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Someone speaking for the Mob
« on: October 26, 2009, 05:45:25 PM »

I DID NOT WRITE THIS, ALTHOUGH I EXPECT MANY, MANY AMERICANS, MYSELF INCLUDED, AGREE WITH MOST OR ALL OF IT.

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From Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson

We lived in California during the winters of 2007 and 2008. We became addicted to Fox News and watched O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes every night. When we got back home, we upgraded our cable to get Fox. I watched the Presidential campaign very closely. Initially because I thought the Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton and then in astonishment when they chose an even more hard-left candidate. All of last year I told everyone I could that Obama was not a Democrat, he was a Marxist. He is far to the left of any European leader and even our far left party, the NDP.

I read Saul Alinsky when I was in University. I studied him and his writing carefully. When Bill Ayers and his idiot wife were bombing and killing people at random in the Weather Underground. Weather Underground and the Black Panthers were closely allied. I read David Horowitz's account of changing from a Marxist to a conservative after seeing that the government was afraid to prosecute members of the Panthers for murdering his personal assistant. He suddenly understood the evil that Marxism really was.

After the student radicals failed in creating a Marxist revolution in the United States by violent means, they embraced Alinsky. You would be wise to read "Rules for Radicals" because it outlines how Hillary and Obama planned to get into power, and what they intended to do when they got it.

Socialism is not the correct descriptor for what Obama and the Democrats are doing. They are going to be much more far reaching than anything Sweden has ever been able to do. Obama is following Alinsky's plans, those set out in "Rules for Radicals" and his other writing. The Democrats are attempting to create one party rule in the U.S. And in achieving that, will create crisis after crisis by their own actions and use those crisis to nationalize the means of production in the U.S. You are in the middle of a communist revolution and few in the U.S. Can actually see it for what it truly is.

The U.S. Is now on the path of financial destruction. The Constitution has been shredded and individual human rights are being trampled. In less than 8 months, Obama has used a recession to take over the two largest industries in the U.S. He will debase the Dollar and is on the road to creating an incredible energy shortage that will allow him and Congress to take over the energy industry.

But by and large I think that by the 2010 elections, the Democrats will have gerrymandered electoral districts to the point that it will be impossible for them to lose control of both houses of Congress. The incredible increase in the money supply is going to create Zimbabwe and Venezuela style inflation, and with it, controls on the currency and the amount of money that can be taken out of the country.

I love America, I cannot believe how the ignorance of the American public has created a situation whereby they are going to lose their Republic and slip into an age of repression and tyranny.

I may be nuts, but so far I have been 100% in my predictions of what Obama was going to do, because I merely had to look at "Rules for Radicals" to see what was coming next.

I read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense" and in it re-read Thomas Paines pamphlet with the same name. I recommend the book.

When the storm finally hits (and it will), those of you who supported the Obama administration will be affected as well. It won't just be us gun owners or Flat-Taxers, or Pro-Lifers that get hit. You'll be right there next to us.

You all thought the Conservatives were nut cases. You know, all of us who believe in God, small government, the Second Amendment, etc. You thought you could just go back to sleep after the election was over. In your world, America will continue as before. You'll still have the same rights, the same nice house, the same big screen television. After all, your high school football team won and the other team lost - go team! Even if you have bothered to look up from the daily grind since Nov 4th, you dismissed everything that has occurred as "politics as usual--the same old stuff".

In the end, it'll all be OK won't it? Not this time.

There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are ready to fight to shut down the government's grab of personal freedom, it's blatant abuse of the constitution, and it's attempt to replace the American way of life with socialism. You have to listen carefully to hear them, but they are there. I won't start that fight, but when it goes down I will join it.

As for you, why, you'll be shocked because you didn't see it coming. And eventually you'll be saddened when you see that we have truly lost the way of life with which you grew up. You'll be saddened that your children and grandchildren live in a socialist, government-controlled gulag where their every movement from cradle to grave is tracked by the government. But most of all, you'll be saddened by the death of friends and relatives who are brave enough to fight and die for something they believe in.

You know, McCain wasn't much of a candidate. I'll give you that. He was the lesser of two evils for most of us. I don't blame you for not voting for him since, at the time, you didn't know what we all know now. But at least John McCain was an American. He was a supporter of the American way of life and he understood that you can't negotiate with terrorists. He understood and appreciated the sacrifice made by my father and other members of the Greatest Generation.

Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming. They are forming out of anger and out of desperation at the thought of losing America. They're not militia groups, terrorists as the Department of Homeland security would have you believe; they are Americans, loyal to the constitution. They are mothers and fathers and grandparents. They belong to groups like the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, the Peaceful Resistance, the Constitution Party, the Young Conservatives, the 9/12 Project, and Grassfire. Right now they are fragmented, each focused on their own cause. But sometime in the next two years, our government is going to do something really stupid and these groups will come together. Watch for it, wait for it--get ready. It will happen.

When that event happens, whatever "it" is, our great country is going to plunge into chaos for a while. I pray to God that we make it through that time and emerge a stronger, smarter country.

Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson

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Now I'm certain that the reaction from Obama supporters will be one of shock and dismay at the lunacy of the right. After all, you've been told for months that Obama has been wonderful so far. He's made the biggest banks even bigger, turned two of the big 3 auto companies into government make-work industries, worked to control salaries of TARP recipients he doesn't like, and has unabashedly apologized for American foreign policy to our friends and enemies. Soon he will reduce news to all state-run, and even your Internet will cease to provide you access to anything the government finds to be unfit for public consumption. How can any of that be bad, especially while he prints trillions of dollars of new money and promises trillions more in new entitlement programs for the folks who voted for him in the form of a 21st century reparations and redistribution agenda?

I do agree with this commander that some very dark times are coming. They are unavoidable now. Hundreds of trillions in unfunded obligations and derivatives just can't be erased. This nation's complete failure to recognize the "fundamental transformation" Obama spoke of 5 days before the election last year has sealed our fate. This nation faces too many real problems that this radical Obama government is actively working to make even worse to exploit for "their" definition of change. The gravy train is about to end and America is about to learn some hard lessons in the consequences of ignorance and the abandonment of our founding principles.

I hope everyone is preparing.
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Re: Someone speaking for the Mob
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 06:17:01 PM »

The initial letter posted above came to me by email. A rather long thread has ensued from a list that includes respectable business leaders, parents, and both politically active and inactive people, including leaders in local and state politics. This just arrived:

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After reading Jerry's e-mail below, I like you, pray that war-like violence within our country will never happen, but when I went to the gun show this past weekend and saw the tons of people buying guns and ammunition, I was shocked.  Not only was the convention center building at the fairgrounds filled with wall to wall people, there was a huge line of people along the building waiting to get in.

I talked to several of these individuals as they bought my books and they weren't what you would call "red necks."  They appeared for the most part, to be blue collar common citizens, preparing for an anticipated internal war.  It was really scary.  There were all kinds of weapons including surplus military vehicles for sale.  The people weren't merely window shopping, they were purchasing and loading their purchases in pick-up trucks and in the trunks of cars.

I don't think the leaders of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party are cognizant of what is happening.  I would recommend that they attend these gun shows and see the actual mood of the country. (I'm sure the FBI, Secret Service and the CIA are watching).  Our political leaders are so busy with politics as usual and elections, that they are completely oblivious to the fact that many Americans are arming themselves for a potential war.  God help us all.  You had to be there to see it.  I know earlier this year there was a run on gun shops and they sold out of their supply of ammunition.  To supplement their supply - citizens are going to gun shows.

Let me just add that many of these Americans are not arming themselves to take or steal from others, but to defend themselves from what many, myself included, believe is a Marxist regime acting against the people who've worked for what they have, and with a plan to take it and redistribute it to its supporters and allies. To most, if not all of these Americans, regardless of what you call it, this is robbery. And when robbed, people do have a right to defend themselves, and what belongs to them.

For many on the left, the real reason for the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution would have been a better lesson learned in the classroom, but if the left is determined to take what they won't earn, the genius of that amendment may, unfortunately, become very clear sooner or later.
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Re: Someone speaking for the Mob
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 06:30:06 PM »

I DID NOT WRITE THIS, ALTHOUGH I EXPECT MANY, MANY AMERICANS, MYSELF INCLUDED, AGREE WITH MOST OR ALL OF IT.

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Read carefully!

Be prepared!!!

From Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson

We lived in California during the winters of 2007 and 2008. We became addicted to Fox News and watched O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes every night. When we got back home, we upgraded our cable to get Fox. I watched the Presidential campaign very closely. Initially because I thought the Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton and then in astonishment when they chose an even more hard-left candidate. All of last year I told everyone I could that Obama was not a Democrat, he was a Marxist. He is far to the left of any European leader and even our far left party, the NDP.

I read Saul Alinsky when I was in University. I studied him and his writing carefully. When Bill Ayers and his idiot wife were bombing and killing people at random in the Weather Underground. Weather Underground and the Black Panthers were closely allied. I read David Horowitz's account of changing from a Marxist to a conservative after seeing that the government was afraid to prosecute members of the Panthers for murdering his personal assistant. He suddenly understood the evil that Marxism really was.

After the student radicals failed in creating a Marxist revolution in the United States by violent means, they embraced Alinsky. You would be wise to read "Rules for Radicals" because it outlines how Hillary and Obama planned to get into power, and what they intended to do when they got it.

Socialism is not the correct descriptor for what Obama and the Democrats are doing. They are going to be much more far reaching than anything Sweden has ever been able to do. Obama is following Alinsky's plans, those set out in "Rules for Radicals" and his other writing. The Democrats are attempting to create one party rule in the U.S. And in achieving that, will create crisis after crisis by their own actions and use those crisis to nationalize the means of production in the U.S. You are in the middle of a communist revolution and few in the U.S. Can actually see it for what it truly is.

The U.S. Is now on the path of financial destruction. The Constitution has been shredded and individual human rights are being trampled. In less than 8 months, Obama has used a recession to take over the two largest industries in the U.S. He will debase the Dollar and is on the road to creating an incredible energy shortage that will allow him and Congress to take over the energy industry.

But by and large I think that by the 2010 elections, the Democrats will have gerrymandered electoral districts to the point that it will be impossible for them to lose control of both houses of Congress. The incredible increase in the money supply is going to create Zimbabwe and Venezuela style inflation, and with it, controls on the currency and the amount of money that can be taken out of the country.

I love America, I cannot believe how the ignorance of the American public has created a situation whereby they are going to lose their Republic and slip into an age of repression and tyranny.

I may be nuts, but so far I have been 100% in my predictions of what Obama was going to do, because I merely had to look at "Rules for Radicals" to see what was coming next.

I read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense" and in it re-read Thomas Paines pamphlet with the same name. I recommend the book.

When the storm finally hits (and it will), those of you who supported the Obama administration will be affected as well. It won't just be us gun owners or Flat-Taxers, or Pro-Lifers that get hit. You'll be right there next to us.

You all thought the Conservatives were nut cases. You know, all of us who believe in God, small government, the Second Amendment, etc. You thought you could just go back to sleep after the election was over. In your world, America will continue as before. You'll still have the same rights, the same nice house, the same big screen television. After all, your high school football team won and the other team lost - go team! Even if you have bothered to look up from the daily grind since Nov 4th, you dismissed everything that has occurred as "politics as usual--the same old stuff".

In the end, it'll all be OK won't it? Not this time.

There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are ready to fight to shut down the government's grab of personal freedom, it's blatant abuse of the constitution, and it's attempt to replace the American way of life with socialism. You have to listen carefully to hear them, but they are there. I won't start that fight, but when it goes down I will join it.

As for you, why, you'll be shocked because you didn't see it coming. And eventually you'll be saddened when you see that we have truly lost the way of life with which you grew up. You'll be saddened that your children and grandchildren live in a socialist, government-controlled gulag where their every movement from cradle to grave is tracked by the government. But most of all, you'll be saddened by the death of friends and relatives who are brave enough to fight and die for something they believe in.

You know, McCain wasn't much of a candidate. I'll give you that. He was the lesser of two evils for most of us. I don't blame you for not voting for him since, at the time, you didn't know what we all know now. But at least John McCain was an American. He was a supporter of the American way of life and he understood that you can't negotiate with terrorists. He understood and appreciated the sacrifice made by my father and other members of the Greatest Generation.

Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming. They are forming out of anger and out of desperation at the thought of losing America. They're not militia groups, terrorists as the Department of Homeland security would have you believe; they are Americans, loyal to the constitution. They are mothers and fathers and grandparents. They belong to groups like the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, the Peaceful Resistance, the Constitution Party, the Young Conservatives, the 9/12 Project, and Grassfire. Right now they are fragmented, each focused on their own cause. But sometime in the next two years, our government is going to do something really stupid and these groups will come together. Watch for it, wait for it--get ready. It will happen.

When that event happens, whatever "it" is, our great country is going to plunge into chaos for a while. I pray to God that we make it through that time and emerge a stronger, smarter country.

Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson

Help Fight Corruption in Congress -- Vote Against ALL Incumbents!

Now I'm certain that the reaction from Obama supporters will be one of shock and dismay at the lunacy of the right. After all, you've been told for months that Obama has been wonderful so far. He's made the biggest banks even bigger, turned two of the big 3 auto companies into government make-work industries, worked to control salaries of TARP recipients he doesn't like, and has unabashedly apologized for American foreign policy to our friends and enemies. Soon he will reduce news to all state-run, and even your Internet will cease to provide you access to anything the government finds to be unfit for public consumption. How can any of that be bad, especially while he prints trillions of dollars of new money and promises trillions more in new entitlement programs for the folks who voted for him in the form of a 21st century reparations and redistribution agenda?

I do agree with this commander that some very dark times are coming. They are unavoidable now. Hundreds of trillions in unfunded obligations and derivatives just can't be erased. This nation's complete failure to recognize the "fundamental transformation" Obama spoke of 5 days before the election last year has sealed our fate. This nation faces too many real problems that this radical Obama government is actively working to make even worse to exploit for "their" definition of change. The gravy train is about to end and America is about to learn some hard lessons in the consequences of ignorance and the abandonment of our founding principles.

I hope everyone is preparing.

I'm sure most of the mainstream right would be just as shocked as any dem -- or any sane person for that matter -- by wingnut commander's survivalist, "the reds are coming" paranoia. You may want to check with your party of choice before playing this piece of hyperbole as representative of the right in general. Gosh I hope you do this for fun and to stimulate conversation. Otherwise, I feel sorry for you cowering down there in your cave with your rations.....

Wolverines!!

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Re: Someone speaking for the Mob
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 01:07:26 AM »

>>>Wolverines!!<<<

Actually, a pretty darn good movie of its genre.   And a very high star power cast, very good quality on the equipment/weapon simulation.

One of my pet peeves is the refrain "It can't happen here."

When the Nazis took over Germany, it had the highest average education level among its citizens in the world compared to other major countries.   The Bolsheviks never overthrew the Tsar, they were a minority in a group that undertook the revolution and then highjacked it.   It just came to public light that the Labor Party Leadership in England was encouraging third world emigration into the UK over the last decade for its own political advantage.  (as stated by a former high muckety muck in the Labor Party). 

I find that the mantra of "it can't happen here." goes into local politics and into family situations as well.  A year or two ago I read a poll of international business leaders that put the US way down the list of corrupt and difficult countries of places to do business.  (still better than the UK, though, and I was surprised that the UK had such a low ranking). 

Believing that it actually "could happen here" and being alert to the posibility is the best defense against it actually happening here.
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