Topic: 2007: U-11 & U-12 8v8; max. Roster 13 (Read 2063 times)

SHARK · « **on:** October 19, 2006, 05:12:59 PM »

I'm hearing for the 2007 season that nationally all U-11 and U-12 will be 8 a-side (8v8) and a maximum roster size of 13. :?:

WA has already agreed (WSYSA). Evidently there were some state associations that were holding out but now all 50 are on board. :?:

Suposedly this brings the USA into line with what is done internationally?(FIFA) :?:

Can anyone confirm? ... what have you heard? I've done some searching and I can't seem to find anything in writing. :?
Opinions? ... is this a good thing?

If this is the case, what does this do for the U-11 teams that played up a year (11v11) this season and are planning on playing on age next season(U-12) ... screwed? They now have to play mod or play up again (U-13) if they want to stay 11v11. I would imagine that 8v8 vs. 11v11 is even a bigger step than 9v9 vs. 11v11 ... hmmmmmmmm? :?

Brat Jr · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:33:14 PM »

Quote from: "SHARK"

I'm hearing for the 2007 season that nationally all U-11 and U-12 will be 8 a-side (8v8) and a maximum roster size of 13. :?:

WA has already agreed (WSYSA). Evidently there were some state associations that were holding out but now all 50 are on board. :?:

Suposedly this brings the USA into line with what is done internationally?(FIFA) :?:

Can anyone confirm? ... what have you heard? I've done some searching and I can't seem to find anything in writing. :?
Opinions? ... is this a good thing?

If this is the case, what does this do for the U-11 teams that played up a year (11v11) this season and are planning on playing on age next season(U-12) ... screwed? They now have to play mod or play up again (U-13) if they want to stay 11v11. I would imagine that 8v8 vs. 11v11 is even a bigger step than 9v9 vs. 11v11 ... hmmmmmmmm? :?

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yote19 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:40:23 PM »

why do you all think this is a bad thing?

cheese · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:53:56 PM »

How about we just make it 1 v 1 and that way there will be more touches.

The player would learn offense, defense and Keeper.....all at the same time.

What better way for youth soccer to flourish. :roll:

Brat Jr · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2006, 05:56:42 PM »

Quote from: "yote19"

why do you all think this is a bad thing?

Because if they keep moving it up, by the time my youngest kid gets old enough to play 11v11, she'll be out of sports or a grandma!
I may as well put her back in rec and save myself a few hundred dollars and loosen up my schedule a bit.

cheese · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:01:12 PM »

Quote from: "BratillaJr"

Quote from: "yote19"
why do you all think this is a bad thing?

Because if they keep moving it up, by the time my youngest kid gets old enough to play 11v11, she'll be out of sports or a grandma!
I may as well put her back in rec and save myself a few hundred dollars and loosen up my schedule a bit.

Only a few hundred bucks? :shock:
I think I will move to your team.

Pops · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:02:23 PM »

Well, forgetting the impact on existing teams that played up...where are we going to find 25% more coaches and 25% more fields to allow the same number of players to continue to play? Many clubs/ associations are still trying to figure out how to handle 9v9 fields for U11 as the weather shuts down their grass. Most school turf fields aren't too crazy about having their fields adjusted...

It may not be bad in the long run - but very few enterprises can swallow a 25% swing in requirements, including adjusting facilities and resources with no notice. At least with this year's U11 groups it's been known for some time and groups had a chance to prepare.

Course, I think this is just a rumor. There's nothing published about it on USYSA or WSYSA, and the only thing on Mod on USYSA still shows wide variance in how modified games are being implemented across the US.

yote19 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:03:33 PM »

I didn't say it was good or bad, but I know alot of people smarter than I have discussed this for a long time, Including our last coach interviewee Bobby Howe and they have decided that this system will help our youth become more proficient at the game of soccer and help us compete at a world level better than what we are currently doing. Now should we go along with this or fight it and create another new league to offset what they believe within USSF?

cheese · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:05:51 PM »

If it's a field issue then just mirror the HS schedules.

Boys play in Fall, Girls play in Spring.

Brat Jr · « **Reply #9 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:08:46 PM »

Quote from: "cheese"

Quote from: "BratillaJr"
Quote from: "yote19"
why do you all think this is a bad thing?

Because if they keep moving it up, by the time my youngest kid gets old enough to play 11v11, she'll be out of sports or a grandma!
I may as well put her back in rec and save myself a few hundred dollars and loosen up my schedule a bit.

Only a few hundred bucks? :shock:
I think I will move to your team.

ok maybe a few hundred more total was around 600.00
and before BE goes balistic on me....... I am NOT leaving! So there!

yote19 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:09:06 PM »

or go back to how they do it in Brazil--on the beaches or in the streets :shock: Can you imagine the lawn chairs lined up next MLK JR Way South or River Road

Pops · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:16:43 PM »

Quote from: "yote19"

I didn't say it was good or bad, but I know alot of people smarter than I have discussed this for a long time, Including our last coach interviewee Bobby Howe and they have decided that this system will help our youth become more proficient at the game of soccer and help us compete at a world level better than what we are currently doing. Now should we go along with this or fight it and create another new league to offset what they believe within USSF?

Cool idea! We can call it the Primary International Drastically Developmental League Eleven-a-side (PIDDLE) :mrgreen:

I can't and wouldn't argue which approach is better for development, I'm more of a dad/ administrator than a coach...but if we're going to deploy significant changes, we need to plan for them, especially when we're throwing them at a largely volunteer organization.

Pops · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:19:42 PM »

Quote from: "cheese"

If it's a field issue then just mirror the HS schedules.

Boys play in Fall, Girls play in Spring.

I like that one - but I'm not sure Hell will freeze over and Pigs will fly in time for it to help...since that seems to be what it will take for it to happen (based on everything else I've seen written about that one).

yote19 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:26:00 PM »

This is the worse thing and a travesty that the state WSYSA and the schools WIAA can't come together and fix this arrangement. The girls are taking a beating

Pops · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:27:20 PM »

I'm with ya. Too late for my oldest (probaby) at U13, but maybe they'll fix it in time for my two younger girls...

Brat Jr · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:37:48 PM »

Quote from: "yote19"

This is the worse thing and a travesty that the state WSYSA and the schools WIAA can't come together and fix this arrangement. The girls are taking a beating

and will continue until we can get the school districts on our side

PrideNJoy · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2006, 06:38:18 PM »

max roster of 13? heck, that's what we have now lol

Pops · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2006, 03:44:49 PM »

I did a little research, and I can tell you for certain that there is ABSOLUTELY NO TRUTH to this rumor. What has been rolled out in Washington is the only thing planned, and no interest in changing it so soon after implementation. So, 9v9 for U11, still 11v11 for U12s.

yote19 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2006, 03:48:51 PM »

Thanks Pops for the research--I am sure everyone will feel better at the field tomorrow.

Pops · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2006, 03:52:12 PM »

Quote from: "yote19"

Thanks Pops for the research--I am sure everyone will feel better at the field tomorrow.

You bet...now I'll get to work on that HS schedule thingy...

yote19 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2006, 03:57:56 PM »

That would be coup for sho :shock: Won't help my team, but the little girls would love it when they go through the ivory halls.

SHARK · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2006, 04:27:01 PM »

Quote from: "Pops"

I did a little research, and I can tell you for certain that there is ABSOLUTELY NO TRUTH to this rumor. What has been rolled out in Washington is the only thing planned, and no interest in changing it so soon after implementation. So, 9v9 for U11, still 11v11 for U12s.

Thanks Pops :!: ....... sure would like to read up on this but can't find anything :? .... do you have a link or point me in the right direction?
Thx ....

sockemgirlz · « **Reply #22 on:** October 20, 2006, 04:56:10 PM »

Quote from: "Pops"

Quote from: "yote19"
Thanks Pops for the research--I am sure everyone will feel better at the field tomorrow.

You bet...now I'll get to work on that HS schedule thingy...

You got powers to do that :?:
How about changing state cup :?:

Pops · « **Reply #23 on:** October 20, 2006, 04:58:28 PM »

Quote from: "sockemgirlz"

Quote from: "Pops"
Quote from: "yote19"
Thanks Pops for the research--I am sure everyone will feel better at the field tomorrow.

You bet...now I'll get to work on that HS schedule thingy...

You got powers to do that :?:
How about changing state cup :?:

Are you talking about the new, ridiculously extended schedule for Championship cup?

sockemgirlz · « **Reply #24 on:** October 20, 2006, 05:01:18 PM »

I'm talking about playing the most important tournament in the "best" uuurrrr WORST weather WA can have...... and not to even get me started on the LONGEST EVER RUNNING TOURNAMENT.........

WHAT the HE-double hockey sticks is WSYSA doing?

?

Pollyana · « **Reply #25 on:** October 20, 2006, 05:12:07 PM »

...and the Challenge Cup and Commish Cup schedules have been shortened! (Finals tentatively in February!) I don't get it. The truncated schedule is better, but if you're going to go to the trouble of shortening the schedules, why not push pool play a month and get a shot at better weather?

Dragon · « **Reply #26 on:** October 20, 2006, 05:31:30 PM »

Because that might be smart :lol:

Mufasa · « **Reply #27 on:** October 21, 2006, 08:51:57 AM »

Quote from: "Pollyana"

...and the Challenge Cup and Commish Cup schedules have been shortened! (Finals tentatively in February!) I don't get it. The truncated schedule is better, but if you're going to go to the trouble of shortening the schedules, why not push pool play a month and get a shot at better weather?

Oh come on Polly Wanna Doodle All The Day, Mufasa love freezing but off in a driving rain storm watching DD turn blue. Love the feeling when blood finally rushes back into toes. Isn't that what state cup all about???

Month early... some people...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Pollyana · « **Reply #28 on:** October 21, 2006, 08:57:27 AM »

Silly me. You're right, what was I thinking? Not to mention the thrill of all that big air when the kids are toe-kicking off of 2 inches of snow...it's a thing of beauty!

Brat Jr · « **Reply #29 on:** October 21, 2006, 07:10:35 PM »

You mean you don't want them to play like this?:

and this was during the REGULAR season last year

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