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[#7]

Whats going on???  Heard meeting this past weekend?

[MichGoBlue]

Has been a rumor for a while. While I think NWN and FCA might be interested, I don't know that their parent organizations are.

DD has friends that play for both so curious to see how it would shake out - would they have more RCL teams in the various age groups or fewer teams, or just 2 - 3 like now?  Also not 100% what the benefit would be to each club would be.

[#7]

Anyone heard anything about the merger?

[ritz bitz]

I have had players play for both clubs.

Heard it was the state pushing for this with neither club being overly interested.

I find it interesting that the north end puget sound has been merger crazy since the RCL came to being while the south seems to not have been as greatly impacted (maybe they have and I just have not heard about it?).  A lot of good options have vansished for players.

Kind of like the state shooting itself in the foot if they are the driver - don't they realize they will lose membership and revenue?

[goldengoal]

Alliance just elected a new President this week, so my guess is things are on hold- I cant imagine a Sylvia and Shumacher/Wymer merger, but all things are possible

[#7]

Who is Alliances new president?  Thanks!

[Left Foot]

Alliance just elected a new President this week, so my guess is things are on hold- I cant imagine a Sylvia and Shumacher/Wymer merger, but all things are possible

Do you mean that the rumor is on hold? Or maybe that there is a rumor that the rumored merger is on hold? Which I guess means no more rumor? sheesh...

This sort of gets us into "Test post please ignore" land. That reminds me, I should go ignore that thread to see what is up....

[#7]

Left Foot!  

"Test post please ignore" land. That reminds me, I should go ignore that thread to see what is up....
Thanks for ignoring the post.

[Left Foot]

Left Foot! 

"Test post please ignore" land. That reminds me, I should go ignore that thread to see what is up....
Thanks for ignoring the post loser!

But I didn't ignore it so it is now not ignored -- and in direct contravention of the request! All very confusing!

[chicken wing]

The Dos and GRFC merger will help pave the way for NWN and Alliance merge.

[soccerpride]

Is the DOS and GRFC merger for real now? I was in the coffee shop (Starfire) on Monday, and could not help overhearing a conversation some DOS mom's were having about merging. There was one thing that made a lot of sense, "we do it now on our own terms, or wait for the state to force us on their terms..."

[bigb]

I hear it is in the final paper work stages...look for a New Year announcement. 

[soccerpride]

WOW!!!

[Dark Victory]

The Dos and GRFC merger will help pave the way for NWN and Alliance merge.

Just Curious, how does the Dos/GRFC merger help pave the way for the NYSA (FCA) / NWN’s merger???

[chicken wing]

WSYSA is allowing RCL's to merge in violation of association boundaries.  Interesting times in youth soccer.

Wonder what would happen if nonRCL clubs got together.... say Isssaquah, Tynecastle and Slammers..

[lurking]

GR-ossvidonya? LOL   

Just kidding, it's probably a good idea if they can work out the details well enough.

[Pops]

WSYSA is allowing RCL's to merge in violation of association boundaries.  Interesting times in youth soccer.

Wonder what would happen if nonRCL clubs got together.... say Isssaquah, Tynecastle and Slammers..

Not a violation if the associations agree to a shared club.

[EWSoccer64]

WSYSA is allowing RCL's to merge in violation of association boundaries.  Interesting times in youth soccer.

Wonder what would happen if nonRCL clubs got together.... say Isssaquah, Tynecastle and Slammers..

Not a violation if the associations agree to a shared club.

Nothing is a violation of the rules if it meets with the approval of El Presidente.  He has the demonstrated power to rewrite the rules when it suits him.

[lester]

I don't get the value. 
Here's my random thoughts on it:

Dos is kind of Kent centered but not geographically in control of it, GRFC is Renton, I guess.  Dos brings a handful of strong girls teams, Renton has a handful in each gender. All of the players in either club could have gone and played at the other if they wanted to... Starfire is Starfire...  or if they were good enough to make the A team there.  There is nothing to tie the players of the assorted local clubs that feed them to either RCL club and plenty of alternatives to not play with either. 

It kind of seems more like just the end of Dosveedanya and one less RCL A team for kids in the area to play on.  The Dos BOD must have crunched the numbers and seen they couldn't afford to play in the RCL, or the aggressive ones that worked so hard to control the Kent Association grew out of the club. The club jumped through all the RCL hoops and died for their efforts.
Does GRFC really think that all the players form Dos will just migrate to GRFC?   Is it a sustainable gain? 

Dos didn't have a geographic area under their control to supply players.   They draw from Auburn, Kent, Mt Rainer, Maple Valley, Sumner and other clubs, much like WPFC.  Merging with them doesn't bring you anything beyond the existing teams.   Whoa!   Is this in WPFC's future? At least WPFC has some fields.

Another sad day for girls soccer.  Dos follows the FC Royals in relegating girls soccer to fundraising status for the boys side.  I had a lot of respect for Malia and what Dos was accomplishing for girls soccer.  i still have a lot of respect for Malia.

Bonus for PSPL Marauders and FC Kent, they'll gain players and coaches.  Maybe Aanvallen and Rainier FC will return as a US Club club?

RIP Dos.

That's what I think.

[EWSoccer64]

Lester, you are certainly more knowledgeable than I about the local area, but have thought about this in your analysis?

1.  It is part of the State's masterplan to reduce the number of associations and clubs in the state.
2.   What are the impacts on other local clubs  - for instance the small FWU?   Is FWU going to be caught in a vice of bigger RCL clubs surrounding them?
3.   Does this merger make sense for the paid coaches and staff of the two clubs?
4.   Are either of the two clubs in any difficulties right now, or even both of them?   Finnancial, or performance within the RCL?   How are their teams doing?
5.   Is there a field issue going on with either of the two clubs?

I don't get the value. 
Here's my random thoughts on it:

Dos is kind of Kent centered but not geographically in control of it, GRFC is Renton, I guess.  Dos brings a handful of strong girls teams, Renton has a handful in each gender. All of the players in either club could have gone and played at the other if they wanted to... Starfire is Starfire...  or if they were good enough to make the A team there.  There is nothing to tie the players of the assorted local clubs that feed them to either RCL club and plenty of alternatives to not play with either. 

It kind of seems more like just the end of Dosveedanya and one less RCL A team for kids in the area to play on.  The Dos BOD must have crunched the numbers and seen they couldn't afford to play in the RCL, or the aggressive ones that worked so hard to control the Kent Association grew out of the club. The club jumped through all the RCL hoops and died for their efforts.
Does GRFC really think that all the players form Dos will just migrate to GRFC?   Is it a sustainable gain? 

Dos didn't have a geographic area under their control to supply players.   They draw from Auburn, Kent, Mt Rainer, Maple Valley, Sumner and other clubs, much like WPFC.  Merging with them doesn't bring you anything beyond the existing teams.   Whoa!   Is this in WPFC's future? At least WPFC has some fields.

Another sad day for girls soccer.  Dos follows the FC Royals in relegating girls soccer to fundraising status for the boys side.  I had a lot of respect for Malia and what Dos was accomplishing for girls soccer.  i still have a lot of respect for Malia.

Bonus for PSPL Marauders and FC Kent, they'll gain players and coaches.  Maybe Aanvallen and Rainier FC will return as a US Club club?

RIP Dos.

That's what I think.

[Futsal]

WSYSA is allowing RCL's to merge in violation of association boundaries.  Interesting times in youth soccer.

Wonder what would happen if nonRCL clubs got together.... say Isssaquah, Tynecastle and Slammers..

Not a violation if the associations agree to a shared club.

It is not really sharing ... but applying the 100% rule at a local level.  There is no rule that says a club must register all of its teams with the same Association. 

However a few questions come up.

1. Will the RCL club need to sign two RCL Charters, one with each Association ... or will all the RCL teams be registered to only one Association.  If it is the latter, what benefit does the Association without the charter get from the deal?

2. Can a club player on a team assigned to Association A use the Player Pass to play for another team assigned to Association B.  USYS treats clubs who are in multiple state associations as separate clubs for player movement purposes although they are the same business entity.  How will WYS address this?

[bigb]

I am hearing that FWFC and WPFC are in talks, but FWFC has some concerns of WPFC financial standings, because at the current moment FWFC is in great financial standings. If you ask me, HPFC is going to be in a world of hurt if both these mergers take place...HPFC would be smart to merge with FWFC before they merge with WPFC... Then DOS/GRFC would run the southeast of I-5 and WPFC/FWFC southwest of I-5… With DOS/GRFC merger  Malia will be the DOC for both clubs and that they will be changing the Clubs name in the future…

[sidelinerdad]

I am hearing that FWFC and WPFC are in talks, but FWFC has some concerns of WPFC financial standings, because at the current moment FWFC is in great financial standings. If you ask me, HPFC is going to be in a world of hurt if both these mergers take place...HPFC would be smart to merge with FWFC before they merge with WPFC... Then DOS/GRFC would run the southeast of I-5 and WPFC/FWFC southwest of I-5… With DOS/GRFC merger  Malia will be the DOC for both clubs and that they will be changing the Clubs name in the future…

The DOS/GRFC has been in the works for sometime - and I believe is in the final stages of being finalized.  Also heard WPFC stepped away from the FWFC talks - something about ego - Haven't heard anything on HPFC. 

[bigb]

To bad EGO's have to get in the way of Soccer...It always seems to happen when clubs try to merge...May be now that FWFC has a new president this year, talks will start back up...Congrats to DOS and GRFC, they should be a very strong club.

[Scrunch]

Who again was it that sold this state's soccer community that mergers were good for the players? 

We will all look back on this in another few years and laugh at how we were so foolish to think clubs merging would somehow improve the quality of the instruction or the game. 

Do families select elementary schools based on size?  Both are educational at their core ..... or should be.  But if education is not occurring then, by all means, roll em all up, sort 'em out and be done with it!

[Old Dog]

 

Do families select elementary schools based on size? 

No, but here in Puyallup the school district is doing away with smaller elementary schools to better serve the community.

[anyudes]

To bad EGO's have to get in the way of Soccer...It always seems to happen when clubs try to merge...May be now that FWFC has a new president this year, talks will start back up...Congrats to DOS and GRFC, they should be a very strong club.

WP has a new president too. I wonder what the timeline was on the FW/WP merger.

[soccerpride]

So is the topic of this original thread, dead? I mean, are NWN and FC Alliance merging or not? Sorry, trying to keep up on mergers...and club name changes.