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[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

There are a lot of rumors abound in the Spokane area about the SPVJSA which has moved its board meeting back by over a month. The word around town is that Manny Faridnia is deliberately holding up proceedings as he scrambles to keep himself involved and surround himself with people who share his misguided agenda. It appears that change may be on the horizon. The leadership of this organization has been a stumbling block for a few years now and it appears that positive change may be in the not too distant future...

Having recently talked to a few members of Spokane Scotties club there also seems to be potential concern and speculation about the potential conflict of interest with the clubs technical director. Some involved with the club wonder how a technical director with one club can also serve as vice president of a local rival club....

It's no secret that boundary restrictions are a huge issue in the Spokane soccer community. It appears that the Elite DOC is looking at setting up a sister club on the west side of the boundary the logistics of this club and the ramifications it may have are yet to be seen. A few names have been mooted why not just say SSC Elite (West)?

It seems the team formerly known as Spokane Black Widows is back with a new ownership group and a new name. There are also rumors abound that the male equivalent of the Black Widows, The Spokane Spiders have ceased to exist. This could be down to the years of mismanagement and poor results. It will be interesting to see how both of these organizations do in the future...

Feel free to discuss or elaborate on any of the points above.

Remember..... Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

Seely to Shadow? Word around town is that Tim Seely may be negotiating leaving River City SC to take his talented teams to the other side of town. This could be down to the uncertainty with the SPVJSA. The skeptics among us may want to adopt a believe it when we see it approach on this one.

It appears that all is not as rosy with the IEYSA as some would have you believe... It appears that there has been some bad feeling in regards to "shadow select" teams which are really teams originally developed and administrated through Breakers, Storm, Sabers and United. The alleged issue comes from Shadow failing to deliver on promises made to the clubs. While it is viewed as a development pyramid from the outside the people involved feel it is merely a smokescreen to enable Shadow to maintain RCL/PDL status should it be mandated they must have a predetermined number of players.

The alleged issue above seems to have prompted some of the clubs currently registered with IEYSA to "shop around" with the introduction of US Club Soccer into the area in the past few years word on the street is that there could be some changes in association membership. This could potentially bring SYSA or even SPVJSA into the options for United, Sabers, Storm and Breakers. Watch this space.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[Soccer Wonk]

OK, but newbie posters coming out of the gate in this fashion are presumed by many to have an agenda until some of what is said can be independently verified with facts to back it up. Speculation and rumors are often paraded as facts here.

The truth always comes out, but the readers of the forum judge individually what the truth is.

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

Soccer Wonk, I understand your cynicism. Of course with so many agenda's both good and bad within soccer in the state of Washington people are free to accept what is written here or as is the purpose of such a forum, they can question and discuss the topics posted.

Anything posted here on my part is posted with local substantiation. My only agenda is the truth and the development of Spokane soccer. It is the opinion of many that the leadership in Spokane has been corrupt for too long and that if WSYSA is to take this side of the state seriously major changes have to be made. 

[EWDOC]

This is pretty funny stuff, keep it coming....

[EWDOC]

Soccer Wonk, I understand your cynicism. Of course with so many agenda's both good and bad within soccer in the state of Washington people are free to accept what is written here or as is the purpose of such a forum, they can question and discuss the topics posted.

Anything posted here on my part is posted with local substantiation. My only agenda is the truth and the development of Spokane soccer. It is the opinion of many that the leadership in Spokane has been corrupt for too long and that if WSYSA is to take this side of the state seriously major changes have to be made. 

So help us understand how if this is your "only" agenda, that spreading rumors helps the local soccer scene?

[EWDOC]

There are a lot of rumors abound in the Spokane area about the SPVJSA which has moved its board meeting back by over a month. The word around town is that Manny Faridnia is deliberately holding up proceedings as he scrambles to keep himself involved and surround himself with people who share his misguided agenda. It appears that change may be on the horizon. The leadership of this organization has been a stumbling block for a few years now and it appears that positive change may be in the not too distant future... The first part this is clearly speculation which helps no one if you do not know it to be true.

Having recently talked to a few members of Spokane Scotties club there also seems to be potential concern and speculation about the potential conflict of interest with the clubs technical director. Some involved with the club wonder how a technical director with one club can also serve as vice president of a local rival club.... But yet they list the Technical Director on their own website and include his being a VP of the other club in the bio, so it's not a big secret.  Besides, they are in North Spokane, his other club is in Spokane Valley, so not sure how this is a "local rival"

It's no secret that boundary restrictions are a huge issue in the Spokane soccer community. It appears that the Elite DOC is looking at setting up a sister club on the west side of the boundary the logistics of this club and the ramifications it may have are yet to be seen. A few names have been mooted why not just say SSC Elite (West)?  Old news, the club is called the Lions, they claim only US Club affiliation and claim that even without having held a tryout, they will be allowed to participate in the Super division of the PSPL. 

It seems the team formerly known as Spokane Black Widows is back with a new ownership group and a new name. There are also rumors abound that the male equivalent of the Black Widows, The Spokane Spiders have ceased to exist. This could be down to the years of mismanagement and poor results. It will be interesting to see how both of these organizations do in the future...Again, really old news, been discussed on this forum several times...

Seely to Shadow? Word around town is that Tim Seely may be negotiating leaving River City SC to take his talented teams to the other side of town. This could be down to the uncertainty with the SPVJSA. The skeptics among us may want to adopt a believe it when we see it approach on this one.  Considering he only has two real teams, not sure anyone cares and considering his relationship with the Shadow in the past, it would take some doing to make this happen.

It appears that all is not as rosy with the IEYSA as some would have you believe... It appears that there has been some bad feeling in regards to "shadow select" teams which are really teams originally developed and administrated through Breakers, Storm, Sabers and United. The alleged issue comes from Shadow failing to deliver on promises made to the clubs. While it is viewed as a development pyramid from the outside the people involved feel it is merely a smokescreen to enable Shadow to maintain RCL/PDL status should it be mandated they must have a predetermined number of players. The last part of this is freaking hilarious...a predetermined number of players...All of the clubs agreed to this a few years back and went into this with eyes wide open.  If the clubs are discussing this again, not sure why it's a big deal.  Again, you start off with the "not as rosy" comment which leads me to believe you enjoy stirring the pot and not the truth.

The alleged issue above seems to have prompted some of the clubs currently registered with IEYSA to "shop around" with the introduction of US Club Soccer into the area in the past few years word on the street is that there could be some changes in association membership. This could potentially bring SYSA or even SPVJSA into the options for United, Sabers, Storm and Breakers. Watch this space.  The United teams came to IEYSA because their club went US Club in the first place, I'm with the Breakers so I can ensure you they are not going anywhere.  Let's see if the clubs choose to revisit their unification process or not and respect their choices.  But again, to act like it's a big controversy is only your issue, not anyone else's.  Since I know each and everyone of the club's boards and officers and the fact that each of them sit on the IEYSA board of directors, I think we'll see them discuss this further without being a big deal, but we'll see won't we?

[EWSoccer64]

There are a lot of rumors abound in the Spokane area about the SPVJSA which has moved its board meeting back by over a month. The word around town is that Manny Faridnia is deliberately holding up proceedings as he scrambles to keep himself involved and surround himself with people who share his misguided agenda. It appears that change may be on the horizon. The leadership of this organization has been a stumbling block for a few years now and it appears that positive change may be in the not too distant future... The first part this is clearly speculation which helps no one if you do not know it to be true.
Not sure that Manny was THE REASON that meeting was pushed back a month.  My take on it was that in order to meet their own guidelines, rather than change the wording of announcements previously made, they moved the elections back a month.

Having recently talked to a few members of Spokane Scotties club there also seems to be potential concern and speculation about the potential conflict of interest with the clubs technical director. Some involved with the club wonder how a technical director with one club can also serve as vice president of a local rival club.... But yet they list the Technical Director on their own website and include his being a VP of the other club in the bio, so it's not a big secret.  Besides, they are in North Spokane, his other club is in Spokane Valley, so not sure how this is a "local rival"
Let's see.  With the Spokane Pumas (?) setting up shop in North Spokane and the Foxes expanding beyond an Academy/Tournament system, it would be fair to call them rivals to the Scotties.  And with their links to Valley, the possibility of a conflict of interest NOW appears.Of course, just what are and how firm are the links from the Foxes and the Pumas to which valley clubs?

It's no secret that boundary restrictions are a huge issue in the Spokane soccer community. It appears that the Elite DOC is looking at setting up a sister club on the west side of the boundary the logistics of this club and the ramifications it may have are yet to be seen. A few names have been mooted why not just say SSC Elite (West)?  Old news, the club is called the Lions, they claim only US Club affiliation and claim that even without having held a tryout, they will be allowed to participate in the Super division of the PSPL. 
Doesn't Manny's Elite already have  more than one team from the South Hill area?   At least teams with large numbers of players from that area?   So what is going to happen to those teams adn those players?   Are they going to be with the Lions or stay with the Elite?   That would raise conflict issues if the Spokane Lions were truely seperate from the  Elite family.

It seems the team formerly known as Spokane Black Widows is back with a new ownership group and a new name. There are also rumors abound that the male equivalent of the Black Widows, The Spokane Spiders have ceased to exist. This could be down to the years of mismanagement and poor results. It will be interesting to see how both of these organizations do in the future...Again, really old news, been discussed on this forum several times...

Seely to Shadow? Word around town is that Tim Seely may be negotiating leaving River City SC to take his talented teams to the other side of town. This could be down to the uncertainty with the SPVJSA. The skeptics among us may want to adopt a believe it when we see it approach on this one.  Considering he only has two real teams, not sure anyone cares and considering his relationship with the Shadow in the past, it would take some doing to make this happen.I too found this rumor to be a bit on the wild side....

It appears that all is not as rosy with the IEYSA as some would have you believe... It appears that there has been some bad feeling in regards to "shadow select" teams which are really teams originally developed and administrated through Breakers, Storm, Sabers and United. The alleged issue comes from Shadow failing to deliver on promises made to the clubs. While it is viewed as a development pyramid from the outside the people involved feel it is merely a smokescreen to enable Shadow to maintain RCL/PDL status should it be mandated they must have a predetermined number of players. The last part of this is freaking hilarious...a predetermined number of players...All of the clubs agreed to this a few years back and went into this with eyes wide open.  If the clubs are discussing this again, not sure why it's a big deal.  Again, you start off with the "not as rosy" comment which leads me to believe you enjoy stirring the pot and not the truth.
If there are now clubs that are regretting the merger and who think they are short changed, then that is news, and it will impact how such things are done in the future.

The alleged issue above seems to have prompted some of the clubs currently registered with IEYSA to "shop around" with the introduction of US Club Soccer into the area in the past few years word on the street is that there could be some changes in association membership. This could potentially bring SYSA or even SPVJSA into the options for United, Sabers, Storm and Breakers. Watch this space.  The United teams came to IEYSA because their club went US Club in the first place, I'm with the Breakers so I can ensure you they are not going anywhere.  Let's see if the clubs choose to revisit their unification process or not and respect their choices.  But again, to act like it's a big controversy is only your issue, not anyone else's.  Since I know each and everyone of the club's boards and officers and the fact that each of them sit on the IEYSA board of directors, I think we'll see them discuss this further without being a big deal, but we'll see won't we?

[EWDOC]

There are a lot of rumors abound in the Spokane area about the SPVJSA which has moved its board meeting back by over a month. The word around town is that Manny Faridnia is deliberately holding up proceedings as he scrambles to keep himself involved and surround himself with people who share his misguided agenda. It appears that change may be on the horizon. The leadership of this organization has been a stumbling block for a few years now and it appears that positive change may be in the not too distant future... The first part this is clearly speculation which helps no one if you do not know it to be true.
Not sure that Manny was THE REASON that meeting was pushed back a month.  My take on it was that in order to meet their own guidelines, rather than change the wording of announcements previously made, they moved the elections back a month.  Exactly...

Having recently talked to a few members of Spokane Scotties club there also seems to be potential concern and speculation about the potential conflict of interest with the clubs technical director. Some involved with the club wonder how a technical director with one club can also serve as vice president of a local rival club.... But yet they list the Technical Director on their own website and include his being a VP of the other club in the bio, so it's not a big secret.  Besides, they are in North Spokane, his other club is in Spokane Valley, so not sure how this is a "local rival"
Let's see.  With the Spokane Pumas (?) setting up shop in North Spokane and the Foxes expanding beyond an Academy/Tournament system, it would be fair to call them rivals to the Scotties.  And with their links to Valley, the possibility of a conflict of interest NOW appears.Of course, just what are and how firm are the links from the Foxes and the Pumas to which valley clubs?  I doubt that the Pumas and Foxes will be part of River City going forward, so no conflict if that is the case as most agree will end up happening.

It's no secret that boundary restrictions are a huge issue in the Spokane soccer community. It appears that the Elite DOC is looking at setting up a sister club on the west side of the boundary the logistics of this club and the ramifications it may have are yet to be seen. A few names have been mooted why not just say SSC Elite (West)?  Old news, the club is called the Lions, they claim only US Club affiliation and claim that even without having held a tryout, they will be allowed to participate in the Super division of the PSPL. 
Doesn't Manny's Elite already have  more than one team from the South Hill area?   At least teams with large numbers of players from that area?   So what is going to happen to those teams adn those players?   Are they going to be with the Lions or stay with the Elite?   That would raise conflict issues if the Spokane Lions were truely seperate from the  Elite family.  The Elite are a Spokane Valley club, with kids who may travel to the Valley to practice, train, etc...the Lions are a new club in the Spokane area, with no mention of any affiliation to the Elite.  So one can only speculate on the rest....

It seems the team formerly known as Spokane Black Widows is back with a new ownership group and a new name. There are also rumors abound that the male equivalent of the Black Widows, The Spokane Spiders have ceased to exist. This could be down to the years of mismanagement and poor results. It will be interesting to see how both of these organizations do in the future...Again, really old news, been discussed on this forum several times...

Seely to Shadow? Word around town is that Tim Seely may be negotiating leaving River City SC to take his talented teams to the other side of town. This could be down to the uncertainty with the SPVJSA. The skeptics among us may want to adopt a believe it when we see it approach on this one.  Considering he only has two real teams, not sure anyone cares and considering his relationship with the Shadow in the past, it would take some doing to make this happen.I too found this rumor to be a bit on the wild side....

It appears that all is not as rosy with the IEYSA as some would have you believe... It appears that there has been some bad feeling in regards to "shadow select" teams which are really teams originally developed and administrated through Breakers, Storm, Sabers and United. The alleged issue comes from Shadow failing to deliver on promises made to the clubs. While it is viewed as a development pyramid from the outside the people involved feel it is merely a smokescreen to enable Shadow to maintain RCL/PDL status should it be mandated they must have a predetermined number of players. The last part of this is freaking hilarious...a predetermined number of players...All of the clubs agreed to this a few years back and went into this with eyes wide open.  If the clubs are discussing this again, not sure why it's a big deal.  Again, you start off with the "not as rosy" comment which leads me to believe you enjoy stirring the pot and not the truth.
If there are now clubs that are regretting the merger and who think they are short changed, then that is news, and it will impact how such things are done in the future.  Not news in Spokane though, it was an idea that all the clubs hoped would help them with such things as resources, etc...decisions made long before the RCL.  It is a given that all parties will learn from this if they do choose to go another route, but again, nothing has been discussed to date so again, right now still speculation.

The alleged issue above seems to have prompted some of the clubs currently registered with IEYSA to "shop around" with the introduction of US Club Soccer into the area in the past few years word on the street is that there could be some changes in association membership. This could potentially bring SYSA or even SPVJSA into the options for United, Sabers, Storm and Breakers. Watch this space.  The United teams came to IEYSA because their club went US Club in the first place, I'm with the Breakers so I can ensure you they are not going anywhere.  Let's see if the clubs choose to revisit their unification process or not and respect their choices.  But again, to act like it's a big controversy is only your issue, not anyone else's.  Since I know each and everyone of the club's boards and officers and the fact that each of them sit on the IEYSA board of directors, I think we'll see them discuss this further without being a big deal, but we'll see won't we?

[nwsoccer23]

Who are the Foxes and Pumas of Spokane?

[EWSoccer64]

The Foxes are a mainly girls North Spokane USCS operation that last year was mainly an academy with some tournament teams.  This year they are planning to put together full teams for league play.  The Pumas are sort of an offshoot that is going to put together boys teams.   At least, that is what I hear.

[EWDOC]

The Foxes are a mainly girls North Spokane USCS operation that last year was mainly an academy with some tournament teams.  This year they are planning to put together full teams for league play.  The Pumas are sort of an offshoot that is going to put together boys teams.   At least, that is what I hear.

Pretty close, was a north side team/academy that went to play for River City when they turned U11 a year or so back and now they are going back north to try and forge their own way as a club.  Still unclear how this sits with River City...

[Soccer Wonk]

Another soccer fiefdom forming? Get the shovels, dig a moat.

[EWSoccer64]

Another soccer fiefdom forming? Get the shovels, dig a moat.

This is Spokane.   They gave up on doing a two sided civil war long ago.  Now they try for the artistic, much more complicated Italian style civil wars where there are twice as many sides and three times the alliances as there are participants.   In Spokane, they award style points for the internicine warfare they engage in.   Simply "counting coup" is not even worth mentioning, you try to draw the Mona Lisa on your opponents forehead to get recognition!

 

[Soccer Wonk]

Forget US Youth and US Club! SAY and AYSO should both be moving in. Extra style points to whoever decides to turn their U6 team into a new "Organization Member" and affiliate directly with the USSF.

[EWSoccer64]

Forget US Youth and US Club! SAY and AYSO should both be moving in. Extra style points to whoever decides to turn their U6 team into a new "Organization Member" and affiliate directly with the USSF.

AYSO has already had a presence in Spokane (not sure if they are still there.   You have a quasi-government entity in the Spokane Youth Sports Authority that runs most of the soccer (numbers wise) in Spokane via their wholly owned, USCS operated subsidiary, and a 1,000 plus kids playing in an unaffiliated league in the Valley.   Then you have Northern Idaho right across the border!
Oh, the fun they have up in Spokane!   

[EWDOC]

Forget US Youth and US Club! SAY and AYSO should both be moving in. Extra style points to whoever decides to turn their U6 team into a new "Organization Member" and affiliate directly with the USSF.

AYSO has already had a presence in Spokane (not sure if they are still there.   You have a quasi-government entity in the Spokane Youth Sports Authority that runs most of the soccer (numbers wise) in Spokane via their wholly owned, USCS operated subsidiary, and a 1,000 plus kids playing in an unaffiliated league in the Valley.   Then you have Northern Idaho right across the border!
Oh, the fun they have up in Spokane!   

We do our best   ...haven't heard of AYSO being here since I've been here.  The fact is no one has a majority anymore, not even the USCS organizations in town.  We know what our numbers are as far as participation between Cheney to the state border.  It's almost dead even anymore.  IEYSA has over 3K in what is almost their first year completed.  The unaffiliated league's numbers have been going down and Spokane Valley's rec numbers are improving (so big kudos to them for this). 

But you are correct, somehow we have a bunch of coaches who think they have re-invented the game/coaching styles, etc...and want to be PAID for this new founded knowledge so the next few years will be quite interesting to say the least.  But I can tell you our facility infrastructure has not improved in the area and having multiple groups all fighting for the same piece of grass is not helping the kids.  The complicated style is definitely more of a description then the Hatfields and McCoys is.   

[K2]

As a biologist, I am intrigued by ecological succession for various habitats.  With the recent changes in with WYS, RCL/PDL, USCS, Sounders academy, EDP, CAP, etc….. It appears that our soccer “order” is evolving at an ever increasing rate.  However, on the far eastern hinterland, soccer communities have devolved to the lowest denominator.  This form of natural selection is mystifying and perhaps violates sacred evolution principals. Is it time for Darwin to name a new suborder or perhaps Infraorder?   Keep them coming EW’s, I find this thread to be the “car wreck “everyone just needs to peek at.  Thanks for making my day 

[EWSoccer64]

There seems to be a state wide competition to see who can create the most interesting "car wreaks" in youth soccer.   And every time someone pulls something new, like Kitsap, one of the old masters at it takes umbrage and ups the ante.   The old 3 cornered competition between Spokane - TriCities - Vancouver has given way with all the new entrants like ECFC, Evergreen, NWNs, and Kitsap.
And of course you have the PDL/RCL and WSYSA being the orchestra for the show, they are always around and helping out the action.

Who is going to be the next area up on stage?

[Hit_the_Heifer]

Who is going to be the next area up on stage?

Entering the main stage, central Washington.

A disgruntled recreational coach (GU11) has hired local attorney, who drafted a lawsuit against Association president and vice president and president of the Moses Lake Soccer Club.  In her complaint, she is demanding $100,000.  Causes of action:  Defamation, IIED (intentional infliction of emotional distress), and "violation of due process rights."  Coach is alleging loss of future coaching income, which is interesting because the only paying gigs in Moses Lake are the high school positions.  Lawsuit stems from Moses Lake Youth Soccer Club's decision to not allow coach in question to coach a rec team last fall and from local Association's decision to proceed with disciplinary action, which was prompted by complaints from President of Cheney Soccer Club and a Spokane referee assignor.  Local Association failed to follow proper procedures, resulting in WYSA overturning the Association's decision.  Coach initially demanded $50,000.  When no response was forthcoming, lawsuit.

Coach has also hired legal counsel from Spokane, who is threatening filing complaints with Washington State Bar Assoc. against an attorney who volunteered to serve on the Association's Disciplinary Committee.

Needless to say, the already short list of people willing to volunteer their time to administrate just got a whole lot shorter...

Tender of defense made to WYSA; defense accepted by WYSA.  Counsel has made demand on coach's attorney to file the lawsuit, which has already been served.  Plaintiff's counsel put on notice that if lawsuit is filed, immediate motion to dismiss (12b6 motion) will be filed, along with motion for CR 11 sanctions.  This one will be ugly.   

[Soccer Wonk]

This coach is legitimately entitled to a lifetime income coaching youth soccer by teaching the key elements of the push pass ("heel down, toe up, plant foot in the direction of the target ...") but has clearly violated USSF bylaw 707, "exhaustion of remedies". This individual might prevail in the civil courts but the remedy seems substandard ... only 100 grand, but a lifetime ban from coaching youth soccer? Get a real attorney!

[Brat Jr]

Who is going to be the next area up on stage?

Entering the main stage, central Washington.

A disgruntled recreational coach (GU11) has hired local attorney, who drafted a lawsuit against Association president and vice president and president of the Moses Lake Soccer Club.  In her complaint, she is demanding $100,000.  Causes of action:  Defamation, IIED (intentional infliction of emotional distress), and "violation of due process rights."  Coach is alleging loss of future coaching income, which is interesting because the only paying gigs in Moses Lake are the high school positions.  Lawsuit stems from Moses Lake Youth Soccer Club's decision to not allow coach in question to coach a rec team last fall and from local Association's decision to proceed with disciplinary action, which was prompted by complaints from President of Cheney Soccer Club and a Spokane referee assignor.  Local Association failed to follow proper procedures, resulting in WYSA overturning the Association's decision.  Coach initially demanded $50,000.  When no response was forthcoming, lawsuit.

Coach has also hired legal counsel from Spokane, who is threatening filing complaints with Washington State Bar Assoc. against an attorney who volunteered to serve on the Association's Disciplinary Committee.

Needless to say, the already short list of people willing to volunteer their time to administrate just got a whole lot shorter...

Tender of defense made to WYSA; defense accepted by WYSA.  Counsel has made demand on coach's attorney to file the lawsuit, which has already been served.  Plaintiff's counsel put on notice that if lawsuit is filed, immediate motion to dismiss (12b6 motion) will be filed, along with motion for CR 11 sanctions.  This one will be ugly.   

Please tell me this is a joke...

[EWSoccer64]

There used to be a suspension of all members of anyone's family when they entered civil litigation against any USYSA youth soccer body before exhausting all remedies within the system, which does not seem to have been done in this case.  So are the family members of this individual still playing?

And since there are no paid youth soccer coaching positions within the CBYSA or the Moses Lake Soccer Club, then this smacks of a frivilous lawsuit.
However, no lawsuit is frivilous to those involved in it.  

What has the insurance company said to MLSC?   The amount filed for is 1/10th of the normal one million coverage.   The VP and Prez of the club are covered by the WSYSA/USYSA insurance, aren't they?

[Hit_the_Heifer]

Please tell me this is a joke...

It is not a joke.  The lawsuit sits on my desk at work. 

[EWSoccer64]

Please tell me this is a joke...

It is not a joke.  The lawsuit sits on my desk at work. 

Long ago, in a land far away, every spring there would be a short period known as "the crazy season".   It appears that in Washington State Soccer, this has been reinvented.

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

EWDOC Why are you so hostile? You clearly have misinterpreted my intentions. If you don't agree that Spokane soccer has issues that are brought on by the misguided leadership of clubs and associations then that is your prerogative. I will say however that I believe such an opinion is both wildly wide of the mark and bordering on insane.

Let me lay out my agenda clearly and concisely. I believe that airing out all of the dirty laundry and letting people read about it is the only way to facilitate a true system of parity and transparency. Please do not make the mistake of assuming a soccer club board is a true representation of what the majority of club members want or in fact need. In all my time being involved in soccer in Washington I have found a soccer club board is usually a collection of people who fall into one of three categories:

1.   Good honest people with the sole objective of looking out for the best interests of every child involved in their club
2.   People who are blinded by an agenda to better their bank balance, boost their ego or try to one up someone on another board who may have disagreed with them in the past causing a faction with a previous organization.
3.   People who only care about their own kids and base every decision on that.

It seems you would rather pick flaws in my postings or discuss technicalities rather than address the issues at hand. I would think your position both past and potentially in the future within the Spokane soccer scene and beyond would promote a necessity to investigate the happenings in and around the Spokane scene. I find it odd that just a couple of weeks ago you “assured me” that “breakers were not going anywhere” it appears that you either lied, were kept in the dark or in the past few weeks a massive decision was discussed and acted upon in an extremely timely manner. I refer of course to the email sent out by Shadow last night which states categorically that due to differences Breakers, Storm and Sabers will be “de-unifying”.


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWDOC]

LOL, I'm the hostile one but you are the one trying to yell Fire where there isn't one.  Your post proves my point so I am appreciative of it.  There is nothing wrong with discussing the many issues that revolve the world of youth soccer.  But to "air dirty laundry" when you don't even have the facts isn't discussing the issues, it's trying to cause issues.

Read your own post.  You suggested that the Spokane Select club could be leaving to the Valley or another affiliated organization.  I said no.  NEWS FLASH, none of the clubs are going anywhere, they are all committed to their association just like before.  The only change is they decided not to merge together and again, if you read the blog trail, I suggested that if they chose to discuss this that we should respect their decision. 

So the Breakers are not going anywhere, still true...sorry...so no lying involved...they will still be the same club, with the same association, serving the same kids...while I'm sure that bothers you, it's still true.  Again, I applaud the fact that these clubs discussed an idea over a couple of years, put it into action for a couple of years, then decided again that they felt it wasn't working as hoped.  How can that be bad that people actually tried to cooperate for the good of their local area and then changed their minds so they can revisit and try again later?

This isn't about transparency because people within the association knew this was being discussed so like I said, not a big deal to me.  I never said Spokane doesn't have issues, I just don't believe in creating new ones by people who clearly don't have all the facts. 

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

I will in the interest of discussion adopt your style of response.

LOL, I'm the hostile one but you are the one trying to yell Fire where there isn't one.  Your post proves my point so I am appreciative of it.  There is nothing wrong with discussing the many issues that revolve the world of youth soccer.  But to "air dirty laundry" when you don't even have the facts isn't discussing the issues, it's trying to cause issues.

Read your own post.  You suggested that the Spokane Select club could be leaving to the Valley or another affiliated organization.  I said no.  NEWS FLASH, none of the clubs are going anywhere, they are all committed to their association just like before.  The only change is they decided not to merge together and again, if you read the blog trail, I suggested that if they chose to discuss this that we should respect their decision.    While the clubs have remained under the IEYSA banner clearly there were issues with the Shadow leadership as my post stated. My post infers that clubs MAY have “shopped around” I know as fact that at least two of the 3 clubs did discuss the possibility of registering their teams with another association. They chose to stay where they are for now but for how long?

So the Breakers are not going anywhere, still true...sorry...so no lying involved...they will still be the same club, with the same association, serving the same kids...while I'm sure that bothers you, it's still true.  Again, I applaud the fact that these clubs discussed an idea over a couple of years, put it into action for a couple of years, then decided again that they felt it wasn't working as hoped.  How can that be bad that people actually tried to cooperate for the good of their local area and then changed their minds so they can revisit and try again later?    I too applaud any attempt to work for the overall development of the game. The point you seem to leave out is that while the concept is wonderful the reason it did not work despite what Sean Bushéy wrote is the Shadow did not deliver on the promises they made to the clubs 2 years ago. Despite the insistence that Shadow had a structure in place the reality is it was flawed. The program created a tier system and made the players, parents and board members of Sabers, Breakers and Storm feel like second class citizens.
 
This isn't about transparency because people within the association knew this was being discussed so like I said, not a big deal to me.  I never said Spokane doesn't have issues, I just don't believe in creating new ones by people who clearly don't have all the facts.       My posts do not create issues. My posts address issues. “people within the association knew this was being discussed” A select few knew and as you well know Shadow worked very hard to try and change the minds of the clubs with yet more empty promises.

To move on I think you and others have to understand that I admit to there being some speculation in my posts. While I try to substantiate there are always two or sometimes more sides to a story. Discussion is healthy and from discussion comes solutions. Your agenda as yet is unclear to me but you certainly seem to be passionate about soccer which is fantastic. I wish you luck on all your upcoming soccer endeavors successful or otherwise.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWSoccer64]

Keep it up, SWB!   Don't let the Company Man browbeat you into silence!   

[EWDOC]

Keep it up, SWB!   Don't let the Company Man browbeat you into silence!   

Now that's funny who ever you are.

Yes please SWB, keep it up....and by the way...are you affiliated with any club/academy or paid in anyway because of youth soccer?