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« on: February 18, 2007, 05:53:08 PM »

FC Kent Girls Tryouts
at Wilson Playfields
132nd Ave SE & SE 248th St, Kent, WA (Field Turf)
   Dates and times are subject to change so please check the websites. http://www.kysa.org/  www.dosveedanya.com  www.southcountyfc.com
   In order to cover the costs of tryout expenses, KYSA will be charging $10 per player for tryouts (this includes Dos & SCFC) (a player only pays one $10 fee and may tryout for as many teams as they like).
*Girls U11-U13 tryouts are held in conjunction with Club Dosveedanya.


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FC Kent GU15
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Saturday, March 31
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FC Kent GU16
Sunday, March 18
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 24
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU17
Sunday, March 25
7:30 PM - 9:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

Sunday, April 1
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU18
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Re: FC Kent Girls Tryouts
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 12:40:07 AM »

Quote from: "Con-Fusion 95"
FC Kent Girls Tryouts
at Wilson Playfields
132nd Ave SE & SE 248th St, Kent, WA (Field Turf)
   Dates and times are subject to change so please check the websites. http://www.kysa.org/  www.dosveedanya.com  www.southcountyfc.com
   In order to cover the costs of tryout expenses, KYSA will be charging $10 per player for tryouts (this includes Dos & SCFC) (a player only pays one $10 fee and may tryout for as many teams as they like).
*Girls U11-U13 tryouts are held in conjunction with Club Dosveedanya.


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Saturday, March 3 *
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM
 
Saturday, March 10 *
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM

FC Kent ‘95 GU12 (Fusion-Coach Gladwell :mrgreen: )
Saturday, March 3 *
11:30 AM - 1:00 PM
 
Saturday, March 10 *
11:30 AM - 1:00 PM  

FC Kent ‘94 GU13
Sunday, March 25 *
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM
 
Saturday, March 31 *
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM

FC Kent GU14
Saturday, March 24
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM

Sunday, March 25
11:30 AM - 1:00 PM

FC Kent GU15
Sunday, March 25
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU16
Sunday, March 18
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 24
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU17
Sunday, March 25
7:30 PM - 9:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

Sunday, April 1
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU18
Saturday, March 31
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Sunday, April 1
7:30 PM - 9:00 PM




Imagine that - charging for tryouts.  Sounds like someone isn't getting paid enough huh?
Surely KYSA has enough in the pot to pay for lights and field usage or is it that the coach's need to be paid for standing and holding clipboards during these sessions as well?  KYSA costs are being driven up and up by the glorious Dos program and the only sensible thing to do is to pass along the cost to the parents...again.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 12:55:29 AM »

Maybe we could get David Beckham up here to do some charity work for them...what say you North West???  Dosvedon'tya :mrgreen:
Dosvedoya
or even Dosvepayya

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 03:42:22 PM »

Hey wrong thread to be dissin’ :?

FC Kent = Volunteer Coaches :mrgreen:

I’m okay with the 10 bucks, spread the cost around.  This time of year I imagine Pea Patch is a mucky mess & no lights, the parks dept. don’t let us use Wilson fields for free ya know.  And if it keeps KYSA in the black, all the better.
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Re: FC Kent Girls Tryouts
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 03:48:27 PM »

Updated....couldn't edit original post for some reason.

Quote from: "Con-Fusion 95"
FC Kent Girls Tryouts
at Wilson Playfields
132nd Ave SE & SE 248th St, Kent, WA (Field Turf)
   Dates and times are subject to change so please check the websites. http://www.kysa.org/  www.dosveedanya.com  www.southcountyfc.com
   In order to cover the costs of tryout expenses, KYSA will be charging $10 per player for tryouts (this includes Dos & SCFC) (a player only pays one $10 fee and may tryout for as many teams as they like).
*Girls U11-U13 tryouts are held in conjunction with Club Dosveedanya.


FC Kent ‘96 GU11 (Coach Responte) :D
Saturday, March 3 *
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM
 
Saturday, March 10 *
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM

FC Kent ‘95 GU12 (Fusion-Coach Gladwell :mrgreen: )
Saturday, March 3 *
11:30 AM - 1:00 PM
 
Saturday, March 10 *
11:30 AM - 1:00 PM  

FC Kent ‘94 GU13
Sunday, March 25 *
11:30 AM - 1:00 AM
 
Saturday, March 31 *
11:30 AM - 1:00 AM

FC Kent GU14
Saturday, March 24
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM

Sunday, March 25
9:30 AM - 11:00 AM

FC Kent GU15
Sunday, March 25
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU16
Sunday, March 18
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 24
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU17
Sunday, March 25
7:30 PM - 9:00 PM

Saturday, March 31
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

Sunday, April 1
3:30 PM - 5:00 PM

FC Kent GU18
Saturday, March 31
5:30 PM - 7:00 PM

Sunday, April 1
7:30 PM - 9:00 PM
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 07:59:59 PM »

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Hey wrong thread to be dissin’ :?

FC Kent = Volunteer Coaches :mrgreen:

I’m okay with the 10 bucks, spread the cost around.  This time of year I imagine Pea Patch is a mucky mess & no lights, the parks dept. don’t let us use Wilson fields for free ya know.  And if it keeps KYSA in the black, all the better.



ahem, check your math again.
most coaches who call in trainers to do the work are being paid.  not all coaches in KYSA are volunteers and are getting paid.
don't be discouraged because someone else had to enlighten you about this - it is common knowledge.  unfortunately, this practice of "don't ask, don't tell" is well accepted among many clubs these days. 8)
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 08:03:44 PM »

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Hey wrong thread to be dissin’ :?

FC Kent = Volunteer Coaches :mrgreen:

I’m okay with the 10 bucks, spread the cost around.  This time of year I imagine Pea Patch is a mucky mess & no lights, the parks dept. don’t let us use Wilson fields for free ya know.  And if it keeps KYSA in the black, all the better.



This $10.00 = "Hey come try to play for us, we would love to take your money.  Oh, by the way, if your child makes it on a team (and they will) keep your wallet handy.  If it doesn't work out, we're sorry...BTW, I need to see 2 pieces of I.D. please."
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 08:09:31 PM »

so play rec soccer nw. get over it
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 08:57:39 PM »

Don't agree Pride n Joy...come on parents are charged enough throughout the year and they have to pay for try outs too.  Let's take a team like say Dos - they often have 100 plus girls try out - you do the Math.  No one cares about paying to play select soccer - this is just too much!  It is not a rec/select thing - it is a principal thing.  Don't be so damn cheap clubs and pay for the fields :evil:
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 09:13:41 PM »

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so play rec soccer nw. get over it



Spoken like a true patriot eh?
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 10:31:09 PM »

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Quote from: "Con-Fusion 95"
Hey wrong thread to be dissin’ :?

FC Kent = Volunteer Coaches :mrgreen:

I’m okay with the 10 bucks, spread the cost around.  This time of year I imagine Pea Patch is a mucky mess & no lights, the parks dept. don’t let us use Wilson fields for free ya know.  And if it keeps KYSA in the black, all the better.



ahem, check your math again.
most coaches who call in trainers to do the work are being paid.  not all coaches in KYSA are volunteers and are getting paid.
don't be discouraged because someone else had to enlighten you about this - it is common knowledge.  unfortunately, this practice of "don't ask, don't tell" is well accepted among many clubs these days. 8)

ahem NW - Please enlighten us with your vast knowledge of which FC Kent Select coaches are paid.  Make a list.  I’d like to know.
You do realize we are discussing the Kent Select program and not SCFC or Dos?  Paid trainers are obviously a totally different story. This year every team did have to pay a fee for keeper training (whether they used it or not, is my understanding).  Is that what you’re talking about?  School's in session.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 12:38:14 AM »

I couldn't keep quiet any longer.  A quick check on clubs that charge for tryouts:  Crossfire, Federal Way, Washington Premier, NWN, and FC Vancouver just to name a few.

Soccernw there are many fallacies in what you assert to be the truth.  FC Kent coaches are NOT paid coaches.  I know because my dh is one of them.  Not once has he ever received a paycheck for his time and effort.  Only the appreciation and growth of his players.  In fact, we have spent money out of our pocket so he could further his knowledge of the game and attend a national c course (read-registration fee, vacation from work since it is a daytime, several day course, missing dh and dad, etc).  Yes, he has a paid trainer but it is included in the team budget and parents know up front and choose to play on his team willingly.

In addition, the $10 tryout fee does not cover much more than field and light costs.  Wilson fields run $60/hour w/o lights and $75/hour w/ lights.  This is per field and most of the time we need both fields!  Considering that we have reserved Wilson fields for approximately 122 hours over the 18 days that we run tryouts at $60 per hour on the cheap end (most of the time is in the late afternoon/evenings so it will actually be $75) we will be seeing a field bill of approximately $7,320.  Divide this by $10 and we will need at least 732 players to show up for tryouts in order to break even.  

In regards to your comments about costs being run up by Dos, you are wrong.  The decision to charge $10 was made by the KYSA board.  Since Dos is a club under KYSA, the fee was imposed on them.  There was discussion about why charge a fee and it came down to the fact that in order to run a program for the long term, we must be fiscally responsible.  In order to do that, we felt it best to offset some of the costs for fields by charging a $10 fee.

As a non-profit 501(c)3 KYSA does not and cannot pay salaries to any of their board members.  All the time and effort put in is done by choice because board members want to give back to the community in some way.  If you are not happy with the way KYSA is doing things, there is something you can do!  Run for election at our AGM on February 28 for any of the open positions we have available.  We are always looking for volunteers and people to help lighten the load for those that are doing something.  Unfortunately I learned quickly when I was a PTA President that many will complain but few will step up to fix it.

In short the message is - make sure you have your facts straight before you go and spew a bunch of non-truths.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 12:57:22 AM »

Some of you people crack me the hell up....
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 01:23:26 AM »

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Some of you people crack me the hell up....

Not to beat this dead horse.... but where was the crap talk with WPFC charging $10.00 when they OWN the land and have lights?
Oh yeah! There wasn't any! So lay off Kent
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 02:14:47 AM »

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I couldn't keep quiet any longer.  A quick check on clubs that charge for tryouts:  Crossfire, Federal Way, Washington Premier, NWN, and FC Vancouver just to name a few.

Soccernw there are many fallacies in what you assert to be the truth.  FC Kent coaches are NOT paid coaches.  I know because my dh is one of them.  Not once has he ever received a paycheck for his time and effort.  Only the appreciation and growth of his players.  In fact, we have spent money out of our pocket so he could further his knowledge of the game and attend a national c course (read-registration fee, vacation from work since it is a daytime, several day course, missing dh and dad, etc).  Yes, he has a paid trainer but it is included in the team budget and parents know up front and choose to play on his team willingly.

In addition, the $10 tryout fee does not cover much more than field and light costs.  Wilson fields run $60/hour w/o lights and $75/hour w/ lights.  This is per field and most of the time we need both fields!  Considering that we have reserved Wilson fields for approximately 122 hours over the 18 days that we run tryouts at $60 per hour on the cheap end (most of the time is in the late afternoon/evenings so it will actually be $75) we will be seeing a field bill of approximately $7,320.  Divide this by $10 and we will need at least 732 players to show up for tryouts in order to break even.  

In regards to your comments about costs being run up by Dos, you are wrong.  The decision to charge $10 was made by the KYSA board.  Since Dos is a club under KYSA, the fee was imposed on them.  There was discussion about why charge a fee and it came down to the fact that in order to run a program for the long term, we must be fiscally responsible.  In order to do that, we felt it best to offset some of the costs for fields by charging a $10 fee.

As a non-profit 501(c)3 KYSA does not and cannot pay salaries to any of their board members.  All the time and effort put in is done by choice because board members want to give back to the community in some way.  If you are not happy with the way KYSA is doing things, there is something you can do!  Run for election at our AGM on February 28 for any of the open positions we have available.  We are always looking for volunteers and people to help lighten the load for those that are doing something.  Unfortunately I learned quickly when I was a PTA President that many will complain but few will step up to fix it.

In short the message is - make sure you have your facts straight before you go and spew a bunch of non-truths.



All nice facts and I am glad to have read them.  I am just reading in between the lines here as I have seen several teams over the past few years (being part of KYSA and still a part of KYSA) that there have been coaches that charge an extra amount of $ to cover "overhead" if you will.
My apologies to anyone who took offense - no club is golden these days.  Everyone knows that there are 'select' teams within associations that do charge for 'coaching' and yes it is known to the parents before hand - KYSA is no exception.  I suppose that KYSA would probably charge only $8.00 if they were to use Wilson Field during the days without the need for lights.  I suppose that they would only charge $6.00 if they were able to use the Pea Patch fields exclusively.  It just seems strange that the parents pay to have the right to pay more down the road.  Am I the only one that thinks this is strange for "youth" soccer?
I will not get into it anymore because this is obviously flairing some attitudes.  I just ask we do not beat a dead horse any more and I will concede.  Spewing is not my fashion.  Have I been schooled?  Maybe I did learn some things, yes.
My apologies to anyone who took offense - no club is golden these days.
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 07:49:55 AM »

CP's getting all huffy puffy about throwing away $10 for tryout.

I think I'm gonna run to Starbucks and get myself a $4 mocha and a $2 bagel and think about this one for a while.  :roll:
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2007, 08:54:25 AM »

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CP's getting all huffy puffy about throwing away $10 for tryout.

I think I'm gonna run to Starbucks and get myself a $4 mocha and a $2 bagel and think about this one for a while.  :roll:





OH!  NOW DON'T GET ME STARTED ON STARBUCKS!!!  Let me tell you something about Starbucks and soccer that just drives me ...
...just kidding...just a cheap stab at trying to get back to the light hearted side of things here.  :D  oops!  did I say "cheap"?
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2007, 07:52:40 PM »

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I couldn't keep quiet any longer.  A quick check on clubs that charge for tryouts:  Crossfire, Federal Way, Washington Premier, NWN, and FC Vancouver just to name a few.

Soccernw there are many fallacies in what you assert to be the truth.  FC Kent coaches are NOT paid coaches.  I know because my dh is one of them.  Not once has he ever received a paycheck for his time and effort.  Only the appreciation and growth of his players.  In fact, we have spent money out of our pocket so he could further his knowledge of the game and attend a national c course (read-registration fee, vacation from work since it is a daytime, several day course, missing dh and dad, etc).  Yes, he has a paid trainer but it is included in the team budget and parents know up front and choose to play on his team willingly.

In addition, the $10 tryout fee does not cover much more than field and light costs.  Wilson fields run $60/hour w/o lights and $75/hour w/ lights.  This is per field and most of the time we need both fields!  Considering that we have reserved Wilson fields for approximately 122 hours over the 18 days that we run tryouts at $60 per hour on the cheap end (most of the time is in the late afternoon/evenings so it will actually be $75) we will be seeing a field bill of approximately $7,320.  Divide this by $10 and we will need at least 732 players to show up for tryouts in order to break even.  

In regards to your comments about costs being run up by Dos, you are wrong.  The decision to charge $10 was made by the KYSA board.  Since Dos is a club under KYSA, the fee was imposed on them.  There was discussion about why charge a fee and it came down to the fact that in order to run a program for the long term, we must be fiscally responsible.  In order to do that, we felt it best to offset some of the costs for fields by charging a $10 fee.

As a non-profit 501(c)3 KYSA does not and cannot pay salaries to any of their board members.  All the time and effort put in is done by choice because board members want to give back to the community in some way.  If you are not happy with the way KYSA is doing things, there is something you can do!  Run for election at our AGM on February 28 for any of the open positions we have available.  We are always looking for volunteers and people to help lighten the load for those that are doing something.  Unfortunately I learned quickly when I was a PTA President that many will complain but few will step up to fix it.

In short the message is - make sure you have your facts straight before you go and spew a bunch of non-truths.


Here, here....
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 12:21:22 AM »

I think that we have a 50/50 tie and we are going to have to agree to disagree.  Good luck to all clubs this year for try out season - I hope you all find a great match and remember this is youth soccer and we are here for the kids :lol:  :mrgreen:  :D  :P
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