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[nosoupforU]

No soup--is this the tourney out in Beaverton at the amazing sports complex, kind of like ampitheatres around the fields, nice indoor basketball facility etc etc.  This tourney brings in amazing competition, nice fields, good reffing and great soccer experience.  This is definately a top notch tournement that should be emulated by the top Washington tourneys.  The big teams, as you say, should enjoy playing at this level of competition, even if they didn't advance.

no, you're thinking of the Beaverton Cup which if I remember is held at the Tualitin Hills rec center. Tualitin Hills United has their tourney in the same spot. And you're correct, it is a very nice complex.

The Nike Cup is Lake Oswego's Soccer club tourney. It's played at Lakeridge, Lake Oswego High, Lake Oswego Jr high, etc. It's a little more spread out, but alot of excellent competition. Alot of very good California teams.

[yote19]

Game #1:WPFC95Black(1)WS Metros(2)  
Game #2:WPFC95Black(1)Marrysville Force(0)
Game #3:WPFC95Black(3)DOS(0)

Championship round:WPFC95 Black (1) WS Metros (1):  
PK                             WPFC95Black(3) WS Metros(3)
Sudden death           WPFC95Black(2) WS Metros (1)
Champions WPFC 95 Black GU11(':)')
Beaverton Cup website posted inaccurate and incorrect.

Hard fought championship game by both team even though WS Metros clearly had  their home(':x') referee(':roll:') on their side(':!:')  WS Metros had lots of subs, while WPFC had only one sub in a brutally hot weather!

Deal with it by scoring more goals--quit your whiining.  You won the tourney, give your girls the credit by overcoming all of the difficulties of the weekend.  Good job team, poor sportsmanship parents.  Whose teaching the lessons?

Charlie is not whining, and WPFC parents are the first to give the DD's credit as he did in his posts if you would read them fully.  Not sure what your problem is, but it looks like you don't especially like WPFC.  :|  It's also not improper to report that WPFC had to deal with an obvious homer ref that almost allowed a style of play to continue that almost got someone seriously hurt.    Yes, a defender on the Strikers that was getting beat on a breakaway reached out and grabbed the arm of the WPFC forward from behind as she ran passed and dragged her down to the ground.    It was really an ugly play.  Like Charlie said, you had to be there to know how totally obvious this brutal foul was, and it was done with the sole purpose of preventing a goal.  There were several other calls that were almost laughable.  Did you hear any mention of bad refs in other games?  No.  This game....yes because it was so brutally obvious.  But, I doubt you'll listen to any of this as it seems you find it more pleasurable to find ways to twist the words of the posts being made.  

PS....I felt sorry for the poor Striker Keeper that played such a great game protecting the net all game long against the continuous WPFC attack, but was then yanked out and replaced in the PK tie breakers and replaced with a much larger girl that played defender.  It didn't even do them any good, because she didn't make any saves.  Again, my heart goes out for that keeper who got the yank.

No dislike for the Royals (WPFC), just wondering why you (parent) got so worked up on a soccer forum after your daughter and her teammates did so outstanding in winning a competitive tournament?

Thats all.  Have a good day!

[yote19]

And I also feel sorry for the keeper that came in during PK's as you just capped on her pretty good in the above quote.  How old are these girls?

[Great Dane]

Game #1:WPFC95Black(1)WS Metros(2)  
Game #2:WPFC95Black(1)Marrysville Force(0)
Game #3:WPFC95Black(3)DOS(0)

Championship round:WPFC95 Black (1) WS Metros (1):  
PK                             WPFC95Black(3) WS Metros(3)
Sudden death           WPFC95Black(2) WS Metros (1)
Champions WPFC 95 Black GU11(':)')
Beaverton Cup website posted inaccurate and incorrect.

Hard fought championship game by both team even though WS Metros clearly had  their home(':x') referee(':roll:') on their side(':!:')  WS Metros had lots of subs, while WPFC had only one sub in a brutally hot weather!

Deal with it by scoring more goals--quit your whiining.  You won the tourney, give your girls the credit by overcoming all of the difficulties of the weekend.  Good job team, poor sportsmanship parents.  Whose teaching the lessons?

Charlie is not whining, and WPFC parents are the first to give the DD's credit as he did in his posts if you would read them fully.  Not sure what your problem is, but it looks like you don't especially like WPFC.  :|  It's also not improper to report that WPFC had to deal with an obvious homer ref that almost allowed a style of play to continue that almost got someone seriously hurt.    Yes, a defender on the Strikers that was getting beat on a breakaway reached out and grabbed the arm of the WPFC forward from behind as she ran passed and dragged her down to the ground.    It was really an ugly play.  Like Charlie said, you had to be there to know how totally obvious this brutal foul was, and it was done with the sole purpose of preventing a goal.  There were several other calls that were almost laughable.  Did you hear any mention of bad refs in other games?  No.  This game....yes because it was so brutally obvious.  But, I doubt you'll listen to any of this as it seems you find it more pleasurable to find ways to twist the words of the posts being made.  

PS....I felt sorry for the poor Striker Keeper that played such a great game protecting the net all game long against the continuous WPFC attack, but was then yanked out and replaced in the PK tie breakers and replaced with a much larger girl that played defender.  It didn't even do them any good, because she didn't make any saves.  Again, my heart goes out for that keeper who got the yank.

No dislike for the Royals (WPFC), just wondering why you (parent) got so worked up on a soccer forum after your daughter and her teammates did so outstanding in winning a competitive tournament?

Thats all.  Have a good day!

We are very happy with winning the Cup, and very proud of our DD's.  However, when DD's are intentially pulled to the ground and could have been seriously hurt, with no call from the official...that is what is disturbing (has nothing to do with the win / loss).  That's all.  Thanks my furry friend.

[Great Dane]

And I also feel sorry for the keeper that came in during PK's as you just capped on her pretty good in the above quote.  How old are these girls?

Wasn't my intention and I see your point, and I apologize it came across that way....the point was that I trying to make was that I felt sorry for the regular keeper that got yanked and replaced when it went to PK's.  Probably should have worded this differently...my bad.  :oops:   The replacement did nothing wrong - nothing against her.  The point was that it didn't make a difference since these balls could not have been stopped anyway, by anyone (nothing a keeper can do in most cases during these PK's anyway).  Again, my bad.

[XCV]

Dane, how many cups of coffee have you had today? If I didn't know better I'd guess you knocked in the winning PK over the weekend. Your pride is obvious, you are the champion!!!! Hip, Hip hooray, for you are a jolly good fellow. Did your DD enjoy herself?

Your friend sa

[hefe]

Just getting back to normal today after a great Evergreen tournament. Saw some great games great job to all playing four hot day's of soccer. Good to see some WPS CP lurking around Dog, Gumby sorry missed you MA. East Side Red gave us all will could handle in final great team class CP thanks.

[ineedtogetalife]

Just getting back to normal today after a great Evergreen tournament. Saw some great games great job to all playing four hot day's of soccer. Good to see some WPS CP lurking around Dog, Gumby sorry missed you MA. East Side Red gave us all will could handle in final great team class CP thanks.

Kudos to Lil Lemon. She played great! Everytime I looked for you to say hi, I couldn't find ya.  Sorry. Next time.

[Soccer Mama]

Game #1:WPFC95Black(1)WS Metros(2)  
Game #2:WPFC95Black(1)Marrysville Force(0)
Game #3:WPFC95Black(3)DOS(0)

Championship round:WPFC95 Black (1) WS Metros (1):  
PK                             WPFC95Black(3) WS Metros(3)
Sudden death           WPFC95Black(2) WS Metros (1)
Champions WPFC 95 Black GU11(':)')
Beaverton Cup website posted inaccurate and incorrect.

Hard fought championship game by both team even though WS Metros clearly had  their home(':x') referee(':roll:') on their side(':!:')  WS Metros had lots of subs, while WPFC had only one sub in a brutally hot weather!

Deal with it by scoring more goals--quit your whiining.  You won the tourney, give your girls the credit by overcoming all of the difficulties of the weekend.  Good job team, poor sportsmanship parents.  Whose teaching the lessons?

Charlie is not whining, and WPFC parents are the first to give the DD's credit as he did in his posts if you would read them fully.  Not sure what your problem is, but it looks like you don't especially like WPFC.  :|  It's also not improper to report that WPFC had to deal with an obvious homer ref that almost allowed a style of play to continue that almost got someone seriously hurt.    Yes, a defender on the Strikers that was getting beat on a breakaway reached out and grabbed the arm of the WPFC forward from behind as she ran passed and dragged her down to the ground.    It was really an ugly play.  Like Charlie said, you had to be there to know how totally obvious this brutal foul was, and it was done with the sole purpose of preventing a goal.  There were several other calls that were almost laughable.  Did you hear any mention of bad refs in other games?  No.  This game....yes because it was so brutally obvious.  But, I doubt you'll listen to any of this as it seems you find it more pleasurable to find ways to twist the words of the posts being made.  

PS....I felt sorry for the poor Striker Keeper that played such a great game protecting the net all game long against the continuous WPFC attack, but was then yanked out and replaced in the PK tie breakers and replaced with a much larger girl that played defender.  It didn't even do them any good, because she didn't make any saves.  Again, my heart goes out for that keeper who got the yank.

Intereting Thread. I have been pretty verbal about refs not taking back control of the game in the past and I will continue to do so when injuries can occur due to this type of behavior. I was not at the game that you were speaking about but my DD took a very serious high kick to the knee and the injury could have been worse than it was.It was very clear to all the spectators that the game was getting out of control and I must say there were some questionable fouls that were not called on us as well that I felt should have been. While I don't think they were all intentional, you could almost predict something was going to happen and it did. My DD and an Oregon Metro player were both going for the ball and the Metro Player placed a High Kick to my daughter's leg. It left the imprint of her cleat on her leg and she went down twisted and screaming in pain. She was immediately carried off the field and attended to by two doctors who were checking for an ACL Break or Tear since you could hear the pop when she went down. Luckily it is only the ugliest bruise you have ever seen and she was able to play the rest of the tournament. The head Ref at the fields came over and saw the whole incident and he told me he would take care of it and I saw him talking with our Ref at the end of the game. No fowl was called on the play which is disturbing at best but who am I to say what should be called or not. The bottom line is there is a fine line that Ref's take in calling or not calling a fowl. I realize that but I wish that regardless of who the teams are on the fields, that the Ref would pay attention when the play hits a level that injuries are bound to occur.

Soccer Mama    

[Haole Boy]

wow, this thread exploded.

i was there at the game and saw the foul(s) too. i don't know if there was "intent" and i think the ref did the right thing in the end and just talked to her. it worked at that was the end of it.

i too thought at first there were some "homer" calls but in the second half the ref made some calls that were equally as bad against the home team. i'm just glad there weren't too many and they didn't factor into the game result.

hard fought game by both strikers and premier. it's tough to loose on pks but it does make for an exciting and dramatic end.

congratulations girls.

[yote19]

haole, I agree and what I was trying to say in my comments, in the grand scheme of things, (A) I rarely think 11, 12 and 13 year old players are trying to intentionally hurt another player, (B) I rarely think a ref goes out intentionally to "homer" another team and (C) if they do miss a call, generally it evens out in the long run.  

The parents in this case seemed to me to be wound a little tight with their enthusiasm and critique of the situation.  

But again, I congratulate the girls on a successful weekend and hope this event spurs on additional rewarding soccer experiences in the future.

[Gatorgirl]

BU12 EFC Red did an awesome job wining the ESA. Even though their Best score was 16-0... and the rest of the scores being along those lines, they never gave up and came out on the top!

-I not just saying that cuz my cuzin on da team... :mrgreen:

Also congrats to EFC Girls U12, they were awesome , too! :mrgreen:

Keep up the great work Eatside! :mrgreen:  

[SunshineGirls]

Hey Yote 19, I agree with you - I don't think most 11, 12 & 13 year olds set out to intentionally "play dirty" and I'm usually not for yellow and red cards given out at this age.  Having said that, I do think fouls should definitely be called.  When the hit is from behind it should always be called.  My DD got hit from behind, went down, no call.  (She was fine.)  When our CC asked why no call the ref said that they were 13 year girls and they fall.  Wrong!!!  My point is, boys and girls should be reffed the same at all ages.  If not, then how will they learn the correct way to play?  I know, they also have to learn to play how the game is being reffed, (the more physicality the ref lets go the more physical you can play)  but fouls from behind or otherwise should be called no matter the gender.

[yote19]

OK--see other thread on a supposed call on a CP's daughter that wasn't made.  Daughter told mom after game, tripped over my own foot.  Interesting isn't it...

[CAP'N CRUNCH]

Just getting back to normal today after a great Evergreen tournament. Saw some great games great job to all playing four hot day's of soccer. Good to see some WPS CP lurking around Dog, Gumby sorry missed you MA. East Side Red gave us all will could handle in final great team class CP thanks.

I think after the Evergreen Tourney we can call Hefe "Hefty" now with his great work with those Hefty garbage bags.  Good job, never seen it done better.

[Great Dane]

Hey Yote 19, I agree with you - I don't think most 11, 12 & 13 year olds set out to intentionally "play dirty" and I'm usually not for yellow and red cards given out at this age.  Having said that, I do think fouls should definitely be called.  When the hit is from behind it should always be called.  My DD got hit from behind, went down, no call.  (She was fine.)  When our CC asked why no call the ref said that they were 13 year girls and they fall.  Wrong!!!  My point is, boys and girls should be reffed the same at all ages.  If not, then how will they learn the correct way to play?  I know, they also have to learn to play how the game is being reffed, (the more physicality the ref lets go the more physical you can play)  but fouls from behind or otherwise should be called no matter the gender.

Good points sunshinegirls.  I also agree that it's highly unlikely a 10 year old intentionally tries to hurt another player, but some things need to be carded for the girls to learn what is dangerous to the other players and can't be tolerated. And for the record to others out there, I never said the Westside Metros defender intentionally tried to hurt the WPFC player (and I'm sure she had nothing of the sort in mind), but she did intentionally reach out and grab the arm of the WPFC forward from behind and drag her to the ground to prevent a sure goal on a breakaway. She was just doing whatever she could at that point to make the stop. This is exactly why the girl needed to be carded to impress upon her at this young age exactly how serious this sort of thing is.  If it's let go without being carded, then the player will just see it as any other foul that is called in a game. If this sort of thing doesn't draw a yellow, then exactly what would? And, reaching out and grabbing someone's arm and dragging him or her down to the ground is not a case of mistakenly kicking someone in the leg, accidentally tripping someone, or anything of the sort. Just trying to keep apples and oranges straight here for you all. Guess you just had to be there. That's all...enough said. If people don't get understand the point trying to be made, then so be it.

[cheese]

I have heard of some girls at this age actually on a mission to take out a top player.  I didn't think it happened at this age but I have heard and seen it :shock:

Where do they get the idea...parents?

[Great Dane]

I have heard of some girls at this age actually on a mission to take out a top player.  I didn't think it happened at this age but I have heard and seen it :shock:

Where do they get the idea...parents?

No cheese, I don't think it was anything like that at all.  I think the girl was just desperate as the forward was pulling away from her and didn't know what else to do but grab and hold on...I seriously doubt it was anything else.  But, the moral of the story is that these kids need to learn that type of thing can cause serious injury when someone is pulled down from behind.  Many players are hurt badly in these situations, as they don't even know it's coming.

[hefe]

Just getting back to normal today after a great Evergreen tournament. Saw some great games great job to all playing four hot day's of soccer. Good to see some WPS CP lurking around Dog, Gumby sorry missed you MA. East Side Red gave us all will could handle in final great team class CP thanks.

I think after the Evergreen Tourney we can call Hefe "Hefty" now with his great work with those Hefty garbage bags.  Good job, never seen it done better.

Thanks Crunch  :lol:  :lol:

[yote19]

I have heard of some girls at this age actually on a mission to take out a top player.  I didn't think it happened at this age but I have heard and seen it :shock:

Where do they get the idea...parents?

No cheese, I don't think it was anything like that at all.  I think the girl was just desperate as the forward was pulling away from her and didn't know what else to do but grab and hold on...I seriously doubt it was anything else.  But, the moral of the story is that these kids need to learn that type of thing can cause serious injury when someone is pulled down from behind.  Many players are hurt badly in these situations, as they don't even know it's coming.

I will say this as best as I can--at this age you say "these kids need to learn that type of thing can cause serious injury when someone is pulled down from behind". which is all fine and proper.  At the older ages you will be saying "they saved a chance on goal" and maybe helped win the game.  However, I think if it was as bad as you say it was, the referee should have called it.  MAYBE, he/she just missed it.  But that wouldn't be any fun to write about.

[SunshineGirls]

Good points sunshinegirls.  I also agree that it's highly unlikely a 10 year old intentionally tries to hurt another player, but some things need to be carded for the girls to learn what is dangerous to the other players and can't be tolerated. And for the record to others out there, I never said the Westside Metros defender intentionally tried to hurt the WPFC player (and I'm sure she had nothing of the sort in mind), but she did intentionally reach out and grab the arm of the WPFC forward from behind and drag her to the ground to prevent a sure goal on a breakaway. She was just doing whatever she could at that point to make the stop. This is exactly why the girl needed to be carded to impress upon her at this young age exactly how serious this sort of thing is.  If it's let go without being carded, then the player will just see it as any other foul that is called in a game. If this sort of thing doesn't draw a yellow, then exactly what would? And, reaching out and grabbing someone's arm and dragging him or her down to the ground is not a case of mistakenly kicking someone in the leg, accidentally tripping someone, or anything of the sort. Just trying to keep apples and oranges straight here for you all. Guess you just had to be there. That's all...enough said. If people don't get understand the point trying to be made, then so be it.[/quote]

Sorry so long to reply.  I agree with you GD.  Sometimes a card is appropriate, even at this age.  They still need to learn.