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« on: February 06, 2007, 08:43:20 PM »

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"National youth championships in the USA are the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard in my life,'' says Horst Bertl, the Dallas Comets longtime director of coaching. ''Whoever thinks these up should be stoned.''

That would take a lot of rocks, as recent years have seen a flood of new competitions promising national crowns to children. Youngsters still in elementary school can now aim for national titles.



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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2007, 09:37:42 PM »

Fairly accurate........ :|
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2007, 10:57:56 PM »

Does that mean it not OK to aim for a national crown at 3? :lol:
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 12:45:40 AM »

We made DD wait till she was four.  Crown doesn't even fit her anymore.  :?
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 09:49:00 AM »

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"National youth championships in the USA are the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard in my life,'' says Horst Bertl, the Dallas Comets longtime director of coaching. ''Whoever thinks these up should be stoned.''

That would take a lot of rocks, as recent years have seen a flood of new competitions promising national crowns to children. Youngsters still in elementary school can now aim for national titles.



the opinion:
http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=562138566


This guy made a lot of sense when he talked about too many tournaments on top of each other and that less might be better.  But then they say "ignore all the things others are doing  and try our new thing".    Too many mousetraps, try our new one.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 01:43:35 PM »

Just like the Boxing world with 20 different federations and crowns. "Can't be #1 here, so I will try to be #1 there."
 All about BS...$$$, power,prestige...who gives a rat if Crossfire is #1 or 100 in the US, except for them!!!  What a joke this stuff is.
Ain't gonna get you into Harvard Business school because Bernie James was your coach and you won the Manchester Cup.
Oh, yeah, like Duffer says, most soccer pros only have 11th grade education so none of 'em are gonna go to school anyway. They're all off to Europe to play...for Millwall, making 20000 quid a year!Then they get to come back and play for the RedBulls and Bruce Arena when they are 33. HooHaa
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 02:30:18 PM »

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Just like the Boxing world with 20 different federations and crowns. "Can't be #1 here, so I will try to be #1 there."
 All about BS...$$$, power,prestige...who gives a rat if Crossfire is #1 or 100 in the US, except for them!!!  What a joke this stuff is.
Ain't gonna get you into Harvard Business school because Bernie James was your coach and you won the Manchester Cup.
Oh, yeah, like Duffer says, most soccer pros only have 11th grade education so none of 'em are gonna go to school anyway. They're all off to Europe to play...for Millwall, making 20000 quid a year!Then they get to come back and play for the RedBulls and Bruce Arena when they are 33. HooHaa


There is a human urge to quantify, rank and measure, and that need certainly is no less with competitive, driven people (parents and kids).  But most of the ranking stuff and championships are fairly useless, and shouldn't be given much attention.

On the boys side, even most of the P1 players won't play all years in college, if they play at all.  After college, even most of the small subset who play all four years of college will only play in some adult rec league, if they play at all.  Such lifetime participation is healthy and good, but it should give some perspective on what everyone is spending time and money pursuing through their boys' teenage years.

By the way, Horst Bertl, isn't all that well respected in the Dallas youth soccer community any more, and his comments may well be prompted by the fact that the Dallas Texans and Solar get most of the talent and championships these days.  However, for the wrong reasons, he may be right.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2007, 02:34:49 PM »

Bernie James was your coach and you won the Manchester Cup.

I'm working on a couple of theme's.........."Invasion of the Crossfire Snatchers" or "It's a Wonderful Crossfire Life".

Picture this..........Crossfireville, the Dynamo Soccer and LoanPlayers Club...  BJ as Mr. Potter.....I'm (as expected) George Bailey and all I want is my son to play for Crossfire and I'm about to throw myself off the new 60 Acres bridge, "Help me Clarence, help me, I want to love soccer again......oops that's the end... backup......I need 80,000 dollars to play for Crossfire but Uncle Billy lost it at the track.....If I jump.....my son can play for Crossfire,  when Clarence my guardian soccer angel comes to the rescue and I get my wish....... I become a Crossfire parent..........Crossfireville......yes.....now my only stumbling block is who would play Uncle Billy.... 8)  Any ideas.......anyone?
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 04:04:05 PM »

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Bernie James was your coach and you won the Manchester Cup.

I'm working on a couple of theme's.........."Invasion of the Crossfire Snatchers" or "It's a Wonderful Crossfire Life".

Picture this..........Crossfireville, the Dynamo Soccer and LoanPlayers Club...  BJ as Mr. Potter.....I'm (as expected) George Bailey and all I want is my son to play for Crossfire and I'm about to throw myself off the new 60 Acres bridge, "Help me Clarence, help me, I want to love soccer again......oops that's the end... backup......I need 80,000 dollars to play for Crossfire but Uncle Billy lost it at the track.....If I jump.....my son can play for Crossfire,  when Clarence my guardian soccer angel comes to the rescue and I get my wish....... I become a Crossfire parent..........Crossfireville......yes.....now my only stumbling block is who would play Uncle Billy.... 8)  Any ideas.......anyone?

Duffer??? LMAO
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2007, 04:14:12 PM »

The fab sports babe ;)
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 07:42:41 PM »

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Just like the Boxing world with 20 different federations and crowns. "Can't be #1 here, so I will try to be #1 there."
 All about BS...$$$, power,prestige...who gives a rat if Crossfire is #1 or 100 in the US, except for them!!!  What a joke this stuff is.
Ain't gonna get you into Harvard Business school because Bernie James was your coach and you won the Manchester Cup.
Oh, yeah, like Duffer says, most soccer pros only have 11th grade education so none of 'em are gonna go to school anyway. They're all off to Europe to play...for Millwall, making 20000 quid a year!Then they get to come back and play for the RedBulls and Bruce Arena when they are 33. HooHaa


Finally I think we agree completely. LMAO  :twisted:
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2007, 07:59:55 PM »

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Bernie James was your coach and you won the Manchester Cup.

I'm working on a couple of theme's.........."Invasion of the Crossfire Snatchers" or "It's a Wonderful Crossfire Life".

Picture this..........Crossfireville, the Dynamo Soccer and LoanPlayers Club...  BJ as Mr. Potter.....I'm (as expected) George Bailey and all I want is my son to play for Crossfire and I'm about to throw myself off the new 60 Acres bridge, "Help me Clarence, help me, I want to love soccer again......oops that's the end... backup......I need 80,000 dollars to play for Crossfire but Uncle Billy lost it at the track.....If I jump.....my son can play for Crossfire,  when Clarence my guardian soccer angel comes to the rescue and I get my wish....... I become a Crossfire parent..........Crossfireville......yes.....now my only stumbling block is who would play Uncle Billy.... 8)  Any ideas.......anyone?

Duffer??? LMAO


"Teacher says, every time a goal is scored, a Crossfire call it brings". That's right! That's right honey........Attaboy Clarence........... ;)
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 02:26:12 AM »

And is Lynwood, or is that Edmonds,   your Bedford Falls E55?
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