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[snohodad]

Does anybody out there know if there is a wiaa rule concerning a 10 practice rule for players to be eligible for HS games. :?:

[Frog boy]

Does anybody out there know if there is a wiaa rule concerning a 10 practice rule for players to be eligible for HS games. :?:

Yes there is! I had to mis 3 games last year becouse I went to Dallas cup. They say its for fitness?Someone called WIAA and said I was gone,So they called my school!

[PrideNJoy]

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[socrtaxi]

I am not sure, whose rule it is but I suspect it is a wash. rule, although I have seen the same in other states. I think it has a two fold thing going, to make sure that the players actually attend the school, no ringers just showing up to play soccer and not properly registered at the school. The other reason to keep players and coaches on the same page as to grades. IF the grades are low but the player is never at practice and just plays in games, it is tough to track them. Just my two cents worth

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[3teams2many]

I am not sure, whose rule it is but I suspect it is a wash. rule, although I have seen the same in other states. I think it has a two fold thing going, to make sure that the players actually attend the school, no ringers just showing up to play soccer and not properly registered at the school. The other reason to keep players and coaches on the same page as to grades. IF the grades are low but the player is never at practice and just plays in games, it is tough to track them. Just my two cents worth

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At the HS where I coach the 10 practice rule is strictly adhered to. No 10, no play. From what I know, this rule is there to insure that players don't just jump ship to another school in the event that they get cut, so that they can play sports at the new school. It is there to prevent this as well as to prevent recruitment.

[SunshineGirls]

The 10 practice rule is for all sports both highschool and middle school (at least here in WA).  I think it's a good rule, not only for jumping ship,  but to show that you are truly dedicated.  My oldest daughter runs CC, a sport where they don't cut, and they also adhere to the 10 practice rule.  You need to be in shape to play and that takes dedication.

[Drfredc]

The 10 practice rule is for all sports both highschool and middle school (at least here in WA).  I think it's a good rule, not only for jumping ship,  but to show that you are truly dedicated.  My oldest daughter runs CC, a sport where they don't cut, and they also adhere to the 10 practice rule.  You need to be in shape to play and that takes dedication.

As I understand it from talking to a Snohomish HS coach (who may or may not know the exact rules, but told me the policy they operate under), it isn't just 10 practices, but 10 days of practice.  In other words, you can't squeeze 10 soccer practices into 5 days of two-a-day practices...

In other words, you can NOT do something like JV in AM & Varsity in PM, or JV from 2:30-4 and Varsity from 5-6:30, and get 2 practices per day towards your 10 practices.  

At least that's the interpretation I've been told at Snhomish HS.  

BTW, it's common practice for HS swimming and XC to practice two-a-days in the AM and PM, at least at Snohomish HS.  However, I'm not sure I've ever seen any soccer coaches alive at 5:30 AM...

Fine print -- while you are practicing and playing one HS sport (like winter HS basketball state cup), you can attend spring HS soccer practices, if prearranged with both coaches.  

Ultra Fine print -- I'm not sure if you could do winter basketball practice from 2:30-4, snack, then soccer from 5 - 6:30.. It might be physically possible, but I'm not sure how it squares with the rules.  It's not done at Snohomish HS, as far as I know.

Also, game days don't count as practices.  Which brings in one benefit of C/D/Freshman teams having alternate game schedules from JV/Varsity games.  If you don't have your 10 days in, while the JV/Varsity are playing you can practice with the C team.  When the C team plays, you practice with the JV/Varsity...  In other words, you can make use of the liberal player passes rules that are allowed in HS sports to get your practices in.

[SunshineGirls]

Yep, that's how I understand it as well.  It is 10 days of practice, not 10 practices (like am & pm).  I know the coaches at my dd highschool feel you should complete one sport before moving on to the other.  Their main concern is for the hardship it puts on your body.  And, game days do not count as a practice here either.

[meluvsoccer]

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BTW, it's common practice for HS swimming and XC to practice two-a-days in the AM and PM, at least at Snohomish HS.  However, I'm not sure I've ever seen any soccer coaches alive at 5:30 AM...

I don't think I have seen anyone 'alive' at 5:30 am.  Maybe 'cause I'm a coach, but maybe 'cause there is not the possibility to be 'alive' at such an ungodly hour.   :shock:

[Drfredc]

I don't think I have seen anyone 'alive' at 5:30 am.  Maybe 'cause I'm a coach, but maybe 'cause there is not the possibility to be 'alive' at such an ungodly hour.   :shock:

Hmmm....   Sport history reality is this is how the world used to view most sports.  Then (at least from my experience) in the 60s, US swimming (at least in N CA) broke the mold and went to two-a-days full time, year around -- 10,000-15,000M/day.  

As part of this movement, I'd get up at 4:45 pm, woof down some sort of liquid high energy breakfast, hop in my VW bug; new -- $1950 with sun roof), run around and pick up various fellow swimmers and drive 25 miles to the AM club swim practice.  Typically, we'd start with a pair of 1500M, a pair of 800s, followed by some 200Ms (locomotives -- swim each lap faster than the first), and finish with some 50s.  This group ended up with some Gold medalists...  We'd finish up around 7, home to gobble down a huge 2nd breakfast, HS (plus big lunch), then PM HS team practice (another 6-8000y), then eat some more, study, bed at 8....  Funny thing, getting to sleep was never a problem...  Go figure...  

The club coach, would show up, give the to do list & sit down and pretend to read the paper while he napped.

In restrospect it was as useful as it seemed fun at the time -- this work ethic became a big part of my college/professional career development and business entrepreneurship.  

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If one is looking for a US 2000+ two-a-day soccer variant, for the sake of development and injury reduction, it would seem prudent to look to how many top XC teams practice -- the AM practice is in the pool swimming laps.  Only for soccer, one would look water polo (where you don't touch the sides or bottom for 90 minutes).  Low injuries, very very high aerobics, excellent all around physical development (legs, torso and arms)...  Have you ever treaded water with your belly button and arms above the water for 5 seconds?  That's how you develop true finisher legs...  

Sure, many would start out almost drowning, but you'd be surprized how quickly the cream floats to the top given proper instructions.  PLUS most water polo tactics translate to soccer.   Then in the PM field practice; players wouldn't need any conditioning drills AT ALL, they'd just need skill and modest tactical work.  Have you ever seen how hard a water polo ball can be thrown?  Imagine that power on throw-ins.

As an aside, with this conditioning background, at some HS mile PE time test, having never run the mile before, I ran a 4:32 as a HS junior -- watching the HS track coach look at his watch when you cross the line -- priceless

OK, so it still might be sensible to let the soccer coach sleep in most of the time -- hire an underpaid water polo/swim coach for the AM practices -- the top WP/swim coaches are truly way out there and early AM practices wouldn't be anything new.  

END RESULT -- you'd take the developing US high speed soccer up to another level that would easily challenge the best international teams to keep up with, especially when you start limiting substitutions....   That's when those AM water polo sink or swim practices would easily win the day...

[cheese]

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BTW, it's common practice for HS swimming and XC to practice two-a-days in the AM and PM, at least at Snohomish HS.  However, I'm not sure I've ever seen any soccer coaches alive at 5:30 AM...

I don't think I have seen anyone 'alive' at 5:30 am.  Maybe 'cause I'm a coach, but maybe 'cause there is not the possibility to be 'alive' at such an ungodly hour.   :shock:

Sorry Meluv....I'm up at 4:30 everyday