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"Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« on: March 15, 2010, 10:02:45 AM »

"Delusion"

Is it the world CP's live in?  Dragon has some funny incidents where delusion plays a minor or major role that he will post later.


Lets hear some of your funny stories of CP's that you know are "taking Delusion to a new level" LOL ;D ;D ;D
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 10:16:31 AM »

Here are a couple of examples to get us started:

*note - Sally and Joe are fictional players... the CP's are not lol



CP taking Delusion:  Sally is U11 and she is one of the only kids to Slide Tackle!  She has more hustle then any other kid on her team.  She runs full steam ahead at the streaking wing and slides at her missing the ball and almost clipping the player.  Delusion taking parent screams; "Great Job Sally! Way to hustle, woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!"

The parents on the sidelines not taking Delusion (more likely taking the drug called: Reality) groan as the player races into the 18 yd box and scores.  "That Sally slides all over the field and never tackles one darn ball, but manages to clip players all the time and draw a foul most of the time".



and then theres Joe;


Joe is U16 and has been playing at the top levels for years.  His CP is hooked on Delusion and loves to watch his star defender play.  This day the ball is rolling towards the 18 yd box and the goalie trys to call Joe off.  The CP see's that Joe will have none of that and runs up to Boot the ball with all his might!!! The ball goes well past the 50 and out of bounds.  CP screams; "Great job Joe!  WOW what a Kick!!!!!"


The other parents see a missed chance to control the ball and get it to the open wings. The other parents see a goalie who could of maintained possession of the ball for their team. The other parents now watch as the Other team get a throw in and gain possession for themselves.  The parents "taking reality" see a poor defender that never learns to control the ball but just kicks it with all his might every single time.




These are just a couple of examples of Joe and Sally and their CP's...  I am sure you all have a Ton more ;)
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2010, 10:51:09 AM »

Learned this while sitting anonymously among the opposing team parents one day a few years ago.

Turns out that, unbeknownst to us, DDs team practiced 5 times a week, were required to have paid one-on-one training every week on top of the practices and the kids were miserable. 

Delusion - teams that kick your butt have crazy CPs, rich CPs and unhappy kids.
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2010, 11:35:30 AM »

We have all seen the back line get under enough pressure and have no option but to clear the ball out of the area with a thundering kick, unlike D's scenario where keeper has a play. Now take that same attack coming at you but it is intercepted at mid-field with limited pressure and some open space, and what happens it is sent back down field with another big kick. Shouldn't this be the time to control? Mind you it is not into a space or towards anyone, and sometimes the kid is pointing one direction and the ball goes the other. Usually it dribbles into the box to be picked up and punted back at you. A rousing cheer of nice kick and ooohhhhs and awwws come from some of the CPs, UUUHHhh people that is called BOOT BALL

Just to clarify a little I'm not talking about U-11 add 3 or 4 years, they should no better!
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 02:24:22 PM by ImaginThat »
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 12:06:03 PM »

it is not "delusional" for a parent to praise and encourage their kids, that's just being a parent who loves their child.  it is the job of the coach to teach Joe to control the ball and not just boot it and it's the coach's job to teach Sally how to defend and not just slide.  Of course the other parents who have children who always play perfect and are the best player on the team (all of them are the best) can therefore critisize the other kids of lesser ability and are clearly living in reality. 
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2010, 01:11:23 PM »

Sure is funny how many PM's D is getting about examples of this "drug" LOL

Wish they would post some of their tales... (i will edit and post some later).


Clearly, all parents sniff the tube of Delusion, others clearly brush their teeth with it :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 10:52:14 AM »

I'm not sure if the parents are deluded about their child or if they just don't understand soccer and how it's played.

Some small kids do boot the ball without benefit.  Other kids try and dribble when they should be passing or pass when they should be dribbling.  Kids are learning all the time and so are their parents.  Can we give them a little slack?
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 12:43:46 PM »

Dragon...I once started to write a TONGUE-IN-CHEEK list called "What every U-11 select soccer coach wishes parents knew." I've kept it under wraps until now, but since most of it fits in the 'delusional' category, I'll unveil it. And I welcome your fearless readers to add to the list!

Anyways, here's what every U-11 select soccer coach wishes parents knew and understood:
-- Just because your DS or DD scored 65 goals in U-10 rec soccer doesn't mean they are going to be a forward in select soccer, because every other kid that makes the team also scored 65 goals in U-10 rec soccer.
-- Most U-11 select teams don't play a 0-0-8 system, prefering instead to play systems such as 3-3-2, 3-2-3, 4-3-1, 3-4-1, or 2-4-2, which means that most likely there will at most only be two or three forwards in the lineup. That means that the remaining five or six or seven field players (all of whom are viewed by their parents as the second coming of Manchester United savior Wayne Rooney) will have the distasteful and unglamorous duty of playing in the midfield and defensive lines, and dare I suggest it -- in goal.
-- Unlike rec soccer, select soccer teams don't usually put their slowest players in the back three or the back four. In fact, really good select soccer teams usually don't have really slow players.
-- Select soccer teams like to put very fast, aggressive players in defensive positions, because the forwards they will be facing are very fast, aggressive players. This, of course, runs contrary to the thinking of the average rec parent/coach, who figures they will put their slowest players in the back because they can't do anything else.
-- Unlike U-10 rec soccer, forwards in select soccer aren't usually able to dribble from one end of the field to the other and score every time they touch the ball. And if they CAN do that in select soccer, they need to playing up a year, or two, or maybe trying out for the National team.
-- If your DD or DS is on a C team at U-11, you probably will not be beating a rival club's A and B teams. There is a reason DD and DS are on the C team -- it's because DD or DS is not good enough to make the A or B team.
-- If you are on a C team at U-11, you will be spending most ALL of your time on technique and skill. Mainly because that's what all U-11 players should be doing, and secondly, because that's also another reason DD or DS is on the C team -- they need to get a lot better!
-- Just because your trainer has an English accent doesn't mean your DD or DS is going to get a better soccer education, mainly because English as the English speak it in some parts of England is a foreign language. Even those of us who have been around our English coaching colleagues for years can't understand someone from Bolton and other parts of Northern England. Heck, even natives of England can't understand people from Bolton (I personally am convinced that Boltonites are descendants of a lost Celtic tribe; why else would the professional club there be called Wanderers?). And an interpreter is an absolute must when my colleagues from Liverpool and Manchester try to communicate with each other. That being said, there are certain benefits to having English trainers and coaches. Otherwise, how would the average Beatles' fan in the U.S. -- like me -- know that Abbey Road is NOT in Liverpool, but is actually in London. (Speaking of the Beatles, I once overheard one of my English coaching colleagues say "You do realize that the original Strawberry Fields are not in Marysville!!!!!!") :drinks:
« Last Edit: March 16, 2010, 01:35:31 PM by skagitcoach »
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 01:01:45 PM »

Sure is funny how many PM's D is getting about examples of this "drug" LOL

Wish they would post some of their tales... (i will edit and post some later).


Clearly, all parents sniff the tube of Delusion, others clearly brush their teeth with it :laugh: :laugh:


I think they've been handing out free samples by the barrel....  :o ;)

well done skagitcoach, +1
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 04:04:24 PM »

My favorite comments (as a ref) when parents are all on Delusion:

We lost because--
"The ref gave the game away to the other team."
"The player was offside by a mile! That should never have been a goal."
"They got a PK on a questionable foul."
"The grass was slippery and the field sloped."
"The wind was blowing and that's why we didnt' score."
"All our best players are injured." A varation of that--"We lost because our ODP players are gone."

Of course, when I was a parent, all of these were TRUE and I was absolutely not on Delusion or the street version Denial--in my generation we didn't do any of that kind of stuff! I had a perfect understanding of the game and was always on my Reality Pills. Wow, things sure have changed since my day  :P
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 06:39:05 PM »

I agree with Shelby. Delusions are for other folks.
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 09:41:16 AM »

LOL, good job peeps. Funny stuff ;D
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 10:33:54 AM »

This disease is prevalent throughout society. It is not limited to soccer. I still remember the conversation with the Dad who was explaining to me why his son was so great. Gonzaga was recruiting him so he should be the focus of the offense. I did not have the heart to tell him Gonzaga was not in the market for 5'7" slow, can't jump, backup guards from an average high school team.
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 11:26:35 AM »

I think it is WYS and other Assoc and Clubs that are drinking the "Delusion"
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Re: "Delusion" ~ the Designer Drug of choice for all CP's?
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 01:42:29 PM »

There was an interesting blurb on NPR the other day about how only people outside the investment community could see the crash coming.   This has applications to all sorts of things from soccer to global warming.
 
I see it in engineering where the tendency is to believe your own propaganda.   It is very hard to do a rational evaluation if you are invested in the project.   Example look at the Airbus 380 the other "large aircraft manufacture’s " aircraft where management was clueless until the problems bit them in the butt.

My soccer delusion was thinking a coach would be fair minded and if only my DD worked harder she would get reworded.    DD worked hard, went to extra practices and got knife in the back for her effort.   We learned from that and won’t be drinking that cool aid again.
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