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« on: July 03, 2006, 06:48:58 PM »

Okay Mufasa Clan,
Here's rankings for GU-11.

Remember, these are strictly by numbers from tournament play only.  I didn't research any friendlies.  If you know of a legitimate friendly that should be included, PM me the result and I'll plug it in.

1.   FCV Courage
2.   Auburn Strikers
3.   WPFC Black
4.   ECFC Green
5.   EFC Red
6.   Kent Fusion
7.   Crossfire Thomas
8.   FC Crush Schoales
9.   Marysville Force
10. CB United
11. Mukilteo Angels
12. FCV Glory
13. WSM Strikers
14. Patriots Blue
15. Spartans
16. Eagles Danielson
17. Nemesis
18. Crossfire Schmetzer
19. FWU Reign Purple
20. Thunderballs
21. NWN Red
22. Columbia Timbers Royal
23. Dos Red
24. Silver Lake Venom
25. Kajumulo Farasi
26. WPFC White
27. Mukilteo Storm
28. Eagles G.
29. Snohomish Pingrey
30. Shoreline Sapphires
31. Bainbridge Blitz
32. Crossfire Barton
33. Heartbreakers White
34. EFC 95 Development
35. Crossfire Select Hill
36. Cascade Select Stikers
37. FC Alliance Gold
38. FWU Reign White
39. Crossfire Redwine
40. Aanvallen Green
41. ECFC White
42. Skagit Storm Red
43. CW Fire
44. MRFC Cosmos
45. WV United
46. FC Crush Lowe
47. Crossfire Stauber
48. Eastside Blue
49. SSSFC Strikers
50. Badger FC
51. NWN Blue
52. WPFC Gold
53. Patriots Red
54. Northside Ravens
55. Extreme White
56. Norpoint Spirit
57. Dos White
58. SC Eclipse
59. FC Alliance Blue
60. FC Alliance White
61. NK Magic
62. Shooting Stars
63. Force Mellick
64. Bainbridge Tsunami
65. South Kitsap
66. NWN White
67. NK Blast
68. Dragonflies
69. Silver Lake Bulldogs
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 07:37:32 PM »

Thanks BC! Looks good all the way through
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2006, 08:03:59 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2006, 09:01:42 PM »

Where's Westsound?//
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2006, 10:08:24 PM »

Where's Bozo  :shock:

JK

The list looks great.  Takes lots of work to put that together.

Thanks BC  ;)
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2006, 10:48:59 PM »

IF you are going by tournament results only how can you drop EFC to #5.  I know you are not counting friendlies but in the last EFC vs. WPFC Black it was 2-0.  Not sure how youcan always put EFC in the mid to low range of top 10. The fact that they have only played one tournament is the coaches choice but shouldn't drop them in the rankings.    As a parent it is kind of nice to not have these girls playing every tournament as they are still 9 and 10 year old girls who are not going to be burned out by September.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2006, 10:59:33 PM »

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IF you are going by tournament results only how can you drop EFC to #5.  I know you are not counting friendlies but in the last EFC vs. WPFC Black it was 2-0.  Not sure how youcan always put EFC in the mid to low range of top 10. The fact that they have only played one tournament is the coaches choice but shouldn't drop them in the rankings.    As a parent it is kind of nice to not have these girls playing every tournament as they are still 9 and 10 year old girls who are not going to be burned out by September.


...aahhhhhhhhhh..an EFC CP :lol:  :lol:

In BC's poll, you gotta play to get your place.  :twisted:  :twisted:
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2006, 11:08:04 PM »

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Where's Westsound?//

Based on the teams ranked (and those omitted) perhaps the results of the Harbor Tyee Cup were not entered.  No Harbor, Westsound, Nortac Teams, SSSFC Orion

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IF you are going by tournament results only how can you drop EFC to #5. I know you are not counting friendlies but in the last EFC vs. WPFC Black it was 2-0. Not sure how youcan always put EFC in the mid to low range of top 10. The fact that they have only played one tournament is the coaches choice but shouldn't drop them in the rankings. As a parent it is kind of nice to not have these girls playing every tournament as they are still 9 and 10 year old girls who are not going to be burned out by September.

BC is not personally ranking the teams.  He's using a super secret, ultra complex algorithm that is based on who-played-who and margin of victory and the moon phase on the day of the game (I heard it takes 4-computers 6-days to finish just one weeks calculations) . These "rankings" are only as good as the data entered, and when there isn't alot of it available (1 tourney for EFC), BC can't be blamed for where he "ranked" the said team.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2006, 12:16:16 AM »

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IF you are going by tournament results only how can you drop EFC to #5.  I know you are not counting friendlies but in the last EFC vs. WPFC Black it was 2-0.  Not sure how youcan always put EFC in the mid to low range of top 10. The fact that they have only played one tournament is the coaches choice but shouldn't drop them in the rankings.    As a parent it is kind of nice to not have these girls playing every tournament as they are still 9 and 10 year old girls who are not going to be burned out by September.


Well, if you're going to bring up PDL games left footed one, then you need to also mention the other two encounters that WPFC Black had with EFC...remember the one you lost 7-1, or the 1-1 tie game?  Point is if you're going to bring up one friendly, then also mention the other matchups out of fairness.   :twisted:

I guess you gave Mufasa the "gold standard" on the other thread because he had you listed No. 1.  LOL  :lol:   In any case, I tend to agree with your comments regarding how good Mufasa's rankings are (but it's still just as interesting to see BC's too  :mrgreen: ), but maybe not for the same reasons.  I think computer programs are a great gut check on "people rankings", but they often times cannot account for the intangibles.  BC is providing a great service to us, i.e. giving us that statistical gut check.
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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2006, 01:20:51 AM »

I think that BC ranikings are pretty straight forward if you are going by how these top teams have played in the very recent past! Keep up the good work to all of you who take the time to follow all of these teams standings.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 11:56:20 AM »

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Where's Westsound?//

Based on the teams ranked (and those omitted) perhaps the results of the Harbor Tyee Cup were not entered.  No Harbor, Westsound, Nortac Teams, SSSFC Orion

Anybody have results from GU-11 Tyee Cup?  PM me and I'll get them plugged in.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2006, 01:23:51 PM »

Personally I think you might want to stop putting those blue chips in your cookies!!!  This list is way off!   :shock:
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2006, 01:34:33 PM »

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Personally I think you might want to stop putting those blue chips in your cookies!!!  This list is way off!   :shock:


That ranking is based purly on a formula....numbers only.  No personal bias.

Lets say a team wins a tournament and gets (guessing) 25 ranking points for it, but that's the only tournament they play in.

Another team is tourny crazy and has played in 4 so far.  Each tournament doing just ok but earning 8 points per tourny for goals scored and a few wins...etc.  They would have 32 ranking points and be ranked higher then the team that won it's only tournament.

Not totally fair, but by the numbers would be the way it is.

Remember, rankings are fun....that's all.  Trophys are bragging rights and placing high in the fall also tells it all. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2006, 01:55:55 PM »

BC you DA MAN too :mrgreen:

Thanks for posting the list! :D:D:D
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2006, 02:22:48 PM »

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Where's Westsound?//

Based on the teams ranked (and those omitted) perhaps the results of the Harbor Tyee Cup were not entered.  No Harbor, Westsound, Nortac Teams, SSSFC Orion

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IF you are going by tournament results only how can you drop EFC to #5. I know you are not counting friendlies but in the last EFC vs. WPFC Black it was 2-0. Not sure how youcan always put EFC in the mid to low range of top 10. The fact that they have only played one tournament is the coaches choice but shouldn't drop them in the rankings. As a parent it is kind of nice to not have these girls playing every tournament as they are still 9 and 10 year old girls who are not going to be burned out by September.

BC is not personally ranking the teams.  He's using a super secret, ultra complex algorithm that is based on who-played-who and margin of victory and the moon phase on the day of the game (I heard it takes 4-computers 6-days to finish just one weeks calculations) . These "rankings" are only as good as the data entered, and when there isn't alot of it available (1 tourney for EFC), BC can't be blamed for where he "ranked" the said team.
Here, Here, it takes alot of work to go to the moon and back :roll:
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 01:33:06 AM »

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Personally I think you might want to stop putting those blue chips in your cookies!!!  This list is way off!   :shock:


Sorry Tip, I can't remember which thread your list is on.  :oops:  
I'd like to compare the two. ;)
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2006, 01:42:22 AM »

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Quote from: "Tippy"
Personally I think you might want to stop putting those blue chips in your cookies!!!  This list is way off!   :shock:


That ranking is based purly on a formula....numbers only.  No personal bias.

Lets say a team wins a tournament and gets (guessing) 25 ranking points for it, but that's the only tournament they play in.

Another team is tourny crazy and has played in 4 so far.  Each tournament doing just ok but earning 8 points per tourny for goals scored and a few wins...etc.  They would have 32 ranking points and be ranked higher then the team that won it's only tournament.

Not totally fair, but by the numbers would be the way it is.

Remember, rankings are fun....that's all.  Trophys are bragging rights and placing high in the fall also tells it all. ;)



Actually my rankings aren't based on cumulative points, so it really doesn't matter how many tournaments or games you play.  It is based on averages of every game you play.  If you only play one game against a ranked team, you will get a value, but the more games you play, the more accurate your ranking will become.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2006, 01:51:22 AM »

#6 on BC's list - #22 on Mufasa's list :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2006, 01:52:11 AM »

Thanks On Frame, Miss America and Brat Jr. for the PM insights.
I'm not as familiar with the U-11's yet.  I appreciate the help. :)
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2006, 07:51:35 AM »

Quote from: "Blue Chip"
Quote from: "cheese"
Quote from: "Tippy"
Personally I think you might want to stop putting those blue chips in your cookies!!!  This list is way off!   :shock:


That ranking is based purly on a formula....numbers only.  No personal bias.

Lets say a team wins a tournament and gets (guessing) 25 ranking points for it, but that's the only tournament they play in.

Another team is tourny crazy and has played in 4 so far.  Each tournament doing just ok but earning 8 points per tourny for goals scored and a few wins...etc.  They would have 32 ranking points and be ranked higher then the team that won it's only tournament.

Not totally fair, but by the numbers would be the way it is.

Remember, rankings are fun....that's all.  Trophys are bragging rights and placing high in the fall also tells it all. ;)



Actually my rankings aren't based on cumulative points, so it really doesn't matter how many tournaments or games you play.  It is based on averages of every game you play.  If you only play one game against a ranked team, you will get a value, but the more games you play, the more accurate your ranking will become.


BC you are Da Man  :P

I don't mean you ARE Da Man but what I mean is You Da Man.....ohhhhhhh you know what I mean :roll:
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2006, 11:37:10 AM »

Quote from: "Con-Fusion 95"
#6 on BC's list - #22 on Mufasa's list :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Mufasa thought you'd like that! :lol: :lol: :lol: BC gunna be your buddy now. LOL

Mufasa think BC's list is great. Peeps who don't like it need to realize that more information makes the lists more accurate. So, the more we know the better our respective lists gunna be. That that :D:D:D
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2006, 12:50:04 AM »

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Quote from: "Con-Fusion 95"
#6 on BC's list - #22 on Mufasa's list :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


Mufasa thought you'd like that! :lol: :lol: :lol: BC gunna be your buddy now. LOL

Mufasa think BC's list is great. Peeps who don't like it need to realize that more information makes the lists more accurate. So, the more we know the better our respective lists gunna be. That that :D:D:D

I hear our coach likes it!  I just find it all humorous :lol: ---the Fusion DDs on 2 lists, how cool is that? :mrgreen:
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2006, 09:40:54 PM »

I'm torn on saying a thing in regard to standings, however if the rankings are based on tournement results, how can you have FCV ahead of EFC red when they played head to head with EFC winning in the Rainier challenge final? We (EFC red I'm out of the closet) also played WPFC black and won 2-0 two weeks ago at starfire in the PDL. You probably don't have access to that information. Bully for you for putting the list together.

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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2006, 11:21:03 PM »

Thanks fo comin' out da closet SA, hope ya feel much better ;)


D know that Heath and Honky do :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2006, 11:49:06 PM »

Blue Chip

Your list makes me smile....Great job and well done.
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« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2006, 11:51:27 PM »

Welcome aboard Smile :D   :D  :D
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2006, 12:46:23 AM »

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I'm torn on saying a thing in regard to standings, however if the rankings are based on tournement results, how can you have FCV ahead of EFC red when they played head to head with EFC winning in the Rainier challenge final? We (EFC red I'm out of the closet) also played WPFC black and won 2-0 two weeks ago at starfire in the PDL. You probably don't have access to that information. Bully for you for putting the list together.

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I'm having a flashback...LOL  :lol:  We've already covered this, i.e. see the post made by 2left feet and my reply on page 1.  If you're going to bring up PDL games, then you need to also mention the other two encounters that WPFC Black had with EFC...remember the one EFC lost to WPFC Black by a score of 7-1, or the 1-1 tie game? Point is SA, if you're going to bring up one of the PDL games (the one EFC won), then in all fairness you should also mention the other two matchups as well.  If this is a "what did you do yesterday rankings", then fine.  But, I'm under the impression it's a summation of all past performances.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2006, 02:56:05 AM »

Sure GD I understand what your saying, but it is all about what have you done lately? I mean sure the Huskies beat the Hurricanes a while back but I'm talkin about NOW. It's funny you told me that your girls energy was down and I agree that happens. You never did seem to mention that perhaps our team improved. The results speak for themselves. WPFC and EFC met 3 times during the PDL First meeting (EFC's first or second game together as a team), WPFC dominates 7-1 second meeting mid-season 2-2 tie (about the time EFC is running the table at Rainier cup), last meeting 2-0 shutout. Do you see a pattern developing here? Do you think just maybe one of these teams is getting better? Give credit where credit is due. I don't mind being in 5th position on someone's list, heck that is a complement, but it doesn't make any sense that we have beaten 2 of the teams ahead of us in head to head play in the last 2 months and we are behind them. Thanks for hearing me out.

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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2006, 03:08:43 AM »

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If this is a "what did you do yesterday rankings", then fine. But, I'm under the impression it's a summation of all past performances.

Correct me if I'm wrong but he titled it the "BCS rankings" BCS stands for "bowl coalition series" As far as I know if you lose in college football you move down the list. Anybody? However if it is a popularity contest....well EFC doesn't do very well in those :o

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« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2006, 08:59:25 AM »

Oh come now fella's (ladies?), both WPFC and EFC are great clubs with a great rivalry.  

Think both of your U11 teams will be there at the end when it counts ;)

Last year the 2 clubs played a lot of great games together and Dragon remember reading bout a lot o great times had by both clubs and friendly bets and payoffs between the two. (just ask soccer mama and gumby).

Hope you two can over look the small stuff and build a friendship like last years CP's.......  If you have hard time now it will only escalate in da years to come ;)
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