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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 01:09:13 PM »

About time.   ;D

Will Terry Fisher get another raise this year?

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 02:56:01 PM »

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 02:59:54 PM »

Now I know why no decisions are getting done in Federal Way about the players and their safety this weekend?  They had to get their press release out.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 03:46:59 PM »

Now I know why no decisions are getting done in Federal Way about the players and their safety this weekend?  They had to get their press release out.

WSYSA is downsizing.  The player fee increase is coming up, most likely it will fail in dramatic style as last year.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2012, 03:53:25 PM »

Now I know why no decisions are getting done in Federal Way about the players and their safety this weekend?  They had to get their press release out.

WSYSA is downsizing.  The player fee increase is coming up, most likely it will fail in dramatic style as last year.

Wow - your full of BS meter must be flashing. Gary is leaving for a great opportunity, and did some great things for coaching education. There's no indication of an increase, and no indication of "downsizing". But hey, enjoy the WYS bashing if it makes you happy.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2012, 06:30:47 PM »

Now I know why no decisions are getting done in Federal Way about the players and their safety this weekend?  They had to get their press release out.

WSYSA is downsizing.  The player fee increase is coming up, most likely it will fail in dramatic style as last year.

Wow - your full of BS meter must be flashing. Gary is leaving for a great opportunity, and did some great things for coaching education. There's no indication of an increase, and no indication of "downsizing". But hey, enjoy the WYS bashing if it makes you happy.

Hey Pops, I found the BS meter....  www.wsysa.com

Here are the accomplishments that Gary achieved while with WSYSA: (cut/pasted)

When White joined Washington Youth Soccer he hit the ground running and in just a few short years has brought the organization to the forefront of player and coaching development in the country. He created a completely new level of programming and philosophical guidance for development. He has developed and executed a world class coaching education program, created the Long Term Player Development plan – a guide for providing player-centric and age appropriate training at all ages and levels of the game, implemented the Regional Club League Junior Academy program and created and established the now nationally renowned Elite Player Development program. During Gary’s term, the number of coaches participating in coaching education has increased by 40%.

“The contributions of Gary White to Washington Youth Soccer have been instrumental in our success both on the pitch and in the education of our coaches and membership, said Doug Andreassen, President Washington Youth Soccer.” Andreassen continues, “His commitment to our communities and players was above and beyond the call of duty. Gary's drive for achievement is surpassed only by his vision and determination to create a better environment for every player. His continued desire to serve as a Technical Advisor to our programs is a further testament to his belief in our purpose and organization.

During his time, White also cultivated a strong technical department staff, creating integral staff positions of Technical Administrator to manage all technical department administration, Regional Development Officers to standardize and streamline the state’s coaching education instructors, and Competition Development Manager to oversee all tournament administration. Under White’s guidance, this team works cohesively to ensure that proper player development philosophy is followed and implemented in all aspects of the game – from coaching curriculum to game-day management. With this team and philosophy in place, Washington Youth Soccer is positioned to continue raising the bar and creating better opportunities for youth players.

“The improvements made in the 27 months Gary has been the Technical Director of Washington Youth Soccer have set a new standard of excellence and expectations for our programs and athletes. Gary has instituted an international level of quality and content in our educational programs that will benefit all our members for years to come, stated Washington Youth Soccer CEO, Terry Fisher.

Fisher continues “The educational foundation in place for our recreational players will continue to provide a platform of opportunity that will translate through the seamless soccer system. The sheer amount of intellectual coaching product that he has created for Washington Youth Soccer is simply unmatched by any Technical Director in the country."


I heard everyone at Snohomish United fell in love with him (after he left). Gary took Snohomish United to the pinnacle of soccer.  Under Gary's direction "Snohomish united was unmatched by anyone in the country."

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2012, 09:25:57 PM »

Pops,

The WSYSA downsizing budget items are posted.

Total budget drop is over 400k.  See posting, or budget at www.wsysa.com

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2012, 09:33:18 PM »

Now I know why no decisions are getting done in Federal Way about the players and their safety this weekend?  They had to get their press release out.

WSYSA is downsizing.  The player fee increase is coming up, most likely it will fail in dramatic style as last year.

Wow - your full of BS meter must be flashing. Gary is leaving for a great opportunity, and did some great things for coaching education. There's no indication of an increase, and no indication of "downsizing". But hey, enjoy the WYS bashing if it makes you happy.
Guam's gain is our loss.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2012, 11:51:18 PM »

Pops,

The WSYSA downsizing budget items are posted.

Total budget drop is over 400k.  See posting, or budget at www.wsysa.com



A reduced budget is not "downsizing" - and the release specifies the search for Gary's replacement.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 12:22:24 AM »

Seriously Pops?

Trust me, cutting the budget 14%, - $425,000.00, is downsizing.

I realize WSYSA press release stated that Gary White produced enormous growth... but the actual numbers refute the propaganda.

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 12:43:59 AM »

I wonder if Bobbie Howe will take the pieces of silver and return?

And before anyone gasps that it could never happen, please consider:

1)  Howe is a well known, well respected coach and director of coaching.
2)  He has published books (with Tony Waiters) that showed a concept of age appropriate developement.   (And if you do not read Dutch, you might think that the ideas came from those two rather than being translated.)
3)  He was integral to the launch of widespread USCS operations in this state, and his defection back to the state would be important in slowing or stopping the exodus of clubs and teams out of WYS and into the USCS operations.
4)  He knows where the bodies are buried.
5)  Jan would love to see him back in the fold.
6)   SYSA would scream like a stuck pig, but they are so intertwined with El Presidente that they cannot divorce themselves with him/
7)   He would provide a counterweight to Bernie James and the Big Club Coaches.
8)   He can do an effective job as Director of Coaching.
9)  Howe is loyal to those who pay him.  There should be every expectation that if he were given the position, he would do his utmost to promote the agenda of those paying him.
10)  He has the credentials to make WYS look good.

Remember the old adage "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer".   There is alot to be said, politically, for hiring Howe to replace White.   Including Howe's age, now in the upper 60's.  It would seem that his empire building days are behind him.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 05:00:45 AM »

I don't see being head coach of the Guam national team as upgrading.  There's more players in King County.
Was DOC of Snohomish an upgrade from head coach of the Bahamas?

I like the little he did that actually pertains to the teams in my club, but mostly he was invisible to the majority of the state.  He was all about the RCL and EPD.  He made some neat videos, but charging $30 for the MOD modules was a major mistake. We paid him to develop them for us.  That information needs to be provided for free to the new parents that are stepping up to coach the vast majority of kids coming into soccer.  Improving coaching is the primary reason we pay a State Coach, hanging with those that are already quality coaches or coaching the ODP team are perks.

He probably knew that.

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 01:23:24 PM »

I don't see being head coach of the Guam national team as upgrading.  There's more players in King County.
Was DOC of Snohomish an upgrade from head coach of the Bahamas?

I like the little he did that actually pertains to the teams in my club, but mostly he was invisible to the majority of the state.  He was all about the RCL and EPD.  He made some neat videos, but charging $30 for the MOD modules was a major mistake. We paid him to develop them for us.  That information needs to be provided for free to the new parents that are stepping up to coach the vast majority of kids coming into soccer.  Improving coaching is the primary reason we pay a State Coach, hanging with those that are already quality coaches or coaching the ODP team are perks.

He probably knew that.


GW was his own propaganda machine. And, probably the worst coach my kid ever had.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 02:16:45 PM »

Pops,

Not to pop your Gary White bubble... word is he edited his own press release announcement.

What's your opinion that what Gary produced for WSYSA was unmatched by ANYONE in the country?

You care to plug that statement in your BS meter??

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 03:38:31 PM »

Pops,

Not to pop your Gary White bubble... word is he edited his own press release announcement.

What's your opinion that what Gary produced for WSYSA was unm. atched by ANYONE in the country?

You care to plug that statement in your BS meter??



Word from who?

And really, that's a big deal? Find me a company where that, doesn't happen.

On the "unmatched" statement, I'd say any statement like that is over the top - but I'd also say that the availability of curriculum and the model for delivery improved dramatically.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2012, 06:38:09 PM »

Addition by subtraction.

I can't believe that EW actually had some good things to say about Bobby Howe!

If you believe that he increased the number of coaches educated by 40%, you've never heard of "how to lie with statistics". Maybe those were coaches educated on how not to trust WYS.

Just make sure that there is no "lemon law" on the deal with Guam- NO givebacks!
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2012, 08:55:51 PM »

Pops,

Not to pop your Gary White bubble... word is he edited his own press release announcement.

What's your opinion that what Gary produced for WSYSA was unmatched by ANYONE in the country?

You care to plug that statement in your BS meter??

Word from who?

And really, that's a big deal? Find me a company where that, doesn't happen.

On the "unmatched" statement, I'd say any statement like that is over the top - but I'd also say that the availability of curriculum and the model for delivery improved dramatically.

Pops,

WSYSA owes Snohomish United $$ for having Gary White under contract as a DOC, when in actual fact he was working on his marketing "player development" plan for WSYSA.  Either WSYSA pays Snohomish back his DOC contracted amount or WSYSA should turn over all the materials that Gary White produced prior to his official hire date at WSYSA.

Doug allowed Gary White to contractually state the terms for leaving, which included the press release, call him.  Also, when you are on the phone with Doug, tell him you have an idea that will save WSYSA at least 100k.

Idea:

Advertise for a new CEO at WSYSA.

Terms 120k/year
Car and Cell phone expenses
2 weeks vacation (almost laughable as nearly every Friday the place is empty)

This idea will save 100k for 2012/13 year, and I guarantee you a ton of very qualified USSF A and UEFA A with MBA's will be lining up to interview.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2012, 10:57:43 PM »

Reading the WYS soccer statement, you'd think he'd be the next US national team coach.  Guam is such a step down for him.

But, I'm sure he'll skyrocket them up the national rankings (from say 192nd to dare I say, 176?). And in 3 years use this as his latest "achievement".

Gary, your Special!!!!
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 12:43:48 PM »

Look through the world cup history and see how many coaches coached teams that did not belong and yet made a little ( although not Gaum)  noise.

How many folks can say they coached a national team, even if it is Gaum, you are not going to get a top 30 team with out some History.

Comments about what he did or did not do are okay but why not back up statements with facts like somefolks do.

To say hes has done more then any other State DOC is what bothers me, Idaho had one, they brought small side soccer to us, cal north had one that brought some great videos on coaching education.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2012, 01:04:49 PM »

Look through the world cup history and see how many coaches coached teams that did not belong and yet made a little ( although not Gaum)  noise.

How many folks can say they coached a national team, even if it is Gaum, you are not going to get a top 30 team with out some History.

Comments about what he did or did not do are okay but why not back up statements with facts like somefolks do.

To say hes has done more then any other State DOC is what bothers me, Idaho had one they brought small side soccer us, cal north had one that brought some great videos on coaching education.
I remember when he was being considered for Snohomish, one of his "achievements" listed was moving the Bahamian national team up the rankings something like 30 places. Which basically equates to winning a couple of scrimmages when your ranked 180th.
Snohomish drank the koolaid, so did WYSA.
Prediction-I give him 2 years at Guam, he'll issue a masterful press release, then take a job somewhere like Chicago...... England doesn't want him back.
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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2012, 01:32:17 PM »

Let's keep this thread away from prospective applicants.  ;)

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Re: Gary White leaves
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2012, 06:08:34 PM »

Let's keep this thread away from prospective applicants.  ;)

I think that should be up to lester, he started the post.
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