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How many players from a good U-11 team were still on the team at U-18

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Retention of Players
« on: April 27, 2011, 11:07:28 AM »

This is for folks that have been through it. Post your own first hand knowledge. Does not matter if they left or they were cut.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 11:43:07 AM »

almost 30 quick views and only 2 votes. What is this taboo to talk about?
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 11:47:47 AM »

this is a wide open question.  At U11 you have what 12-14 players now days on the roster.  I would say you are going to lose approximately 2 players per year for upgrading of the roster.  You may also lose players as they get older for other sports, other committments or moving out of the area.  It is hard to keep a real good core.  Back in the day, we had a full roster of 16 players and when we were done, we had 3 players from the original team.  We had gone through a major political uprising with our previous club, returned to city select and came back and won the challenge cup at U18.  What is funny is that the cross town rivals early on combined with our team later on and that was the basis for our team the last few years.  That team is very tight and if we started with that core, we probably would still have the 16 players.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 12:01:01 PM »

NK Explosion 93 has 7 players from their U11 team I believe.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 12:41:47 PM »

almost 30 quick views and only 2 votes. What is this taboo to talk about?

maybe those who have viewed just haven't been there yet as the OP asked for first hand knowledge.  My DD left for a new team at U12 so I guess I'm out.   :-X
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 01:18:54 PM »

almost 30 quick views and only 2 votes. What is this taboo to talk about?

maybe those who have viewed just haven't been there yet as the OP asked for first hand knowledge.  My DD left for a new team at U12 so I guess I'm out.   :-X

DD has switched teams after 2 years with each Club ( hopefully this is her final switch ) ...
no knowledge from me either
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 01:39:33 PM »

Easier to get TO the top than to STAY on top.....0-3 is my vote/experience
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 03:15:54 PM »

Now at U17 most clubs have 0 players on the team from U11.  I know of one club that has 2 players that started at U11.  Parents just never wanted to look anywhere else, it was convenient.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 05:15:45 PM »

I viewed this but I have not made it thru it ALL yet. I'm in the middle of it all with many years ahead of me still


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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 05:22:02 PM »

So how many still around GR8?
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2011, 06:52:46 PM »

NK Explosion 93 has 7 players from their U11 team I believe.

And is this part of the reason that WestSound was pressing for combined tryouts with them getting first choice/pitch?
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2011, 06:56:44 PM »

I ran a couple of rather good boys select teams up through the ages, U-13 through U-18.   Including kids who moved out of town, who went to premier and then quit, we kept 50% all the way through the first time and about 12 of the 18 originals the second go around.    If these teams had been premier teams, then the numbers would have changed IMHO.   
   Premier(incl RCL) is aboaut putting the best team together each year.   Select can offer an avenue to put together the best team - that meets the needs of everyone - over the long haul.  But you will never win the Champions Cup with a select team.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 09:42:14 PM »

With the old LPT system to retain your P1-3 ranking teams were required to return 8 players from the prior season - I don't think the RCL requires any number of retention to maintain your level of play - correct me if I am wrong (I am sure several of you will ;) )  Makes you wonder how this will impact the number of players still on a team at U18.

Oldest DD just finished her U18 year and they had 1 original player still on the team - the majority moved to other teams or quit soccer with some being cut along the way. She played on 3 teams in 3 different clubs for her journey - working her way from a lower B team to one of the top teams in her age group.  Players that are great at U11 are not necessarily great at U18 and visa versa.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 01:42:13 AM »

NK Explosion 93 has 7 players from their U11 team I believe.

And is this part of the reason that WestSound was pressing for combined tryouts with them getting first choice/pitch?

 :laugh:
One of the reasons I'm sure.
Explosion had 5 WS players at their tryouts.  1-2 made the team.
Who's feeding who?
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 08:29:54 AM »

With the old LPT system to retain your P1-3 ranking teams were required to return 8 players from the prior season - I don't think the RCL requires any number of retention to maintain your level of play - correct me if I am wrong (I am sure several of you will ;) )
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Yes, they still have that requirement.
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 10:10:31 AM »

NK Explosion 93 has 7 players from their U11 team I believe.

And is this part of the reason that WestSound was pressing for combined tryouts with them getting first choice/pitch?

 :laugh:
One of the reasons I'm sure.
Explosion had 5 WS players at their tryouts.  1-2 made the team.
Who's feeding who?


You do realise that this sort of thing really, really pisses off the powers that be?   The system is designed so that all your players MUST be salivating at the thought of moving UP to the designated higher level team, and that anyone who had once been part of a designated higher level team must automatically make the roster of the lower level team and then automatically become a starter, nay, even a star on the lower level team.   By not following the script, your team and your caoches are embarressing the powers that be.
  In some areas, your coach for the NK Xplosion would be removed, perhaps even banned for having such temerity, and the players would be ordered to play on the designated higher level teams.....
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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 10:22:48 AM »

NK Explosion 93 has 7 players from their U11 team I believe.

And is this part of the reason that WestSound was pressing for combined tryouts with them getting first choice/pitch?

 :laugh:
One of the reasons I'm sure.
Explosion had 5 WS players at their tryouts.  1-2 made the team.
Who's feeding who?


You do realise that this sort of thing really, really pisses off the powers that be?   The system is designed so that all your players MUST be salivating at the thought of moving UP to the designated higher level team, and that anyone who had once been part of a designated higher level team must automatically make the roster of the lower level team and then automatically become a starter, nay, even a star on the lower level team.   By not following the script, your team and your caoches are embarressing the powers that be.
  In some areas, your coach for the NK Xplosion would be removed, perhaps even banned for having such temerity, and the players would be ordered to play on the designated higher level teams.....

They could threaten to cut their salaries...no wait...they are volunteer coaches!
 ???  How did we let this happen!!!!

 :drinks:

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Re: Retention of Players
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 04:19:53 PM »

So how many still around GR8?
5 from the end of the BU11 A team year (we had 9 on the roster)  but that is counting a fellow who did not make the team at U13 but did earn his spot back at U14.
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