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[Der Kaiser]

Is your club/coach training the players in a technical manner. Area RCL coaches need to do better at repetitive training of dribbling skills, first touch, trapping, using weak foot, better passing.

I am not seeing enough improvement in the PNW compared to the California premier teams player skills. Seems like a lot of scrimmaging and too many games being played without enough technical skill development between matches.

How is the USA game to improve if youth coaches are lazy for their paycheck stipends?

[ThiKuBC]

You get a "wicked" for this post from me!

I don't mean to defend coaches and programs I don't know - but my question is: How many games have you attended? B/w how many clubs? both genders? How many practices do you attend?

The big question no one asks is "how serious are the players at wanting to develop these skills? Or do they just want to scrimmage at soccer and simply go through the motions until the scrimmage?" It's a fact - the kids are not "desperate" to be great in this part of the world....or not enough players are!

[Der Kaiser]

Are you kidding... I have attended 100's of Select and Premier training sessions and games. You mention that "kid's are not desperate to get better." That is a joke in itself, as numerous youth players in Select and Premier want to get better, but there is not many avenues/options for good technical training in the Club soccer in the PNW. There are a few RCL clubs that are moving to more technical training that have very good coaching staff in place. Seattle United is one such club making huge strides in technical training. In europe it is 4 to 5 training sessions for every game, here in the USA it is 2 training sessions for every game on average. I realize that 75% of the youth players are hoping to just make the high school team, what about the other 25% that want to play college soccer and even dream of a professional career. 

[Left Foot]

Are you kidding... I have attended 100's of Select and Premier training sessions and games. You mention that "kid's are not desperate to get better." That is a joke in itself, as numerous youth players in Select and Premier want to get better, but there is not many avenues/options for good technical training in the Club soccer in the PNW. There are a few RCL clubs that are moving to more technical training that have very good coaching staff in place. Seattle United is one such club making huge strides in technical training. In europe it is 4 to 5 training sessions for every game, here in the USA it is 2 training sessions for every game on average. I realize that 75% of the youth players are hoping to just make the high school team, what about the other 25% that want to play college soccer and even dream of a professional career. 

I'm hoping he is kidding but don't think so. Remember, this is the guy who has no problem banning a kid from playing soccer for any other teams if he or she leaves in the middle of the season. How's that for supporting kids desparate to play! Or maybe just coaches desparate to win and get paid.

Blaming a whole nation of kids for not having heart and desire enough to excel. Beats looking at yourself I guess. I'm not sure what kids he is watching either....

[metz123]

Are you kidding... I have attended 100's of Select and Premier training sessions and games. You mention that "kid's are not desperate to get better." That is a joke in itself, as numerous youth players in Select and Premier want to get better, but there is not many avenues/options for good technical training in the Club soccer in the PNW. There are a few RCL clubs that are moving to more technical training that have very good coaching staff in place. Seattle United is one such club making huge strides in technical training. In europe it is 4 to 5 training sessions for every game, here in the USA it is 2 training sessions for every game on average. I realize that 75% of the youth players are hoping to just make the high school team, what about the other 25% that want to play college soccer and even dream of a professional career. 

Are you kidding? The entire state system is focused on the top of the pyramid. The top 5% that go on to play college soccer (25%, ha) and the top .05% that go on to play pro have more than enough energy and time focused their direction. That top cream of the crop has their pick of excellent technical training across the state an any level. The whole concept of "seamless soccer" is designed to give the best players an immediate vector to the top (if their parents can afford it) of the pyramid. Most of those teams have 3 training sessions per week and give players the opportunity to attend additional training at their discretion (friday technical skills sessions, goalie camps, etc).

What's truly underserved is the player and family and group of players that don't want to deposit their entire lives and family budget at the alter of youth soccer, yet wants to go as far as their ability and desire provide. That player and family or team is the one bumping up against the ceiling of "seamless soccer" at every turn because the entire system is geared to driving players away from select and lower level premier clubs into the RCL.

[soccerpride]

@metz123 you have some really good points here. It is getting more and more expensive as time goes by.

[ThiKuBC]

@left field @ der kaiser. Yer both absolutely ridiculous. What a couple of tools. Those extrapolations and assumptions you've made of my post are completely out of "left field" to say the least. At least your monicker fits. Wow is all I can say.

ps-Left field - I have never EVER said kids should be banned from playing for other teams for switching mid season. Never.

Wow, you two are on fire.

I didn't think that kind of level of assumption was possible here.

@ Metz - spot on. Same in this part of the world.

[Der Kaiser]

Metz- I'm not saying 25% will make it to the college level, but that approximately 25% have desire and aspirations to play college/professional soccer one day. I agree 5% may be the lucky one to move on...The repetitive technical training needs to take place at U10-U14 or your lost if you have such desire to play college. There are too many politics involved with most RCL and Select teams to better the Youth soccer training and game and a lot has to do with money. If you are not RCL 1 or 2, than club teams should be classified as Select. This would create a desire for teams and players to get to the top of the pyramid in the U-11 to U-17 age groups.

Look at Tacoma United, they can compete with half or more of the RCL teams and are getting great technical training for a fraction of the cost of the RCL clubs. There should be more scholarships at the various clubs, players of any age group should be based on player ability, desire, and ethics. There are a lot of youth players that aren't techincal or fast enough that are on teams because of checkbooks and politics.

[Left Foot]

@left field @ der kaiser. Yer both absolutely ridiculous. What a couple of tools. Those extrapolations and assumptions you've made of my post are completely out of "left field" to say the least. At least your monicker fits. Wow is all I can say.

ps-Left field - I have never EVER said kids should be banned from playing for other teams for switching mid season. Never.

Wow, you two are on fire.

I didn't think that kind of level of assumption was possible here.

@ Metz - spot on. Same in this part of the world.

You in an earlier thread on commitment:

“What are the regulations for switching clubs?

In BC you have to have signatures of registrars, league officials, parents, coaches etc....takes a while. In-season moves are extremely rare. Not to mention the very real threat and punishments that come with "poaching" allegations and confirmations of those allegations.

In 8 years I've had one player switch in-season. If players are unhappy and don't want to play for a team they basically have to wait until the following season or play at a lower level within the same club.

Loyalty however is fleeting these days it seems.”

[tripleplay]

I am not sure what Der Kaiser is talking about but the single biggest change in Washington soccer in the past few years is that a lot more young people are getting a lot more technical training than they used to. It's not like the old days where "serious" soccer was reserved for the biggest and fastest U12s whose background was rec.

If his beef is that most people aren't training 4 times a week (there are some BTW) it's because that's not what most people want.

[EWSoccer64]

Really TP?   How are a lot more young people getting a lot more technical training than they used to?  Show us the stats, oh great fantasy BB leaguer!  Just because someone is now signed up with an state certified RCL franchise at U-9 does not mean that they are getting any better training than they used to. 
Proof your latest assertation!

I am not sure what Der Kaiser is talking about but the single biggest change in Washington soccer in the past few years is that a lot more young people are getting a lot more technical training than they used to. It's not like the old days where "serious" soccer was reserved for the biggest and fastest U12s whose background was rec.

If his beef is that most people aren't training 4 times a week (there are some BTW) it's because that's not what most people want.

[Der Kaiser]

In order to properly develop youth players and excel in soccer there should be 4 to 5 practices for every game. Too many RCL coaches in particular are over-extended with taking on and coaching three to four teams. Hence, players and parents get two watered down practices per week. Why? $$$$$ to the detriment of youth technical development in the USA at most Premier clubs. Any club DOC should limit the coaches to two teams. Anyone not agreeing, take a trip to europe and visit the youth academies in Germany, Italy, Spain, and England.

There it is free!

[EWSoccer64]

In order to properly develop youth players and excel in soccer there should be 4 to 5 practices for every game. Too many RCL coaches in particular are over-extended with taking on and coaching three to four teams. Hence, players and parents get two watered down practices per week. Why? $$$$$ to the detriment of youth technical development in the USA at most Premier clubs. Any club DOC should limit the coaches to two teams. Anyone not agreeing, take a trip to europe and visit the youth academies in Germany, Italy, Spain, and England.

There it is free!

+1

[tripleplay]

In order to properly develop youth players and excel in soccer there should be 4 to 5 practices for every game. Too many RCL coaches in particular are over-extended with taking on and coaching three to four teams. Hence, players and parents get two watered down practices per week. Why? $$$$$ to the detriment of youth technical development in the USA at most Premier clubs. Any club DOC should limit the coaches to two teams. Anyone not agreeing, take a trip to europe and visit the youth academies in Germany, Italy, Spain, and England.

There it is free!

Regular youth teams do not practice 4-5 times per week in Europe. Their schedules are similar to what we have. The biggest difference is that there will be playing opportunities outside of structured club settings, so they get their hours another way. You seem to be talking about professional programs that only affect a handful of kids and that are heavily subsidized by the adult game.

If you want everyone in Washington to practice 4 times per week, be prepared to go out and build twice as many fields
and to pay twice what we currently pay. That option is already present here for those who wish to use it. I think there are keepers who'd welcome a reduction to only 4 days a week!

[Der Kaiser]

Some time ago in the USA, a majority of youth soccer coaches, got the idea to coach two practices per week per team that a big pay check could be had even if inferior in ability to deal with youth development, let alone training techniques to improve players. I agree that at U-11 thru U13 two to three practices per week and that U-14 thru U-17 four practices per week. A good case study is to look at other sports (basketball, baseball, football) Do you think these kid's are practicing just 2 times per week at age 13? No way, they are finding ways to practice 5 to 6 days per week. DOC's listen- advise coaching staff they only get 2 teams and must train more technique and don't rest on the laurels of a D,C, B license. Get off your arse and get the next highest license and get some reading on human youth growth and physcological development, instead of yelling and taking hard earned money away from parents and not developing better youth players. A good book to read for all coaches is Zero Regrets, Be greater than yesterday by Apolo Ohno. On the flip side, parents- a infinite amount of money will not make your kid better without a good gene pool and desire by your child.There are numerous B team players in RCL that are better and have more desire that should be on A teams. You see this every weekend.