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[TheWarpedDog]

The Foxes are a mainly girls

Laughing...thanks for that captain obvious!  Ta-ding!   

[EWSoccer64]

In Europe there are several professional teams that are known as "the Foxes"......

[Futsal]

In Europe there are several professional teams that are known as "the Foxes"......

Problem is when they get older they have to watch out for them "Wild and Crazy Guys!"

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

Keep it up, SWB!   Don't let the Company Man browbeat you into silence!   

Now that's funny who ever you are.

Yes please SWB, keep it up....and by the way...are you affiliated with any club/academy or paid in anyway because of youth soccer?

I am neither affiliated with or act on behalf of any soccer club or association in the Spokane area or the surrounding areas. I am merely an observer. My "active" role in youth soccer has passed however I hope I can still influence change and development for the greater benefit of Spokane Soccer

As for EWS64 I will endure The imperious browbeatings and scorn of men in the hope that by telling the truth we will make a positive difference for the youth soccer players in Spokane in future years.


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

I have received emails in the past 2 days from members who are sharing some disturbing facts about the SPVJSA leadership, decisions being made and board members being REMOVED. More to follow after some investigation. I am sure some have heard rumblings. feel free to contact me on here or by email at spokane_whistle_blower@hotmail.com if you have any information you'd like to share. As always I will respect my sources confidentiality and post the facts as they are received.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWDOC]

Some of this happened almost a week and a half ago, where have you been?

You need to tell your sources to get on the ball...

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

Some of this happened almost a week and a half ago, where have you been?

You need to tell your sources to get on the ball...

I only post when people see fit to forward me stories. I had heard rumblings of some issues at SPVJSA but that is not exactly a new thing now is it.

I am forming a complete posting on what happened from start to finish before I post. It seems that members of the SPVJSA board may have threatened sanctions and legal action without seeking legal advice and may also have been grossly incompetent in their interpretation and implementation of bylaws.

More to follow!

[spokaneman]

board member was forwarding emails on to a recreational competitor. recreational competitor is not USSF affiliated.

[Soccer Wonk]

If true, and presuming that the information in the forwarded emails was at all advantageous to the competitor, then the USSF affiliation of the competitor or the lack thereof would have no bearing.

[EWSoccer64]

Some of this happened almost a week and a half ago, where have you been?

You need to tell your sources to get on the ball...

It has been brewing for months, though.  The corruptive influences of money in the system seems to have struck yet again.

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

Some of this happened almost a week and a half ago, where have you been?

You need to tell your sources to get on the ball...

It has been brewing for months, though.  The corruptive influences of money in the system seems to have struck yet again.

It appears the corrupt nature of a few has manifested itself on not just the SPVJSA board but in Valley Youth Soccer. This issue seems to be one that will require more digging on my part. I intend to have a full post detailing the ins and outs of this situation by tomorrow.

For anyone who knows Spokane Soccer I am sure the 3 alleged main culprits of wrong doing will not surprise you. The alleged culprits are none other than Chris Sande (SPVJSA President), Manny Faridnia (SPVJSA Vice President) & David Barlos (Former SPVJSA Board member and founder of Valley Youth Soccer). It appears old wounds are far from healed and there is still no love lost between Messrs Faridnia & Barlos! As for the role Mr Sande allegedly plays in all of the shenanigans it seems circumventing WSYSA rules and bylaws will continue just like in his previous term as president which incidentally ended with him resigning his post due to the ship sinking.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWDOC]

Some of this happened almost a week and a half ago, where have you been?

You need to tell your sources to get on the ball...

It has been brewing for months, though.  The corruptive influences of money in the system seems to have struck yet again.

It appears the corrupt nature of a few has manifested itself on not just the SPVJSA board but in Valley Youth Soccer. This issue seems to be one that will require more digging on my part. I intend to have a full post detailing the ins and outs of this situation by tomorrow.

For anyone who knows Spokane Soccer I am sure the 3 alleged main culprits of wrong doing will not surprise you. The alleged culprits are none other than Chris Sande (SPVJSA President), Manny Faridnia (SPVJSA Vice President) & David Barlos (Former SPVJSA Board member and founder of Valley Youth Soccer). It appears old wounds are far from healed and there is still no love lost between Messrs Faridnia & Barlos! As for the role Mr Sande allegedly plays in all of the shenanigans it seems circumventing WSYSA rules and bylaws will continue just like in his previous term as president which incidentally ended with him resigning his post due to the ship sinking.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

If this "will require more digging", then you are really are out of touch aren't you?

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

It should be noted that this post has been pieced together using many different sources. EWDOC’s statement that I am somewhat removed could not be further away from the truth. As the post goes on you should realize there is always more than one side of a story and sometimes several. I like to try and substantiate by talking to multiple sources before I publish anything.

And so it begins…

The SPVJSA received an email asking for help publicizing a camp which a local high school coach and other qualified coaches would be involved in providing. Mr Sande decided to investigate further and came to the conclusion (as yet unsubstantiated) that the email was in fact sent from an alias of David Barlos. I am not going to name the high school coach involved but suffice to say he is fairly well respected locally. After Mr Sande had “investigated” it appears that an email was sent (minus board approval) to Mr Barlos threatening legal action AND sanctions against Valley Youth Soccer members. I am sure that anyone reading this understands that sanctions cannot be placed on VYS members as they are a completely unaffiliated organization. It is also important to note at this juncture that 2 non board members were copied on this email. Mr Barlos and a local attorney who also happens to be an ex SPVJSA board member. This may seem normal as legal action was threatened but the SPVJSA minutes show no discussion occurred about legal counsel being sought so this action appears to have been taken without board approval.

So moving along Mr Barlos responded in a somewhat flippant manner. He proceeded to point out all the flaws in the email and also make fun of Mr Sande a little. After a few more emails being sent back and forth which had the entire SPVJSA board copied Mr Sande appears to have tried to back track and conducted a damage limitation exercise. He removed Mr Barlos and the local attorney from the email chain and requested that the board not respond to Mr Barlos. Mr Barlos however was also addressed in the CC line of the email and continued to receive emails. Once Mr Sande realized his mistake he once again in attempt to limit the damages removed him. At this point the alleged infringement of “ethics” by Miss Tiera Irby came into play. As Mr Barlos was being discussed by email amongst the SPVJSA board members and had been on the original email sent by Mr Sande. It appears she thought it only fair he be made privy to the emails he was removed from. Now whether or not this was the correct course of action it appears none of the emails in question were classified as confidential.

Once again moving on Mr Barlos decided to let the SPVJSA board of directors know that in order to try and move on from the threats of legal action and sanctions that the camp would in fact be offered to all SPVJSA members at NO COST. He also stated that should the SPVJSA board not let their members know about a free clinic locally then they were acting in an unethical manner. Clearly this is a moral/ethical dilemma which the board had to deal with. Is it wrong not to tell 1000 youth soccer players about a free clinic which is being run locally by qualified coaches including high school coaches? I will leave that up to your sensibilities and allow you to form your own opinion.

Cue Mr Faridnia and some preposterous claims. “You get what you pay for. His free soccer clinics will confuse the kids and will not teach them anything.” This from the vice president of an organization that uses parent coaches who don’t even need to participate in an E license yet high school and USSF qualified coaches will confuse the kids? Once again this can be left to each individual to form an opinion. It is important at this juncture to point out that some of the SPVJSA board was in fact willing to discuss the possibility that not informing members about a free clinic in the Valley may in fact be wrong and could come back on the board in a negative manner. While Mr Faridnia and Mr Sande insisted upon not sending out information about the free clinic. It is also important to note that Mr Sande allegedly instructed the SPVJSA secretary not to record any minutes and no vote was taken when the board discussed this issue. As such there is no record of this meeting. I have received only verbal confirmation it happened.

Mr Barlos quoted a few of the emails which were sent after he had been removed from the chain and it is alleged that Mr Faridnia and another board member accused the board of having a leak. After a day or so it was ascertained by Mr Sande and Mr Faridnia that Miss Irby had in fact forwarded some emails to Mr Barlos. Her resignation was subsequently demanded by Mr Faridnia and Mr Sande. Mr Sande in an attempt to remove Miss Irby from the board went about filing a grievance and calling a hearing. The problem being that WSYSA sets out the disciplinary procedure clearly in rule 602. Mr Sande followed none of the procedure and still pushed ahead with what became a mockery of a hearing with only 2 members in attendance.

A committee was formed to oversee the hearing and provide the board with a recommendation on what action to take. Despite the committee recommending that the SPVJSA board drop the issue until such time as they were familiar with the correct procedure for grievances and removal of board members the SPVJSA board of directors voted to remove Miss Irby from her position as secretary.

Miss Irby has given notice that she will appeal the decision and has also filed a grievance against Mr Sande the details of which I will hold until such time as WSYSA has had time to process the grievance. Perhaps they will follow due process and show how business should be conducted in future.

The outcome of this will be somewhat interesting and could shape the landscape of youth soccer in Spokane moving forward. Some questions however remain:

1.The first reaction when this gets to WSYSA surely will be “Faridnia and Sande again… Seriously?” How long before the state relieves these two individuals of their duties?

2. Looking at the SPVJSA Board of Directors is like looking at a collection of people with interest only in premier clubs. Isn’t it better to have impartial rec coaches on the board since that is really what the association should be focusing on?

3. How can the SPVJSA move on from the calamities of the previous 4 years when the same people keep popping up on the board?

4. Will Miss Irby win her appeal and if so will she be reinstated to the board?


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWDOC]

LOL...I'll stick to my comment...most people involved in Spokane Soccer have known all of these "alleged specifics" for a while now...so like I said, you're out of touch if you are now just coming to know any of this stuff.

Keep up the top notch reporting...

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

Manny Faridnia has resigned from the board of SPVJSA.

This should bring some rejoicing from many involved in soccer throughout the state. At this weeks SPVJSA board meeting it has been reported that he requested executive session to discuss his resignation. It appears that as of now no vote was taken to accept his resignation. We can all only hope that the most corrupt family in Spokane soccer is finally removed from a position of power.

This would mean that the VP position is open and board appointed. It will be interesting to note who comes in next. It may alss be of note to some that the board seems to be stacked towards one club within the association:

SpVJSA Board of Directors

President (non voting director) - Chris Sande : Currently no club affiliation but nominated by Abbas Faridnia (SSC Director) at AGM

Vice-President (voting director) - Manny Faridnia : Abbas Faridnia's father and SSC "Director of Coaching Education"

Secretary/Coaches Rep (voting director) - ~Position Vacant~

Treasurer (voting director) - Jeff Ellingson : Kids play for SSC and Abbas Faridnia

Plantes Ferry Director (voting director) - Chris Bastin : SSC Coach and supporter of Abbas Faridnia and SSC program

Director of Recreation (voting director) - ~Position Vacant~

Director of Development (voting director) - Brian Dreves : SSC Coach and friend of Abbas Faridnia

Director at Large (non voting director) - Jason Bellefeuille : SSC "Youth Development Director" and friend of Abbas Faridnia

Judiciary Chair (non voting director) - Stephen Brown : River City SC staff coach/trainer

Marketing Chair (non voting director) - Mark Richards : Kids play for SSC and Abbas Faridnia

Is there a board throughout the entire state that is so biased towards one club? The state must look at this situation and rectify it. An association with 4 current voting positions and all 4 are affiliated with one club. This cannot be allowed to continue and the potential conflicts of interest are plain to see.

Added to this entire debacle the SPVJSA Bylaws clearly state that anyone who earns or has a family member who earns more than a certain amount from the association or a member club cannot serve on the board. Guess who's son earns his entire income from SSC... you guessed it folks, Mr Manny Faridnia.

Where to go from here. How can people involved at the local, district and state level allow these things to happen?



Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWSoccer64]

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

[NKSoccerFan]

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

Maybe sounderfan could start a new contest after the best logo poll is done!  

 

[sounderfan]

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

Maybe soundfan could start a new contest after the best logo poll is done!   

 

Hmmmm....   

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

As I understand the resignation came after the board disagreed with Manny and his son's point of view on a trivial matter. It seems that the resignation was an attempt to force the board to change its decision. Having had his "bluff called" Mr. Faridnia is now in a position where he may lobby to have his resignation not accepted by the Board of Directors.

In reference to your other point it is no secret that the Faridnia's ALLEGEDLY aggressively sought to block the election of Tom MacDougal and Jeff Hulse to president by finding their own candidate in the form of Mr. Chris Sande. It would seem that at least on some issues Mr. Sande is not living up to his billing as a puppet for the Faridnia family. I for one would like to think this pattern would continue but we can only wait and see.

Remember the last order of business when Mr. Sande was president previously was to merge with what was the then WSYSA affiliated SYSA which we all know did not work out. Now with IEYSA as the "competition" will the merger idea be discussed again? Will Mr. Faridnia continue his stance of secluding the SpVJSA from all outside parties. It must be lonely on that island...


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWDOC]

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

As I understand the resignation came after the board disagreed with Manny and his son's point of view on a trivial matter. It seems that the resignation was an attempt to force the board to change its decision. Having had his "bluff called" Mr. Faridnia is now in a position where he may lobby to have his resignation not accepted by the Board of Directors.

In reference to your other point it is no secret that the Faridnia's ALLEGEDLY aggressively sought to block the election of Tom MacDougal and Jeff Hulse to president by finding their own candidate in the form of Mr. Chris Sande. It would seem that at least on some issues Mr. Sande is not living up to his billing as a puppet for the Faridnia family. I for one would like to think this pattern would continue but we can only wait and see.

Remember the last order of business when Mr. Sande was president previously was to merge with what was the then WSYSA affiliated SYSA which we all know did not work out. Now with IEYSA as the "competition" will the merger idea be discussed again? Will Mr. Faridnia continue his stance of secluding the SpVJSA from all outside parties. It must be lonely on that island...


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

This is why you are part of the problem in Spokane and not the solution, you can't even get your facts straight....I keep telling you, find a better source....there was never, I repeat, never a attempt to merge Spvjsa with SYSA....and IEYSA is not a competitor, they are a sister/brother organization offering soccer to the kids in their area, just like Spjsa offers soccer to kids in their area.   Now, do some people discourage the two groups from working together for selfish reasons, of course, but at the moment, both associations are working together on several current offerings to better the rec soccer environment for their kids....

Don't quit your day job, reporting isn't your thing....

[EWSoccer64]

Err, EWDOC, the state is not filling you in very well.   Check your sources again before you claim that there was never, ever any attempt to merge the SYSA and the Valley.

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

As I understand the resignation came after the board disagreed with Manny and his son's point of view on a trivial matter. It seems that the resignation was an attempt to force the board to change its decision. Having had his "bluff called" Mr. Faridnia is now in a position where he may lobby to have his resignation not accepted by the Board of Directors.

In reference to your other point it is no secret that the Faridnia's ALLEGEDLY aggressively sought to block the election of Tom MacDougal and Jeff Hulse to president by finding their own candidate in the form of Mr. Chris Sande. It would seem that at least on some issues Mr. Sande is not living up to his billing as a puppet for the Faridnia family. I for one would like to think this pattern would continue but we can only wait and see.

Remember the last order of business when Mr. Sande was president previously was to merge with what was the then WSYSA affiliated SYSA which we all know did not work out. Now with IEYSA as the "competition" will the merger idea be discussed again? Will Mr. Faridnia continue his stance of secluding the SpVJSA from all outside parties. It must be lonely on that island...


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

This is why you are part of the problem in Spokane and not the solution, you can't even get your facts straight....I keep telling you, find a better source....there was never, I repeat, never a attempt to merge Spvjsa with SYSA....and IEYSA is not a competitor, they are a sister/brother organization offering soccer to the kids in their area, just like Spjsa offers soccer to kids in their area.   Now, do some people discourage the two groups from working together for selfish reasons, of course, but at the moment, both associations are working together on several current offerings to better the rec soccer environment for their kids....

Don't quit your day job, reporting isn't your thing....

[EWDOC]

No need, I always love it when someone from outside Spokane gives credence to rumors and treats them as facts.  Newsflash, I was involved in every detail, including the legal mess...the clubs in the area tried to merge with Spokane Valley....it didn't happen....

If you understood the legal mess, you would know that your statement couldn't be true as written...

[Futsal]

The discussions that took place were between SpVJSA and it's affiliated clubs and the clubs formly affiliated with SYSA (Shadow, Breakers, Scotties, Sabers, Storm) ... SYSA was not involved in the discussions.  The topic was one Association.

[Spokane_Whistle_Blower]

While it is very good news that Faridnia "The GodFather of Valley Soccer", has resigned (is this due to connections to illegal voting and illegal voters?) it is not true that the Valley has the most biased and one sided board in the state.   One has to take a look at Tri-Cties and Yakima as well.....

As I understand the resignation came after the board disagreed with Manny and his son's point of view on a trivial matter. It seems that the resignation was an attempt to force the board to change its decision. Having had his "bluff called" Mr. Faridnia is now in a position where he may lobby to have his resignation not accepted by the Board of Directors.

In reference to your other point it is no secret that the Faridnia's ALLEGEDLY aggressively sought to block the election of Tom MacDougal and Jeff Hulse to president by finding their own candidate in the form of Mr. Chris Sande. It would seem that at least on some issues Mr. Sande is not living up to his billing as a puppet for the Faridnia family. I for one would like to think this pattern would continue but we can only wait and see.

Remember the last order of business when Mr. Sande was president previously was to merge with what was the then WSYSA affiliated SYSA which we all know did not work out. Now with IEYSA as the "competition" will the merger idea be discussed again? Will Mr. Faridnia continue his stance of secluding the SpVJSA from all outside parties. It must be lonely on that island...


Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

This is why you are part of the problem in Spokane and not the solution, you can't even get your facts straight....I keep telling you, find a better source....there was never, I repeat, never a attempt to merge Spvjsa with SYSA....and IEYSA is not a competitor, they are a sister/brother organization offering soccer to the kids in their area, just like Spjsa offers soccer to kids in their area.   Now, do some people discourage the two groups from working together for selfish reasons, of course, but at the moment, both associations are working together on several current offerings to better the rec soccer environment for their kids....

Don't quit your day job, reporting isn't your thing....

Mr. Hulse, you would do well to take note that you do not know everything going on in your town, district or state in regards to youth soccer. You know only what people choose to inform you of. You will find upon further investigation that Mr. Manny Faridnia did actually meet with SYSA and representatives from their Board of Directors. this is on record as he reported back to the SpVJSA board on the matter 2 years ago. There was in fact a "gentleman's agreement" not to impede on each others territory and to leave things as they stood with an agreement to re-visit the merger discussion if and when SYSA were in a better position with district 6/WSYSA.

You seem to constantly be upset with my posting of facts/opinions. please also remember that your own point of view on topics is only one side and that your "facts" are also some what flawed. Perhaps irony is lost on you... You should note that when IEYSA was described as the "competition" the use of a common literary device known as quotations was intended to purvey my indignation at Mr. Faridnia's insistence that SpVJSA and IEYSA should not work together. The tone of my prose can be easily deciphered when it is read and evaluated in a rational manner.

Mr Hulse I view you as a fairly good individual despite your own inability to look objectively at most issues. Please learn to read posts from me without looking to pick faults. Take my posts for what they are. As I have stated many times. My postings are the culmination of many conversations and gathering information from several sides of the divide before drawing conclusions. Perhaps if you spent more time on pertinent issues instead of trying to pick faults in my posts your district 6 schedule could have been posted a lot sooner.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just the whistle blower!

[EWSoccer64]

>>>>This is why you are part of the problem in Spokane and not the solution, you can't even get your facts straight....I keep telling you, find a better source....there was never, I repeat, never a attempt to merge Spvjsa with SYSA....and IEYSA is not a competitor, they are a sister/brother organization offering soccer to the kids in their area, just like Spjsa offers soccer to kids in their area.   Now, do some people discourage the two groups from working together for selfish reasons, of course, but at the moment, both associations are working together on several current offerings to better the rec soccer environment for their kids....
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SO you are claiming that the WSYSA never offered SYSA control over the valley, and vice versa?   And that at one time the WSYSA was telling the valley that they had to annex the old SYSA area when the SYSA went USCS?   
And you are still totally unaware of any conversations between interested parties in Eastern WAShington and the IDaho Youth Soccer Assn about combining?

[EWDOC]

>>>>This is why you are part of the problem in Spokane and not the solution, you can't even get your facts straight....I keep telling you, find a better source....there was never, I repeat, never a attempt to merge Spvjsa with SYSA....and IEYSA is not a competitor, they are a sister/brother organization offering soccer to the kids in their area, just like Spjsa offers soccer to kids in their area.   Now, do some people discourage the two groups from working together for selfish reasons, of course, but at the moment, both associations are working together on several current offerings to better the rec soccer environment for their kids....
<<<

SO you are claiming that the WSYSA never offered SYSA control over the valley, and vice versa?   And that at one time the WSYSA was telling the valley that they had to annex the old SYSA area when the SYSA went USCS?   
And you are still totally unaware of any conversations between interested parties in Eastern WAShington and the IDaho Youth Soccer Assn about combining?

SO you are claiming that the WSYSA never offered SYSA control over the valley, and vice versa?   Correct, not a claim,never happened.

And that at one time the WSYSA was telling the valley that they had to annex the old SYSA area when the SYSA went USCS?   Correct, not a claim, never happened.

And you are still totally unaware of any conversations between interested parties in Eastern WAShington and the IDaho Youth Soccer Assn about combining? Nice way to sneak in this one....have been aware of the only conversations that matter, which were those between WYS, IYS and Montana, but the key topic of those conversations were about league play which died down....if any other "Eastern Washington party" cares to talk to Idaho, this has gone on for years, mostly coming from Idaho btw, not the other way around, and isn't going anywhere.

As to our great "seer" of all that is Spokane soccer, I'm sorry you have to lower yourself to find credibility here.  Everyone knows who I am because I introduced myself to the entire WPS community when I first came aboard.  But glad you finally asked around.  But at the end of the day, your twisted view of pieces of information you get here and there, still are not "facts" as you present them.  Everyone is aware of the meeting between the Faridinia's and SYSA, but you don't have the topic of conversation nailed down.  Like I said, if you want to believe your sources, feel free....but you'll still be inaccurate with the details based on all of your previous posts....but since you have an already perverted view of things, you are the one who has makes the pieces fit your view...

Your comment on the schedule is hilarious, shows me still how much you are clueless to what is going on.  Hide behind your anonymity, people like you do us all a favor when we don't have to actually know the face of someone who adds to the problems here while the rest of us actually work to improve youth soccer in the area.

[EWDOC]

I'll even go one further...one of the reasons I do not hide my identity is so that people can say with confidence "I heard that Jeff said...."  and then people can contact me directly to tell me I'm wrong...though yet to happen because all they have is the site or someone's buddy as a "source" of info.

So if you want to grow a pair, have your sources contact me directly and I'll be more than happy to discuss it with them.  But you have to remember, many people purposely give their version on this specific time in history based on what they want people to believe so it puts them in a certain light, they had selfish reasons...but in the end, most don't have a clue, including the Spokesman idiot reporter who tried to actually do a story based on here-say from one or two people.

[EWDOC]

So much going on...where is Spokane Whistle Blower to straighten things out???