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Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« on: May 07, 2010, 01:59:27 AM »

 Breaking: Obama Administration Removed Faisal Shahzad From Terror Surveillance List Before Attackby Jim Hoft
More hope and change…

Faisal Shahzad was removed from the national terrorist surveillance list before the Times Square attack.


(CBS News)

Confessed terrorist Faisal Shahzad was removed from the Department of Homeland Security travel lookout list sometime after Barack Obama came into office.

CBS reported:

Sources tell CBS News that would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad appeared on a Department of Homeland Security travel lookout list – Traveler Enforcement Compliance System (TECS) – between 1999 and 2008 because he brought approximately $80,000 cash or cash instruments into the United States.

The New York Times reported that the person who bought Faisal’s apartment back in 2004 was interviewed by federal investigators.

George LaMonica, a 35-year-old computer consultant, said he bought his two-bedroom condominium in Norwalk, Conn., from Mr. Shahzad for $261,000 in May 2004. A few weeks after he moved in, Mr. LaMonica said, investigators from the national Joint Terrorism Task Force [JTTF] interviewed him, asking for details of the transaction and for information about Mr. Shahzad. It struck Mr. LaMonica as unusual, but he said detectives told him they were simply “checking everything out.”


The Strata Sphere is all over this story.

Barack Obama began shutting down Bush-era terrorist investigations last year including the investigation of Faisal Shahzad.

We all know what happened next.

Last week Faisal almost blew a hole in the middle of Times Square.

The only thing that saved the people of New York was Faisal’s incompetence.

UPDATE: Faisal Shahzad had contacts with several other terrorist leaders including the radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki, the Taliban Chief, and the Mumbai Massacre mastermind.

ABC reported:

Shahzad also had a web of jihadist contacts that included big names tied to terror attacks in the U.S. and abroad, including the figure who has emerged as a central figure in many recent domestic terror attempts – radical American-born Muslim cleric Anwar Awlaki.

Besides Awlaki, sources say Shahzad was also linked to a key figure in the Pakistani Taliban, its Emir Beitullah Mehsud, who was killed in a drone missile strike in 2009. The Mehsuds had been family friends of Shahzad, who is the son of a former high-ranking Pakistani military officer.
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 08:03:54 AM »

Sooo who is worse.  Obama for almost getting something blown up or Bush for actually getting something blown up?
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 01:23:53 PM »

Sooo who is worse.  Obama for almost getting something blown up or Bush for actually getting something blown up?

uhhhhhhh   .  . . .     Bush
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2010, 08:45:04 PM »

So, lets see.  Obama stopping investigating a know terrorist who then bungles an attempt to blow up Time Square and Bush is the failure--things that make you go hmmmmm :drinks:
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2010, 12:48:29 AM »

So, lets see.  Obama stopping investigating a know terrorist who then bungles an attempt to blow up Time Square and Bush is the failure--things that make you go hmmmmm :drinks:
Some people will continue to blame Bush for everything for the next 50 years.   :o ;D
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 02:31:43 AM »

President Bush's Adopt a Detainee Program

Dear Liberal:

Thank you for your recent whiney letter criticizing the treatment of the Taliban and El Quieda detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

As part of the Administration's Liberal Re-training Program, you'll be pleased to learn that the Administration has decided to place one detainee under your exclusive care. Your detainee is scheduled to be delivered to your personal residence on Monday. The detainee is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you strongly recommended in your letter of admonishment. It will be necessary that you hire your own caretakers. We will also conduct weekly inspections, of course, to assure that your detainee is actually being cared for in the manner you personally prescribed.

His meal requirements are simple, but we strongly suggest using menus that do not require utensils. While he does bite, the rabies test were negative, although he does have a bad case of body lice that we haven't completely remedied.

Although he is sociopathic and very psychotic, we do welcome your promised efforts to overcome that "attitudinal problem" with your promised counseling and home schooling.

He's extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or light bulb. We do not suggest that you ask him to demonstrate these proficiencies at your next bridge party. He also has the ability to make a variety of lethal bombs from common household products, so you may wish to keep those items locked up, notwithstanding that it may conflict with your moral values or disrupt your maid's daily routine.

Please heed the large orange notice attached to your detainee's cage. "Does not play well with others".

Your detainee generally bathes quarterly, with the change of seasons, assuming that it rains, and washes his clothes simultaneously. That should help with your water bill.

You take good care of our detainee now.

George Dubia' B.
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 11:16:37 AM »

So, lets see.  Obama stopping investigating a know terrorist who then bungles an attempt to blow up Time Square and Bush is the failure--things that make you go hmmmmm :drinks:
Some people will continue to blame Bush for everything for the next 50 years.   :o ;D

The real problem we are facing are those folks from both sides of the aisle who can't find one bit of fault or cast one bit of blame on their respective party's candidate. If bush isn't to blame for any of the problems we face today, you would be a good candidate for Fox Snooze. If he is to be blamed for all the problems we face today - MSNBC.

Mission Accomplished Browney! (to mix a few more ironic moments)  :drinks:
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2010, 02:37:54 PM »

So, lets see.  Obama stopping investigating a know terrorist who then bungles an attempt to blow up Time Square and Bush is the failure--things that make you go hmmmmm :drinks:
Some people will continue to blame Bush for everything for the next 50 years.   :o ;D

The real problem we are facing are those folks from both sides of the aisle who can't find one bit of fault or cast one bit of blame on their respective party's candidate. If bush isn't to blame for any of the problems we face today, you would be a good candidate for Fox Snooze. If he is to be blamed for all the problems we face today - MSNBC.

Mission Accomplished Browney! (to mix a few more ironic moments)  :drinks:

Yup.  That was the point of what I said.  It ain't Bush's faul, it ain't Obama's fault.  There are a myriad of reasons why other people don't like us, it certainly can't be blamed on one or two people. 

As an aside, I love arguing.  The one thing I will not argue about is politics.  The discussion never goes anywhere and everyone blames everyone else.  I was watching a baseball game on MLB Extra Innings that was being played in California and they had a campaign ad.  It ended with the announcer saying (along with giant block letters on the screen) "So and So:  More liberal than he says".  Replace the liberal with conservative and it still remains outright propaganda, either way you want to look at it.
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2010, 11:21:41 AM »

So, lets see.  Obama stopping investigating a know terrorist who then bungles an attempt to blow up Time Square and Bush is the failure--things that make you go hmmmmm :drinks:
Some people will continue to blame Bush for everything for the next 50 years.   :o ;D

The real problem we are facing are those folks from both sides of the aisle who can't find one bit of fault or cast one bit of blame on their respective party's candidate. If bush isn't to blame for any of the problems we face today, you would be a good candidate for Fox Snooze. If he is to be blamed for all the problems we face today - MSNBC.

Mission Accomplished Browney! (to mix a few more ironic moments)  :drinks:

Yup.  That was the point of what I said.  It ain't Bush's faul, it ain't Obama's fault.  There are a myriad of reasons why other people don't like us, it certainly can't be blamed on one or two people. 

As an aside, I love arguing.  The one thing I will not argue about is politics.  The discussion never goes anywhere and everyone blames everyone else.  I was watching a baseball game on MLB Extra Innings that was being played in California and they had a campaign ad.  It ended with the announcer saying (along with giant block letters on the screen) "So and So:  More liberal than he says".  Replace the liberal with conservative and it still remains outright propaganda, either way you want to look at it.



good point, senor

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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2010, 12:09:13 PM »

To fight terrorism, we must first fight ignorance so we can actually start making productive progress as opposed to playing the blaming game.

As much as folks want to continue to blame Bush for everything, you can take this issue back a few years into the Clinton Administration. See what I mean, we can continue to blame, but unless it is going to result into productive action than it becomes a moot point.

What's our true call to action here? Because I am still trying to figure it out.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2010, 02:12:22 PM »

To fight terrorism, we must first fight ignorance so we can actually start making productive progress as opposed to playing the blaming game.

As much as folks want to continue to blame Bush for everything, you can take this issue back a few years into the Clinton Administration. See what I mean, we can continue to blame, but unless it is going to result into productive action than it becomes a moot point.

What's our true call to action here? Because I am still trying to figure it out.


Yews   . . . need to extend the blame back to Clinton.   Of course, then someone will note why some of the cause really came from Reagan and Bush 41,  and others might point out issues with Jimmy Carter   . . .  keep this up and we  might be able to link Bin Laden's actions back to something done by the first president named George (Washington) !    I guess that's the point you're making, yes?

We need to deal with here and now.
The history is VERY useful to provide context and understanding.   While it can be used to assign blame, that's less productive at this stage.
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 10:45:16 AM »

To fight terrorism, we must first fight ignorance so we can actually start making productive progress as opposed to playing the blaming game.

As much as folks want to continue to blame Bush for everything, you can take this issue back a few years into the Clinton Administration. See what I mean, we can continue to blame, but unless it is going to result into productive action than it becomes a moot point.

What's our true call to action here? Because I am still trying to figure it out.


Yews   . . . need to extend the blame back to Clinton.   Of course, then someone will note why some of the cause really came from Reagan and Bush 41,  and others might point out issues with Jimmy Carter   . . .  keep this up and we  might be able to link Bin Laden's actions back to something done by the first president named George (Washington) !    I guess that's the point you're making, yes?

We need to deal with here and now.
The history is VERY useful to provide context and understanding.   While it can be used to assign blame, that's less productive at this stage.


I'm liking the whole context thing
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Re: Obama Admin Terrorism Policy
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 11:27:51 AM »

So, lets see.  Obama stopping investigating a know terrorist who then bungles an attempt to blow up Time Square and Bush is the failure--things that make you go hmmmmm :drinks:
Some people will continue to blame Bush for everything for the next 50 years.   :o ;D

The real problem we are facing are those folks from both sides of the aisle who can't find one bit of fault or cast one bit of blame on their respective party's candidate. If bush isn't to blame for any of the problems we face today, you would be a good candidate for Fox Snooze. If he is to be blamed for all the problems we face today - MSNBC.

Mission Accomplished Browney! (to mix a few more ironic moments)  :drinks:

Yup.  That was the point of what I said.  It ain't Bush's faul, it ain't Obama's fault.  There are a myriad of reasons why other people don't like us, it certainly can't be blamed on one or two people. 

As an aside, I love arguing.  The one thing I will not argue about is politics.  The discussion never goes anywhere and everyone blames everyone else.  I was watching a baseball game on MLB Extra Innings that was being played in California and they had a campaign ad.  It ended with the announcer saying (along with giant block letters on the screen) "So and So:  More liberal than he says".  Replace the liberal with conservative and it still remains outright propaganda, either way you want to look at it.

Actually, I was making a different point. Some things are Bush's fault. Some things are Obama's fault. Some things are the fault of particular Senators, committees, congressman etc. It is when you lose the ability to assess and assign responsibility and accountability in a non-biased way that you have fallen onto the MSNBC/Fox lies zone. It is lame to avoid criticizing one's own party officials by coming up with some excuse that everybody is accountable.

Sorry, but there were no weapons of mass destruction and any CEO that committed the money we did in error would have been excoriated and fired with prejudice. Obama's Fox news baiting was ill-advised -- although true enough. etc. etc.

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