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Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« on: November 01, 2009, 12:18:44 PM »

New York Congressional race the Republican drops out so conservative candidate can win in a very red state. No surprise here. Virginian Governor race the Republican has double digit lead. N.J. Governor race neck and neck. With the Congressional seat a red state since the 1800's there is no big surprise here. Virginia red leaning not a huge surprise. N.J. is the bell weather state. Obama campaigned here and it is a more liberal state. Regardless do these elections say anything about Obama?
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 01:55:18 PM »

New York Congressional race the Republican drops out so conservative candidate can win in a very red state. No surprise here. Virginian Governor race the Republican has double digit lead. N.J. Governor race neck and neck. With the Congressional seat a red state since the 1800's there is no big surprise here. Virginia red leaning not a huge surprise. N.J. is the bell weather state. Obama campaigned here and it is a more liberal state. Regardless do these elections say anything about Obama?

I thought Virginia has has a dem as governor since 1997?
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 01:06:36 AM »

New York is not a "Red State", let alone a "very red state".   You are way off base here, BBDad.  I do not think that it has voted Republican since Reagan was reelected.


New York Congressional race the Republican drops out so conservative candidate can win in a very red state. No surprise here. Virginian Governor race the Republican has double digit lead. N.J. Governor race neck and neck. With the Congressional seat a red state since the 1800's there is no big surprise here. Virginia red leaning not a huge surprise. N.J. is the bell weather state. Obama campaigned here and it is a more liberal state. Regardless do these elections say anything about Obama?
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 09:06:14 AM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 09:59:23 PM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D

And there are still a few Republicans elected in California, as well
I thought that a Democrat had held that NY 23 seat, though, before this election.
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 12:53:25 PM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D

And there are still a few Republicans elected in California, as well
I thought that a Democrat had held that NY 23 seat, though, before this election.

Looks like it was Rep for the past 16 years or so.
Can you say:
"Screw up a train wreck"

I truly get fiscal conservatism, but it is the religious right's social agenda that scares me. Looks like Beck and Limbaugh didn't help the reps here....... :drinks:
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 01:20:25 PM »

Regardless do these elections say anything about Obama?

There are 80 Democrat House members up for reelection next year and 20 Democrat Senate members in states that voted McCain in 2008. What do you think they're thinking this morning after:

  • Nearly 20-point sweep in Virginia for Governor, Lt. Governor, Attorney General and a myriad of lower-level positions. People of Virginia have clearly had enough of Obamanomics, Hope and Change.
  • John Corzine loses by 5% in New Jersey after outspending the Republican 5-1 and with multiple campaign appearances by Obama. And New Jersey is one of the most corrupt Democrat pro-union states in the nation. Apparently the people of New Jersey have had it with Obamanomics, Democrat corruption, and Democrat tax and spend.
  • NY-23. Liberal ACORN-endorsed, socialist Working Family Party-endorsed Republican, still on ballot, drops out and endorses the Democrat. With just weeks to rally support, the conservative Doug Hoffman, with little money, reluctant Republican support, and running as a 3rd party candidate, both takes out the liberal Republican and comes within a few percentage points of defeating the Republican-candidate-endorsed Democrat. And Hoffman's vote with the Republican's vote combined would have won the race. A year from now a conservative Republican will take back the seat by a strong majority.
  • Pennsylvania elects a Republican-endorsed candidate to the Supreme Court shifting it 4-3 to the right.
  • Gay Marriage defeated in Maine.

While the MSM is desperately spinning last night the best they can into a meaningless vote on Obama policies and downplaying the bloodletting of Democrats, people know what happened, and the MSM really does too. Democrats in the Pelosi House and Reid Senate awakened on a different planet this morning. Everything has changed, and not for the better if you're a supporter of Socialism.

Or you can believe the MSM. Last night was good, but not great, for Republicans.
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 01:46:06 PM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D

And there are still a few Republicans elected in California, as well
I thought that a Democrat had held that NY 23 seat, though, before this election.

Looks like it was Rep for the past 16 years or so.
Can you say:
"Screw up a train wreck"

I truly get fiscal conservatism, but it is the religious right's social agenda that scares me. Looks like Beck and Limbaugh didn't help the reps here....... :drinks:

What do you mean by "screw up a train wreck"?
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 01:46:57 PM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D

And there are still a few Republicans elected in California, as well
I thought that a Democrat had held that NY 23 seat, though, before this election.

Looks like it was Rep for the past 16 years or so.
Can you say:
"Screw up a train wreck"

I truly get fiscal conservatism, but it is the religious right's social agenda that scares me. Looks like Beck and Limbaugh didn't help the reps here....... :drinks:

So if you get fiscal conservatism, why are you so far left?
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2009, 01:57:40 PM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D

And there are still a few Republicans elected in California, as well
I thought that a Democrat had held that NY 23 seat, though, before this election.

Looks like it was Rep for the past 16 years or so.
Can you say:
"Screw up a train wreck"

I truly get fiscal conservatism, but it is the religious right's social agenda that scares me. Looks like Beck and Limbaugh didn't help the reps here....... :drinks:

What do you mean by "screw up a train wreck"?

Well, they probably could have elected a rep but had to go all social conservativy on the rep candidate who could win.
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2009, 02:03:03 PM »

EW I know New York is a blue state. That Congressional District though is not. It is one of the safe Republican Districts in that state. The overall state is solidly democratic but just like Doc Hastings seat in Eastern Washington you can have a Republican district in the middle of a Democratic state. We are a Dem state but if you are a Democrat over there in Yakima you have little chance for Congress. Oh I see my mistake. I said state instead of Congressional District. My bad. ;D

And there are still a few Republicans elected in California, as well
I thought that a Democrat had held that NY 23 seat, though, before this election.

Looks like it was Rep for the past 16 years or so.
Can you say:
"Screw up a train wreck"

I truly get fiscal conservatism, but it is the religious right's social agenda that scares me. Looks like Beck and Limbaugh didn't help the reps here....... :drinks:

So if you get fiscal conservatism, why are you so far left?

Well, I guess you would need to define how far left I am and why you think that first.  :drinks:

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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2009, 07:07:20 PM »

>>>There are 80 Democrat House members up for reelection next year and 20 Democrat Senate members in states that voted McCain in 2008. What do you think they're thinking this morning after:<<<<

Probably 20-30 of those Dem Congresscritters are from safe, urban seats and would be re-elected even if caught owning rental villas in the Caribean and hiding the income from the IRS.   I would estimate that perhaps 50 of the Democrat Congressmen feel endangered.

On the Senate side, it might be 6-10, including Harry Reid, that are in trouble of those 20.  And of course Dodd is in real trouble, and he comes from a blue state.    And the guy who lied his way into the Senate from Illinois is going out, isn't he?   He announced that he would not be running again, but you know his word cannot be trusted.   Right now, I am looking at perhaps a pickup of 8 Senate seats this time out for the Republicans.   It will be really interesting to see what the freshmen Senators face in 2014, since so many squeaked into office from Red states.
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Re: Is Tuesdays Election a Referendum on Obama
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 01:08:11 PM »

My prediction is that Republicans pick up 4 Senate seats and 20 House seats in mid term elections.
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