting.
 3. The letter from these identified coaches also misstates the facts by saying that the “last election was held in June 2006”.  The Club records support the fact that in 2006, our meeting was held on April 18, 2006 at 8:00pm and not June 2006.  Further, our last annual Membership Meeting was held on May 22, 2007 at Rock Pizza in Lynnwood, WA.  Below is one excerpt and is an important piece we voted in during the 2007 meeting:
 4.  John Wagner, Past President of NWN before he resigned, initiated an oral vote and changed the bylaws on 5/22/07 as a result which carried by sufficient Member vote.  So, the attempts by this Coaches’ group to indicate that (a) there have not been any revisions to the Bylaws; and (b) that the Bylaws have not been followed as to such amendments, are both incorrect and misleading.  The Technical Director at that time was Chuck Sekyra and he was present at this members meeting.
 5. All Directors have been elected to serve on the Board in strict compliance with the Bylaws, and anyone removed as a Director was accomplished as required under the same Bylaws; all of which is supported by the Club records.  The coaches’ letter which states that the Board members have not been elected according to the Bylaws is not correct on that issue either; nor is the letter correct on terms remaining.
 6. The request of Mark Collings and Arby Busey for nominations for Board positions to be submitted to them is completely in violation of the Bylaws regarding that process, and will not have any binding effect on the Club.
 7. The last paragraph of the Coaches’ letter is also not a proper nor a complete listing of the required make-up of the Board under the present Bylaws.
 8. There are significant and multiple reasons, supported by appropriate facts and circumstances, for any delays in an annual meeting, as most of the coaches are well aware (especially those that served on the Board of Directors during this current time period in question and voted in favor of a related course of action); and those issues will be resolved as well and within a time frame when the full truth of the underlying problems can be disclosed, discussed and addressed.  We have every intention to have an annual Membership Meeting for this current 15 month season.  Due to the extension of this 15 month season, this complies with all 501 (c) 3 regulations.  WA State statutes provide that a delay to a hold an annual meeting does not invalidate or affect our corporate existence. 
As you must know by now, one of the steps the Board took to effectively work towards a resolution of some of the more serious issues facing the Club which resulted in significant part from previous actions and inactions of its coaching leadership, was to hire Cliff McCrath initially as a consultant and then as the interim Technical Director. 
Given Cliff’s reputation and known expertise in the world of soccer organizations and coaching issues, it is believed that he will be a major force to help the Board deal with and resolve the present issues in an expedient, efficient and appropriate manner; in a manner that would preserve, rather than threaten the Club and its continued efforts on behalf of the kids; and we have every confidence that Cliff will be successful in those actions.  It appears that Cliff’s hiring and known abilities to sort out difficulties and resolve those may have frightened some of the coaches involved in this communication for a variety of reasons. 
Please note that only authorized communications from the Board of Directors speak for this Club and will have any validity and you should disregard any further communications from the present group which keep generating these emails.
There are many appropriate methods of expressing concerns and dealing with differing opinions.  We hope this will be our last public message of this content to our Coaches and Parents of NWN.  We need to allow the appropriate procedures to take place so this ongoing dispute can have resolution.  Thank you for your continued support during this time. 
Sincerely,
NWN Board of Directors
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Holy Smokes!

Three main points immediately jump out at me.

1)   The current President of the Club has admitted that there was no meeting in 2008.    BANG!

2)   A main issue of dispute is going to be the validity of the 2007 meeting.  Apparently a meeting was held but the coaches were not notified of it?  Reading between the lines, that suggests that it may have been improperly held or lacked a quorom.  In either of those cases, it is invalid and the previous set of bylaws is active.

3)   One wonders if the "updated" bylaws have been properly sent to the state?   There was one association in Eastern Washington which did not send in its bylaw revisions since 1999 and to its vast surprise, had been operating out of compliance with itself for 8 years!

In anycase, this is clearly a situation where the local Association (whichever one NWN is part of) should be brought in immediately.

By the admission of the President of the NWN, the board is and has been acting out of compliance with either of its sets of bylaws (unless there is something about no longer having to have annual meetings somewhere in the perputed new bylaws?).  Clearly something is going far wrong at NWN.

Now, Cliff is a legend in Washington Soccer, and NWN is extremely lucky to have him on board.  One hopes he does not throw up his hands in disgust and walk away.    And one hopes that families do not do the same.   Normally, I would instinctively support the coaches, but in this case, since they are NWN coaches (who recruited a player from one of our local PDL teams last year), I am going to remain neutral.   

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SOAP OPERA :-[ This is just so tragic. The board is being undermined and should really move swiftly to dismiss the coaches in my view. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong on the substantive matter. What does matter is that these coaches are only serving to create a chasm in the organization that they may never be able to repair and if they do, it will simply take years for the trust levels to return. The coaches method of dealing with their issues are wholly inappropriate regardless of how right they may be about the problems they see in the organization. They have only served to smear the club and send parents and players running for the cover of another club. Lets publish the names of these coaches so we can all avoid trying out for their teams going forward!!
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I hope that this can get all worked out, Cliff has a job in front of him, but he is a uniting force.  Go Uncle Knubby!!!!!! :) :)
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Pass a bylaw that Uncle Knubby can dump the board, then support the kids and their coaches.  All the noise about the IRS is a bunch of hooey....
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Welcome aboard Tired. ;D ;D

D got this info a few days ago but did not post it... for the life of me cannot remember why D held back...
Must be old age LOL
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Maybe you were just being hopeful they'd work it out. 
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What the heck is going on in the world of Washington State Soccer? We have Coaches at Crossfire that "cross the line". We have Evergreen that is overcoming a financial hurdle (under somewhat suspicious circumstances and without "transparency" I might add). Now we have what appears to be serious infighting at NWN!

It sure seems to me that a lot of Clubs (People???) have forgotten that this is not about them, it's about the Kids!
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What the heck is going on in the world of Washington State Soccer? We have Coaches at Crossfire that "cross the line". We have Evergreen that is overcoming a financial hurdle (under somewhat suspicious circumstances and without "transparency" I might add). Now we have what appears to be serious infighting at NWN!

It sure seems to me that a lot of Clubs (People???) have forgotten that this is not about them, it's about the Kids!

Hmm, and it's the "established" clubs that seem to be having (causing?) the problems.  Then again, when you mix money, egos, and a lack of integrity... what else do you think will happen? 

Remember when this was the simplest, cheapest, most fun game to play?
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It really looks like this is much more serious than "a bunch of disgruntled coaches".    The Bylaws of the Association, the legality of the Board of Directors, and all the decisions that flow out of both are in serious dispute here.  

Obviously, this did not just come out of the blue, did not blow up overnight.

Probably the best way to have handled this would have been for the coaches to file an official grevience with their association (what association is NWNs part of, anyway?).   The Association judicial panel would have ruled on whatever is going on, with having both sides present their arguements and facts.   The loser would then have appealled to the WSYSA Judicial Committee, and things likely would have been settled there.

One interesting side note - Cliff will likely have signed a contract before allowing his name to be released.  If it is proven that the current board is enplaced erroniously , then the contract may well be invalid.   It may be that the board members who signed the contract with him are personally obligated to pay it off, while NWN is not obligated to pay or use him.    As this might be considered a situation of malfeasance on the part of the board members, it would likely not be an issue covered under the liability insurance of the board or the club.  

So there is a lot riding on this.

And while the IRS probably would not get involved, maintaining the tax exempt status is very important.   There are requirements at the state level (?) about clubs and associations doing so, and I know that many if not most associations require that to be kept in good standing for themselves and all component clubs.  

Anyone remember the storry about the Long Island Little League club a decade or so ago?   They held an election, the incumbent board was voted out, but refused to leave?   They refused to turn over the keys and tried to keep operating as if they had won....

I'm sure that there is a great deal of behind the scenes politics involved here and it would be tremendously interesting to know all about it, but really, this entire episode is going to hurt the club (so what?) and drive kids and families away (BOO!!!).

I wonder what role the PDL played in this mess?   Cliff is not one of the Bobbie Howe-Dave Schumacher drinking corterie, yet is so established that the PDL and WYS would have to listen when he spoke.   Would he have been a counterbalance to the PDL-LC?  Would outsiders dabble in another club to help achieve the results that they want for the state system?  

Keep us informed.   This is not as clear cut as the KYS mess, where PDL/DOS is trying to destroy a successful club operation for their own filthy purpo$e$.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2009, 08:39:00 PM »

I am not at liberty to say ANYTHING on this matter ... but the emails were "rogue" . Leave it at that and do not read anything into this !!!
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2009, 09:01:42 PM »

I wondered how long it would take for someone to open their fat trap about the business at NWN. There is so much more to the situation than meets the eye. Don't waste your energy commenting on what you don't know.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2009, 09:36:07 PM »

  :-X
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 01:47:13 AM by Flip Flop »
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2009, 09:48:30 PM »

I don't know why I'm getting into this, but here goes. 

TERM LIMITS!!! That said, what the board says is LAW. No coaches on the board either!!!  People getting entrenched in their position is what is wrong here.  Entrenched people have an agenda.  Paid coaches have an agenda.  Parents, or other concerned citizens, do what is best for the kids.  I don't care if you are talking PDL or club select.  A rotating round of concerned, non-paid, people and most of this goes away.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2009, 09:59:09 PM »

Sorry Flip Flop, but I have to agree with Gumby's point on this one.  Having been on the Premier Merry go Round for the last 6 years, I can count the coaches who have had my child's interest at heart on one hand-and we've seen many coaches.  I have yet to meet a coach who cared more about a child's development than the parent's.  There are definitely some amazing coaches out there, but I believe a board consisting of parents and neutral parties is more likely to make decisions aimed at what is best for the kids.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2009, 10:33:45 PM »

 :-X
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2009, 10:41:08 PM »

I am not at liberty to say ANYTHING on this matter ... but the emails were "rogue" . Leave it at that and do not read anything into this !!!


These emails posted are NOT "rogue" - they are exactly what was sent to all families in NWN and they are correct.
Sounds like someone is trying to cover their a$$ - cat is out of the bag FINALLY!  (It has been SOOOO LONG!)
We all need to wait and see how the situation gets worked out before a lot of speculation and what not goes on.
I have faith in the coaches!  They are the ones that are trying to do what is RIGHT and ETHICAL. 

Before you speak you should be sure you know all the facts flip flop.  Before you say this was sent to ALL NWN families you should be sure you know that.  I know numerous families who did not receive either e-mails from the coaches, but received the two from the board of directors.  While quite a few did receive it not evey family did.  i would assume these select coaches did not have access to all families e-mails or this was sent to the managers of each team to pass on and only a few managers chose to be smart not pass the unaurthorized e-mails on.  In my opinion Mark is a complete A__.  By the way anyone notice how SPU did his first year of coaching  Get off your high horse and look where you came from.  It's about the kids not YOU.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2009, 10:42:29 PM »

Fair enough, elections need to be held ASAP.  That is an extremely valid point, but coaches hold 4 of 7 board spots?  C'mon... zero is more like it.  Coaches are employees, very valuable employees, but employees just the same.  The DOC, in a non-voting role, can speak for them as long as no BOD member is allowed to accumulate too much power... TERM LIMITS!!!

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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2009, 10:43:18 PM »

stephen this is very interesting to read i also believe that it is a parent from that big club off fourofive that is starting this trouble do you still think it will go away or will that delusional mother continue to cause woes among her team her club and other clubs as well please answer me this time it is fun to read what you say on this blog even though i sometimes forget what your wps myspace handle is please remind me in the private place again pickle
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2009, 10:47:47 PM »

I don't want to comment on this thread, but did want to comment on having a committed coach for your kid. Now I'm not sure all of my parents feel the same but it made me feel good after being out of town to read this line in an email from one of my parents. Especially with all the stuff going on these days in youth soccer in many of the clubs. I am also not saying i do everything right all of the time, but I do try to do what's right for my players.

This quote made my day and also reaffirmed that my belief of doing what's right for all of the kids is always the way to go. Even if at times it gets me into grief with the club. I truly believe that soccer is a great game, but coaches have a responsibility to teach good work ethic, good morals, and just overall placing a standard not just on the field but off the field that the players can carry thru life. Below is the quote from the email i received from one of my parents.

"Wow, our club has sure had a fascinating year of coaching changes ... not sure what to think about it honestly, but I do know that we are thankful to have you for our son.  Someone who is standup, honest, and focused on the right things for the right reasons. "

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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2009, 10:53:22 PM »

DD is my youngest and I have had kids in Little League, high level swimming as well as soccer.  The one constant I have seen is while most everyone involved wants the best for the kids they do not see eye to eye.  I have the unmost confidence those involved will get this issue worked out. 
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2009, 10:59:44 PM »

is that you stephen i cannot remember if you were an animal or a ball type blogidentity you can answer me in the private place is you wish pickle
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2009, 11:28:21 PM »

I don't want to comment on this thread, but did want to comment on having a committed coach for your kid. Now I'm not sure all of my parents feel the same but it made me feel good after being out of town to read this line in an email from one of my parents. Especially with all the stuff going on these days in youth soccer in many of the clubs. I am also not saying i do everything right all of the time, but I do try to do what's right for my players.

This quote made my day and also reaffirmed that my belief of doing what's right for all of the kids is always the way to go. Even if at times it gets me into grief with the club. I truly believe that soccer is a great game, but coaches have a responsibility to teach good work ethic, good morals, and just overall placing a standard not just on the field but off the field that the players can carry thru life. Below is the quote from the email i received from one of my parents.

"Wow, our club has sure had a fascinating year of coaching changes ... not sure what to think about it honestly, but I do know that we are thankful to have you for our son.  Someone who is standup, honest, and focused on the right things for the right reasons. "



Way to go Squash.....Well deserved words of encouragement, I wish there were more like you out there with our kids best interests at heart!
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2009, 11:33:25 PM »


"Wow, our club has sure had a fascinating year of coaching changes ... not sure what to think about it honestly, but I do know that we are thankful to have you for our son.  Someone who is standup, honest, and focused on the right things for the right reasons. "


I knew I liked you for a reason. WTG Coach! 8)
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2009, 11:44:54 PM »

 :-X

 
« Last Edit: September 16, 2009, 01:48:42 AM by Flip Flop »
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2009, 12:08:46 AM »

The only thing wrong with youth sports are adults. The kids are great and could probably run themselves as well as the adults do these days. No clue on what is going on here and so not directed at this situation. Just a commentary on the adult problems on here that rarely have anything to do with kids.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2009, 12:12:12 AM »

So much to question on this topic but I highly doubt this kind of issue is unique to NWN. I am not a fan of coaches being on soccer boards but especially in cases where the Board hires coaching directors who then hire the coaches. This seems to cause a conflict of interest and I cannot imagine any executive in any company who would want their direct reports as their governing board members.

As I watch all the political BS that has gone on in a number of clubs over the past few years, I see the same mistakes over and over again. Club boards continue to throw around their authority because they lose sight of the simple truth : Parents are loyal always and only to their children. If the player likes his/her coach, the parents will be loyal to the coach. If the parents and players are loyal to the coach, they will follow said coach almost anywhere. Anyone parent who tells you they are loyal to their club is fooling you or fooling themselves.

My advice to the NWN Board is to hold a meeting and allow the election. If you cannot present enough of a solid vision for the benefit of the kids to get enough votes, get out and let someone else take over. If you have more support than those who would seek to remove you, they should resign. If you can present a great vision, terrific. Let the parents decide. Remember that parents are going to vote one way or another, either in a meeting in January or with their wallets during next tryouts.
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2009, 12:31:22 AM »

 :o
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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2009, 12:59:41 AM »

I am not at liberty to say ANYTHING on this matter ... but the emails were "rogue" . Leave it at that and do not read anything into this !!!


These emails posted are NOT "rogue" - they are exactly what was sent to all families in NWN and they are correct.
Sounds like someone is trying to cover their a$$ - cat is out of the bag FINALLY!  (It has been SOOOO LONG!)
We all need to wait and see how the situation gets worked out before a lot of speculation and what not goes on.
I have faith in the coaches!  They are the ones that are trying to do what is RIGHT and ETHICAL. 

Before you speak you should be sure you know all the facts flip flop.  Before you say this was sent to ALL NWN families you should be sure you know that.  I know numerous families who did not receive either e-mails from the coaches, but received the two from the board of directors.  While quite a few did receive it not evey family did.  i would assume these select coaches did not have access to all families e-mails or this was sent to the managers of each team to pass on and only a few managers chose to be smart not pass the unaurthorized e-mails on.  In my opinion Mark is a complete A__.  By the way anyone notice how SPU did his first year of coaching  Get off your high horse and look where you came from.  It's about the kids not YOU.

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I am not on a horse, thank you.  
Yes, it is about the kids - that is why we are having this conversation  :)  
Degrading people here doesn't solve this very large issue.  

#1.  Fact is all managers got the letter from the coaches, whether they chose to send on to the teams was up to them.   Why are they unauthorized emails?  the letter stated facts by more than 50% of the membership.
#2.  some managers chose to neglect some teams?  Perhaps so.  Appears your manager didn't think your team needed to know the facts.  You who paid the fee for your child to be in this club.....  That's too bad.  You should ask for those letters from your manager.
#3.  Board members have changed this year because the president(treasurer)  didn't get along with them!  Wow... crazy facts here.
#4.  Mark who?  There are a few Mark's in this club.  I think there are 3 or more.......  be nice now.  
#5.  The meeting will be good - they can decide if this is a club run by a board instead of a dictatorship.


It is really interesting to have this information out on this forum now after it has been stewing behind the scenes for MONTHS.




 

It should be noted that 13 of 18 NWN coaches signed the original letter, representing 20 of 31 teams.  Of the five coaches who did not sign the letter, three are currently on the board and one was out of town.  The push for elections and proper procedure is coming from a significant majority, not a disgruntled minority.  Elections are the right thing to do legally and morally, as it will either legitimize the current board (most of whom were appointed, not elected) or replace them with the choice of the voting members. 


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Re: Some NWN Coaches and the Board of Directors just can't seem to get along!
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2009, 01:39:10 AM »



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It should be noted that 13 of 18 NWN coaches signed the original letter, representing 20 of 31 teams.  Of the five coaches who did not sign the letter, three are currently on the board and one was out of town.  The push for elections and proper procedure is coming from a significant majority, not a disgruntled minority.  Elections are the right thing to do legally and morally, as it will either legitimize the current board (most of whom were appointed, not elected) or replace them with the choice of the voting members. 



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Those numbers are compelling and seem to indicate a vote of no-confidence in the current board. How do you run an organization when your paid staff has no confidence in you?

As they say, it is time to "get all the liars in one room".
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