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[chapsasoccerdad]

Good luck.

[sounderfan]

 

Details?

http://mtrainier.bonzidev.com/home.php

 

[Brat Jr]

 Where do you get your information???
Besides, our AGM isn't even until the 14th...

[mhall]

B Jr. would know!!

[new2me]

whether its official yet or not, have heard for some time that this has been coming. 

[Brat Jr]

whether its official yet or not, have heard for some time that this has been coming. 

NOTHING is written in stone.
Whatever happens will happen at the AGM, not before and not fueled by rumors....


I will probably be the first to post about whatever happens 

[ritz bitz]

What ever happens will happen - just hoping all the kids land on teams that fit them, can continue to play and we are not cutting more kids who want to play out.

[erickb]

This has been unofficial for a while now, while I will agree nothing is set in stone I can’t imagine that something will change before the AGM. Anyone that is or has been in the clubs involves knows this and it is not a secret. I wish all the best for the clubs involved.

[sidelinerdad]

As we have all seen with the recent mergers/alliances - Presidents of Associations write up something and release it.  So, keep an eye out for that official document - not some posting on this board.

[bigb]

This looks like the start....

Dear Members,

Monday evening, January 9th, Mt Rainier Futbol Club (MRFC) held its Annual General Meeting. At this meeting the voting members present voted unanimously, one abstained, to adopt a comprehensive amended and restated bylaws which removed any requirement for MRFC to be affiliated with the Mount Rainier Soccer Association (MRSA) or Washington Youth Soccer (WYS).  Accordingly, this afternoon the MRFC Board of Directors advised MRSA that it has terminated its relationship with MRSA and WYS.

On behalf of the MRFC Board of Directors I am pleased to announce, that henceforth, MRFC will solely be a member of US Club Soccer. The MRFC Board of Directors verily believes that the mission and philosophy of US Club Soccer to create, develop, and grow the best USSF-sanctioned organizations and foster the growth and development of club soccer by allowing clubs the flexibility to build programs that meet their needs best represents and supports our objectives.

The MRFC Board of Directors is committed to the development of all players to their fullest potential, while supporting soccer at every level.  

MRFC is proud to announce that it has partnered with Coerver Coaching NW.  Coerver Coaching is world renowned for its individual skill development, small group play teaching methods, and is endorsed by federations, association, experts and clubs world wide. Coerver Coaching NW is committed to MRFC and its goal to develop youth soccer players of all ages in southeast Pierce and King Counties to their fullest potential.

In parting, it is my ultimate goal as the President of MRFC to create a “Club Culture”. I want to create a program where families grow up learning to play and love the game of soccer the way it was meant to be and have the ability to return as adults to continue to play the game, perhaps even become coaches, and raise their families in MRFC enabling a “Members for life” culture within club.

Thank you for all of your support in the months leading to this transition.

Sincerely,

Bob Kocher

President

[sidelinerdad]

That is just MRFC - there are still a few more clubs under the MRSA umbrella. 

[bigb]

Most clubs do not post minutes when big mergers are in talks... SH and SSC have not posted minutes since November.  IF SSC, PSC, SH, OSC leave, there will not be much left to govern for MRSA...

[sidelinerdad]

Most clubs do not post minutes when big mergers are in talks... SH and SSC have not posted minutes since November.  IF SSC, PSC, SH, OSC leave, there will not be much left to govern for MRSA...

Not minutes, a letter to the parents/members- DOS/GRFC recently did it.

[Futsal]

That is just MRFC - there are still a few more clubs under the MRSA umbrella. 

US Club went through all the trouble of fighting for a participants right to dual affiliate.  I find it odd that Clubs now feel that limiting their teams right to participate within US Soccer by only affiliating with one national organization is the right way to go.  

If the remaining members of MRSA should decide that its in their best interest not to continue the Association ... WYS soccer will still exist for that area.  Association boundaries will simply get shifted, remaining clubs would probably be invited to join the Association now serving the area ... and maybe the kids in this area will now be in an Association who has a Regional Club.

MRSA can still

- Remain an Association without MRFC

- Negotiate with a neighboring Association to come up with a way to transfer governance in an organized manner to that Association.  This would include knowing in advance the fate of existing clubs since they would be involved in the negotiations.  There is no reason these clubs could exist under a different Association.

- Choose to dissolve the Association.  

Ultimately ... options are in the hands of the remaining members of MRSA.

[tripleplay]

US Club went through all the trouble of fighting for a participants right to dual affiliate.  I find it odd that Clubs now feel that limiting their teams right to participate within US Soccer by only affiliating with one national organization is the right way to go.  

Please take the time to figure out why it is not odd. Americans are accustomed to the principle of self government. WYS does not allow clubs, i.e. actual soccer providers, to join and have rights.  Instead a provider's membership in WYS is at the mercy of "their" Association - which only accidentally has the same interests as the club and in some famous examples is outright hostile to it. From the point of the view of the club and the players it represents, the cost - losing the ability to govern itself - is too high. WYS needs to welcome all providers - not simply those who are the favorites of some unrepresentative political class.

[BigBilly]

Where do you get your information???
Besides, our AGM isn't even until the 14th...

LOL Right on Mr. Hall

[Brat Jr]

That is just MRFC - there are still a few more clubs under the MRSA umbrella. 

US Club went through all the trouble of fighting for a participants right to dual affiliate.  I find it odd that Clubs now feel that limiting their teams right to participate within US Soccer by only affiliating with one national organization is the right way to go.  

If the remaining members of MRSA should decide that its in their best interest not to continue the Association ... WYS soccer will still exist for that area.  Association boundaries will simply get shifted, remaining clubs would probably be invited to join the Association now serving the area ... and maybe the kids in this area will now be in an Association who has a Regional Club.

MRSA can still

- Remain an Association without MRFC

- Negotiate with a neighboring Association to come up with a way to transfer governance in an organized manner to that Association.  This would include knowing in advance the fate of existing clubs since they would be involved in the negotiations.  There is no reason these clubs could exist under a different Association.

- Choose to dissolve the Association.  

Ultimately ... options are in the hands of the remaining members of MRSA.

Thanks Futsal.
Because of ongoing talks within MRSA, I cannot comment on what is being said or done by anyone in our association.
What I can say is that since nothing is written in stone, there is NO WAY TO KNOW what will happen at the AGM.
I'll just be very thankful when soccer is behind me and my life can resume to normal.

[BigBilly]

Orting has left, Sumner has left, MRFC has left, and Cascade has left.....Uh; the only one left is MRSA and what are they going to do, govern themselves? I understand the letter has yet to make it official but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck.  

This is not rocket science; MRSA is going, going, gone.

[chapsasoccerdad]

Orting has left, Sumner has left, MRFC has left, and Cascade has left.....Uh; the only one left is MRSA and what are they going to do, govern themselves? I understand the letter has yet to make it official but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck.  

This is not rocket science; MRSA is going, going, gone.

Correct Big Billy - from what I know they just have one mtg left to finalize everything then bye bye MRSA. QUACK!!

[Brat Jr]

Orting has left, Sumner has left, MRFC has left, and Cascade has left.....Uh; the only one left is MRSA and what are they going to do, govern themselves? I understand the letter has yet to make it official but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck.  

This is not rocket science; MRSA is going, going, gone.

UGHHHHHHHHHHHH! I FRIGGEN GIVE UP!

[sidelinerdad]

QUACK!!!!!!

[BigBilly]

From Redkard:

"MRSA is dissolving.  Sumner and Orting would then be left without a way to affiliate the teams within the current WYS structure.  Thus it was voted upon to welcome them into the TPCJSA family.  It was a logical choice since they are on the border of our northeast clubs.

TPCJSA welcomes them with open arms and welcome the opportunity to work with them as we do what we can to put children on the field at the appropriate levels of play.

We are just volunteers trying to keep things simple!"

So like I said, Quack! Quack! 

I know it's not official Brat, I'm just having fun on this boring Thursday.   

[new2me]

not trying to charge rumors, just understand what is being anticipated...so MRSA dissolves/disbands, but MRFC is sticking around as a US Club affiliated select program, which is where the select kids from Sumner, Orting, Cascade Foothills were already being funneled to anyway, right?  So basically, other than affiliation, and the turnover that happens most years anyway, good chance same number of teams for same number of kids?

[Futsal]

not trying to charge rumors, just understand what is being anticipated...so MRSA dissolves/disbands, but MRFC is sticking around as a US Club affiliated select program, which is where the select kids from Sumner, Orting, Cascade Foothills were already being funneled to anyway, right?  So basically, other than affiliation, and the turnover that happens most years anyway, good chance same number of teams for same number of kids?

There probably be a WYS select option there soon as well ...

[chapsasoccerdad]

not trying to charge rumors, just understand what is being anticipated...so MRSA dissolves/disbands, but MRFC is sticking around as a US Club affiliated select program, which is where the select kids from Sumner, Orting, Cascade Foothills were already being funneled to anyway, right?  So basically, other than affiliation, and the turnover that happens most years anyway, good chance same number of teams for same number of kids?

That is the way is was supposed to work, however, because MRFC made poor decision after poor decision - when it was time for the kids to go to MRFC, they chose to go to a different club or just stay rec with their current club.  Year after year the kids in that area left that area to go to other clubs.  You had the potential for a good club for the kids to be a part of, and the MRFC board basically took it and blew it up.  Their tryouts were a joke compared to neighboring clubs and parents took notice.  

[sidelinerdad]

not trying to charge rumors, just understand what is being anticipated...so MRSA dissolves/disbands, but MRFC is sticking around as a US Club affiliated select program, which is where the select kids from Sumner, Orting, Cascade Foothills were already being funneled to anyway, right?  So basically, other than affiliation, and the turnover that happens most years anyway, good chance same number of teams for same number of kids?

There probably be a WYS select option there soon as well ...

doubtful

[mhall]

Dang ducks!!  I hate Oregon!  Oh, wrong subject!

[chapsasoccerdad]

Dang ducks!!  I hate Oregon!  Oh, wrong subject!

QUACK! LOL!

[BigBilly]

That is exactly what happened to us, that’s why we play at FWFC; and for the record I hate the ducks, but it was fitting for this thread. 

not trying to charge rumors, just understand what is being anticipated...so MRSA dissolves/disbands, but MRFC is sticking around as a US Club affiliated select program, which is where the select kids from Sumner, Orting, Cascade Foothills were already being funneled to anyway, right?  So basically, other than affiliation, and the turnover that happens most years anyway, good chance same number of teams for same number of kids?

That is the way is was supposed to work, however, because MRFC made poor decision after poor decision - when it was time for the kids to go to MRFC, they chose to go to a different club or just stay rec with their current club.  Year after year the kids in that area left that area to go to other clubs.  You had the potential for a good club for the kids to be a part of, and the MRFC board basically took it and blew it up.  Their tryouts were a joke compared to neighboring clubs and parents took notice.  

[BigBilly]

More than likely yes, but time will tell with their numbers; some kids will move on to a premiere program like WPFC/FWFC or Slammers.  If they fix what's broke they may be able to retain some of the top talent from moving on to other clubs; it's been an issue for years so it may take some time to heal.

You basically have the right idea though.   

not trying to charge rumors, just understand what is being anticipated...so MRSA dissolves/disbands, but MRFC is sticking around as a US Club affiliated select program, which is where the select kids from Sumner, Orting, Cascade Foothills were already being funneled to anyway, right?  So basically, other than affiliation, and the turnover that happens most years anyway, good chance same number of teams for same number of kids?