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Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« on: July 03, 2009, 09:59:26 PM »

I see some signs of Democratic struggles in a variety of issues. Economy still struggling, Iraq calming down but Afghanistan heating up, North Korea and Iran becoming more belligerent, health care reform on the edge are all make for some serious challenges. However, when I look at the deeply divided Republican party and see the most recent news relating to Gov. Palin's resignation and Gov. Sanfords interesting actions I can't help but wonder what the loyal opposition is.

 Have to look it up but recently read an excellent article by a Republican who shared what the party has to do to become competitive. It was very proactive and talked about finding spokespeople who are positive and for something. Got me thinking about watching Reagan as a youth. Even when you disagreed with him he had a knack for not making it seem personal. He could articulate his message in a positive, optimistic, engaging manner. Caught myself ocassionally nodding my head when he spoke against my better judgement. Wonder what he would have he would think of the screeching, gotcha, and "just say no" to whatever Democrats say policy of the current party.
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 08:00:19 PM »

I see some signs of Democratic struggles in a variety of issues. Economy still struggling, Iraq calming down but Afghanistan heating up, North Korea and Iran becoming more belligerent, health care reform on the edge are all make for some serious challenges. However, when I look at the deeply divided Republican party and see the most recent news relating to Gov. Palin's resignation and Gov. Sanfords interesting actions I can't help but wonder what the loyal opposition is.

 Have to look it up but recently read an excellent article by a Republican who shared what the party has to do to become competitive. It was very proactive and talked about finding spokespeople who are positive and for something. Got me thinking about watching Reagan as a youth. Even when you disagreed with him he had a knack for not making it seem personal. He could articulate his message in a positive, optimistic, engaging manner. Caught myself ocassionally nodding my head when he spoke against my better judgement. Wonder what he would have he would think of the screeching, gotcha, and "just say no" to whatever Democrats say policy of the current party.

Ronald Reagan had many, many years' practice.   He started as an actor, then spent years traveling and speaking around the country, then spent two terms as Governor of one of the largest political units of the world (Calif), then spent some more time traveling - speaking - honing his message.     He was a pro, one with a very good sense of what his constituency needed.     I see nobody in the Republican Party today who approaches that skill level.   I think the current president  --- regardless of if one agrees with his positions or not  --- is the best communicator since RR.
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 11:45:59 AM »

I see some signs of Democratic struggles in a variety of issues. Economy still struggling, Iraq calming down but Afghanistan heating up, North Korea and Iran becoming more belligerent, health care reform on the edge are all make for some serious challenges. However, when I look at the deeply divided Republican party and see the most recent news relating to Gov. Palin's resignation and Gov. Sanfords interesting actions I can't help but wonder what the loyal opposition is.

 Have to look it up but recently read an excellent article by a Republican who shared what the party has to do to become competitive. It was very proactive and talked about finding spokespeople who are positive and for something. Got me thinking about watching Reagan as a youth. Even when you disagreed with him he had a knack for not making it seem personal. He could articulate his message in a positive, optimistic, engaging manner. Caught myself ocassionally nodding my head when he spoke against my better judgement. Wonder what he would have he would think of the screeching, gotcha, and "just say no" to whatever Democrats say policy of the current party.

Ronald Reagan had many, many years' practice.   He started as an actor, then spent years traveling and speaking around the country, then spent two terms as Governor of one of the largest political units of the world (Calif), then spent some more time traveling - speaking - honing his message.     He was a pro, one with a very good sense of what his constituency needed.     I see nobody in the Republican Party today who approaches that skill level.   I think the current president  --- regardless of if one agrees with his positions or not  --- is the best communicator since RR.

 I think the GOP really, really needs one or two people who can pick up the banner and carry the party forward.   The Republicans we see speaking today are not on par with Reagan...  Newt Gingrinch ?    Sarah Palin ?  Mitt Romney ?  John Cornyn ?  nope.     I would like to see an energized Republican party, one that can be seen as more inclusive than what we see.  This would be healthy for our country.  Far better than the current situation with the Republicans sitting to the side, taking pot shots and waiting for the Dems to stumble.   I don't think such things are good ---  regardless of which party you like.
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009, 11:48:31 PM »

I see some signs of Democratic struggles in a variety of issues. Economy still struggling, Iraq calming down but Afghanistan heating up, North Korea and Iran becoming more belligerent, health care reform on the edge are all make for some serious challenges. However, when I look at the deeply divided Republican party and see the most recent news relating to Gov. Palin's resignation and Gov. Sanfords interesting actions I can't help but wonder what the loyal opposition is.

 Have to look it up but recently read an excellent article by a Republican who shared what the party has to do to become competitive. It was very proactive and talked about finding spokespeople who are positive and for something. Got me thinking about watching Reagan as a youth. Even when you disagreed with him he had a knack for not making it seem personal. He could articulate his message in a positive, optimistic, engaging manner. Caught myself ocassionally nodding my head when he spoke against my better judgement. Wonder what he would have he would think of the screeching, gotcha, and "just say no" to whatever Democrats say policy of the current party.

Ronald Reagan had many, many years' practice.   He started as an actor, then spent years traveling and speaking around the country, then spent two terms as Governor of one of the largest political units of the world (Calif), then spent some more time traveling - speaking - honing his message.     He was a pro, one with a very good sense of what his constituency needed.     I see nobody in the Republican Party today who approaches that skill level.   I think the current president  --- regardless of if one agrees with his positions or not  --- is the best communicator since RR.


Ramabama, you get no arguement from me.  Anyone who can defeat the Clinton machine is truely a gifted politician.   And Obama is even better than that. 
However, his lack of execuative experience is already showing.    The poor organization of the White House staff, the implementation of philosophicaly effective policies (if you like where he is coming from and what he is doing) have not been followed by action or coherence.   He may have already let slip away his greatest oppportunities to make the changes that he and his most fervent supporters want, through ineptitude and lack of experience.
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 01:21:34 AM »

rr = national debt
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 01:25:31 AM »

I see some signs of Democratic struggles in a variety of issues. Economy still struggling, Iraq calming down but Afghanistan heating up, North Korea and Iran becoming more belligerent, health care reform on the edge are all make for some serious challenges. However, when I look at the deeply divided Republican party and see the most recent news relating to Gov. Palin's resignation and Gov. Sanfords interesting actions I can't help but wonder what the loyal opposition is.

 Have to look it up but recently read an excellent article by a Republican who shared what the party has to do to become competitive. It was very proactive and talked about finding spokespeople who are positive and for something. Got me thinking about watching Reagan as a youth. Even when you disagreed with him he had a knack for not making it seem personal. He could articulate his message in a positive, optimistic, engaging manner. Caught myself ocassionally nodding my head when he spoke against my better judgement. Wonder what he would have he would think of the screeching, gotcha, and "just say no" to whatever Democrats say policy of the current party.

Ronald Reagan had many, many years' practice.   He started as an actor, then spent years traveling and speaking around the country, then spent two terms as Governor of one of the largest political units of the world (Calif), then spent some more time traveling - speaking - honing his message.     He was a pro, one with a very good sense of what his constituency needed.     I see nobody in the Republican Party today who approaches that skill level.   I think the current president  --- regardless of if one agrees with his positions or not  --- is the best communicator since RR.

HUGE DIFFERENCE, Reagan didn't rely on a Teleprompter to come off as competent! Obama talks like a 7th grader without one! Good Grief!!!
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 02:11:25 AM »

rr = national debt

eight years of Ronald Reagan vs 1 year of Obama.

Do the math, Caliboy!
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009, 01:32:52 PM »

8 year of RR.....8 years of clinton do the math.............give obama time slumlord............he cleaning up the waste your savior gwb left........
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2009, 04:38:06 PM »

8 year of RR.....8 years of clinton do the math.............give obama time slumlord............he cleaning up the waste your savior gwb left........

Do the math, CaliBoy.
1 year of Obama is a greater federal debt load than 8 years of Ronald Reagan.   And Reagan had to clean up the mess left by Jimmy Carter, the worst President of the 20th century.
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 12:11:00 PM »

......slumlord clinton cleaned up the mess RR and and your boys GWB dad left........again give obama time........carter was shit......so was coolidge.....hoover.....more there is.......
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Re: Democrats Struggling but Republicans Can't Capitalize
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 02:14:41 PM »

......slumlord clinton cleaned up the mess RR and and your boys GWB dad left........again give obama time........carter was shit......so was coolidge.....hoover.....more there is.......

It's so easy to characterize while ignoring the details. Details, facts and truth can be so inconvenient. You are welcome to give Obama time. That is your right. It's also the right of other Americans to oppose the Marxist in Chief, his Marxist enablers like Cass Sunstein, Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, John Podesta, David Axelrod, Anita Dunn, Carol Browner, Mark Lloyd, John Holdren, and many, many others. You can give Obama time to "fundamentally transform" America into a Marxist/Socialist society.  Fortunately, folks who would give Obama more time are now in the minority, with a recent poll concluding that just 43% of Americans would vote for him again today.

When judging any president, to ignore the party in control of Congress is to credit any president with successes and failures they don't entirely deserve. But that would be quite inconvenient in debates where truth and facts are irrelevant.
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