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[Ballguy]

I hadnt seen this here yet so I thought I would post a link http://www.playerdevelopmentleague.org/files/Response%20to%20Jan-22%20PDL%20Resolution%201%20from%20WYS.pdf

Interesting reading.....   

[mg444]

Very interesting reading.  Many unintended consequences will result from grownups inability to get along.  

[2 CENTS]

Interesting,

Washington Youth Soccer strongly believes this is not a good situation for the players and families in SYSA. For the age groups in the Seattle United age groups, the uncertainty of access to the highest level of play will likely cause an exodus of players, increasing their travel time and breaking up teams/ friendships.

I’m wondering if they strongly believe that not allowing access to the highest level of play for numerous associations and dozens of other clubs will cause them harm as well?

[EWSoccer64]

mg444, it sounds like you are arguing against the entire idea behind the PDL, which was the Bobby Howe brainchild.   Restricted axceses to the top level of play was the great cache of the PDL.  And it was the ECFC trump card.

Interesting,

Washington Youth Soccer strongly believes this is not a good situation for the players and families in SYSA. For the age groups in the Seattle United age groups, the uncertainty of access to the highest level of play will likely cause an exodus of players, increasing their travel time and breaking up teams/ friendships.

I’m wondering if they strongly believe that not allowing access to the highest level of play for numerous associations and dozens of other clubs will cause them harm as well?

[EWSoccer64]

My apologies, Mg444, I was morphing both your respnse and that of 2cents.

[vusa92blue]

I am, I guess a little surprised that this entire issue with the Region Level Club proposal and the PDL hinges on Emerald City FC.  Sure there are other tweeks and of course the "we don't trust 'em" comments, but the deal breaker is ECFC.

Trust me, I didn't just fall off of the child labour, third world country, soccer ball truck.  I know that the PDL group will come up with something else after the ECFC thing is solved, and it will be.  They will and why wouldn't they!?  Their livelihood(s) and bank accounts count on it.

[EWSoccer64]

The Spokane situation is really not a fault of bringing thr PDL back into the state.  It is a situation where there was an association out of compliance with state and national rules, where someone in angst about the Shadow Club merger brought this up to the stat in an effort to block the Shadow merger (which was in the best tennants of seamless soccer), and the state responded "Get your association in order, with proper bylaws".  The Spkane Youth Sports Authority, which had been doing a good job in serving the kids of Spokane for many years in many sports, went off in a stupid, unlettered manner which showed their ignorance of the state, national, amd intermational rules.  (In an absolute worst case scenario, the SYS Authority complaint could have the US men's national team banned from going to the world cup in South Africa).  As other threads detail, this is an ongoing situation, which may lead to most or all of Eastern Washington leaving WSYSA.
     No matter what the situation in Spokane turns out to be there willl be no danger of the players not having a place to play this spring or next fall.   Guarantees are already in place.  Everyone knows that, and anyone who brings that is just trying to blow smoke.


ECFC , the other issue pointed out, is an entirely different situation.  Their parent association has decided to adopt what is in essencce Bobby Howe's ADP program. The problem is that Bobby is currently the leader of ECFC and they decided not to participate, perhaps to avoid the scrutiny of the ECFC books.  So ECFC is a dead snake, (using that term deliberately because of the unethical positionas that ECFC/Bobby Howe have taken in the past with the PDL), and just whrithing around despite its head being cut off.      The recent mass exodus of coaching talent show s that the people in the know at ECFC understand the situation. 

[mg444]

Regarding the recent "mass exodus" of coaches, rather than assume that they are giving SU their ringing endorsement by leaving, maybe it is more about being employed?  I admit that I am completetly speculating, but I would guess in the matter of Peter Fewing, the fact that he has a summer camp to run, attended by hundreds of kids in Seattle who are registered with SYSA, he needs to remain on "the good side" of SYSA.  I would guess that had he remained a coach at ECFC, he would not be considered on SU's good side.  I do not blame him at all, nor do I blame any other coach, for leaving for a situation that will probably offer them secure employment for the next year....and according to SU, for many years to come.

As for this whole SU/ECFC debacle, the fact that SYSA has the "right" to do this, doesn't make it "right."  I have yet to come across the masses of disgruntled ECFC parents who are supposedly so in need of this change.  The ones I have met are upset by what is happening, but not upset with their individual team situations and never had been.  Part of SU's argument early on, in their PR campaign to take ECFC down, was that their were many unhappy families.  I just don't see it.

[EWSoccer64]

If it was just Peter Fewing, you might have a point.  Since it is many more, I don't think you have one here. 
And apparently, if you want to find a mass of disgruntled ECFC parents, all you have to do is be part of the 70-90 people involved in the SU committees.  By the substaniated head count, most of those committees were ECFC family members, and we all know what their opinion was! 

Regarding the recent "mass exodus" of coaches, rather than assume that they are giving SU their ringing endorsement by leaving, maybe it is more about being employed?  I admit that I am completetly speculating, but I would guess in the matter of Peter Fewing, the fact that he has a summer camp to run, attended by hundreds of kids in Seattle who are registered with SYSA, he needs to remain on "the good side" of SYSA.  I would guess that had he remained a coach at ECFC, he would not be considered on SU's good side.  I do not blame him at all, nor do I blame any other coach, for leaving for a situation that will probably offer them secure employment for the next year....and according to SU, for many years to come.

As for this whole SU/ECFC debacle, the fact that SYSA has the "right" to do this, doesn't make it "right."  I have yet to come across the masses of disgruntled ECFC parents who are supposedly so in need of this change.  The ones I have met are upset by what is happening, but not upset with their individual team situations and never had been.  Part of SU's argument early on, in their PR campaign to take ECFC down, was that their were many unhappy families.  I just don't see it.

[Soccer Wonk]

I am, I guess a little surprised that this entire issue with the Region Level Club proposal and the PDL hinges on Emerald City FC.  Sure there are other tweeks and of course the "we don't trust 'em" comments, but the deal breaker is ECFC.

If all the members of the boards of the PDL-come-RCL clubs are going to stand together and fall on their swords defending Bobby Howe's grand design for how premier soccer should be run -- as a junta, a little structure that has run afoul of the USSF and is outside the touchlines of legality -- then premier soccer in this state under ANY national affiliation might be dead.

[jjj]

If it was just Peter Fewing, you might have a point.  Since it is many more, I don't think you have one here. 
And apparently, if you want to find a mass of disgruntled ECFC parents, all you have to do is be part of the 70-90 people involved in the SU committees.  By the substaniated head count, most of those committees were ECFC family members, and we all know what their opinion was! 

So have any of these SU committees had meetings yet?  The seattleunited.com website shows no listing of committees just board members.
Any other place indicating there are 70-90 people involved  in committees for Seattle United.  From talking to parents of potential DS's playing and wanting to play for SU there is not enough news coming from SU and this report of 70-90 people already being in committees sounds like too much back room dealing. 

What is going on???

[EWSoccer64]

J,   The 70-90 people were part of the multi-year series of meetings and committees that put together the SU plan.  I do not know but expect that their role in that situation is over.   
  have you tried sending an e-mail to an SU point of contact?   I am most definitely not such, and the one time I spoofed a letter to the PDL from Seattle (Heck, I thought it was funny), all sorts of people got their panties in a bunch.     Good Luck!

If it was just Peter Fewing, you might have a point.  Since it is many more, I don't think you have one here. 
And apparently, if you want to find a mass of disgruntled ECFC parents, all you have to do is be part of the 70-90 people involved in the SU committees.  By the substaniated head count, most of those committees were ECFC family members, and we all know what their opinion was! 

So have any of these SU committees had meetings yet?  The seattleunited.com website shows no listing of committees just board members.
Any other place indicating there are 70-90 people involved  in committees for Seattle United.  From talking to parents of potential DS's playing and wanting to play for SU there is not enough news coming from SU and this report of 70-90 people already being in committees sounds like too much back room dealing. 

What is going on???