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« on: April 30, 2007, 10:39:25 AM »

Spent all day at Starfire on Sunday. We arrived shortly after 8:00 AM fueled by a Sausage McMuffin & Egg sandwich and OJ. Got home shortly after 8:00 PM. I would have written it then, but bed was a much more appealing option. (BTW, who was eliminated from Amazing Race?)

We saw hard-fought and well-played soccer throughout the day. As Dragon would say teams played with Heart and Fire. We also saw some things that were not as appealing.

In all we saw games involving teams from U11-U13, both boys and girls. I especially liked a couple of take charge referees who were not afraid to put overzealous coaches in their place.

Here’s some of the sights and sounds of our day on the banks of the Green River:

Most Intense Game: GU13 FW Reign vs. Crossfire/Porter. 0-0 regulation tie. Xfire had a goal called back on an offside call late in regulation. Their fans didn’t see the call and were yelling and screaming in delight. The FW fans saw it and felt relief, but then realized that the Center did not see the AR’s flag up. They were quite vocal in getting his attention and the goal was ultimately waved off. The range of emotions over those few seconds was amazing.

What I Would Have Liked to Seen: A GU12 final between ECFC Green and Eastside Red where both teams aren’t dead tired from already playing two games. Make no mistake ECFC was the better team in this one controlling the midfield and capitalizing when they had the opportunity. But having watched Eastside twice earlier, I could tell they were both mentally and physically tired. Combine that with the stellar play of ECFC and game didn’t live up to my expectation. Plaudits to ECFC. Your win was well-deserved and I look forward to more games between your teams throughout the year.

Best Dressed Coach: Whoever coached the GU13 Eagles (sorry I didn’t get your name). Your team may have struggled, but your dress slacks, dress shirt, and tie added a touch of class to the proceedings.

Best Save: Eastside goalie Cory, with her face, against Les Bois Mollay (a U13 playing down). I know this was on Saturday, but it was too good not to mention. It was point blank and I’m glad you’re OK. You are one tough player.

Best Weapon: Eastside’s #29. Her free kicks are a great weapon. Scored 2 vs. Crossfire-Schmetzer, one from the run of play from outside the 18 and another just before half on a free kick.

Best Goal: A rocket from outside the 18 to the upper left corner by Les Bois Mollay vs. Eastside on Saturday. Sorry I can’t remember her number (kinda like not getting the license number of the truck that just ran you over). Impressive, especially since you could see it developing. 2nd: Eastside GU11's 1st vs. NWN.

Most Fun to Watch: #13 NWN GU11. Little read-headed forward worked hard all game.

Best Center Refs: A three-way tie between the gentlemen who refereed the GU13 FCA Gold/Lake Oswego; GU12 Finale; and GU11 finale (see below). Combined solid decisions with decisive action and an ability to explain and communicate.

Sorest Loser: Sorry I had to include this category, but it was so egregious that it had to be mentioned. Northwest Nationals GU11 Red coach and fans. Yes, you were playing in your first final (no matter the Starfire website says it was Westsound vs. Eastside in the final) and had lost a 1-0 lead, but to blame the CR sets a bad example for your players. For the coach to stand with his foot on the ball preventing his team a throw-in to yell at the referee was classless. The CR was should have tossed you then, but his very public rebuke put you in your place. (editor’s note: I’m not mentioning names here because I do not know if this was their regular coach as some teams did not have their coaches and I do not want to assume). And to refuse to shake the referees hands after the game is completely childish. I hope your CD gets the referee’s report and has a serious sit down with you before your next tournament. You set the example for your players and parents and you failed miserably.

And to the NWN fans, not all, but some, who followed the referees to the fence and yelled at them. You know better or at least you should.

And lastly to Starfire:
How can you have teams playing in the wrong brackets? I know it’s been covered, but who’s rules are we following? Oregon’s, Idaho’s, Washington’s? It cheapens the competition and makes you look amateurish. You need to do a better job screening applicants to place them in their right age groups.

How can you justify playing U12 games on a U11 field – some in pool, but more importantly the GU12 semifinals. Plus 3 games in one day for teams making the finals is too much to expect top notch soccer in a finale.

It seems to me that you wanted to register as many teams as you could so you could make as much money as you can, and to heck with the integrity of the competition. Our team, for one, will not be back, a sentiment I heard from other teams as well.

Also – charging $5 for parking when the car arrives after 5:00 PM on Sunday to watch one game seems a little over the top. Prespective, please!

After re-reading this post, I apologize if it seems that the negative outweighs the positive. It was a fun day. We saw hard hard-fought and well-played soccer; fans that were into it; grandparents that were in midseason form; and I didn’t see any spectator/bicyclist accidents along the trail. Players competed hard and kept you on the edge of your chair or blanket with their skill and dedication. The ebb and flow of the games was constantly changing. I presented some of the less than stellar events hopefully to get people’s attention so we can become better players, coaches, fans, and tournament directors.

Thanks for reading and I guess we see each other in Snohomish.
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Re: My Day at Starfire
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2007, 11:02:17 AM »

Quote from: "Mudbone"
Spent all day at Starfire on Sunday. We arrived shortly after 8:00 AM fueled by a Sausage McMuffin & Egg sandwich and OJ. Got home shortly after 8:00 PM. I would have written it then, but bed was a much more appealing option. (BTW, who was eliminated from Amazing Race?)

We saw hard-fought and well-played soccer throughout the day. As Dragon would say teams played with Heart and Fire. We also saw some things that were not as appealing.

In all we saw games involving teams from U11-U13, both boys and girls. I especially liked a couple of take charge referees who were not afraid to put overzealous coaches in their place.

Here’s some of the sights and sounds of our day on the banks of the Green River:

Most Intense Game: GU13 FW Reign vs. Crossfire/Porter. 0-0 regulation tie. Xfire had a goal called back on an offside call late in regulation. Their fans didn’t see the call and were yelling and screaming in delight. The FW fans saw it and felt relief, but then realized that the Center did not see the AR’s flag up. They were quite vocal in getting his attention and the goal was ultimately waved off. The range of emotions over those few seconds was amazing.

What I Would Have Liked to Seen: A GU12 final between ECFC Green and Eastside Red where both teams aren’t dead tired from already playing two games. Make no mistake ECFC was the better team in this one controlling the midfield and capitalizing when they had the opportunity. But having watched Eastside twice earlier, I could tell they were both mentally and physically tired. Combine that with the stellar play of ECFC and game didn’t live up to my expectation. Plaudits to ECFC your win was well-deserved and I look forward to more games between your teams throughout the year.

Best Dressed Coach: Whoever coached the GU13 Eagles (sorry I didn’t get your name). Your team may have struggled, but your dress slacks, dress shirt, and tie added a touch of class to the proceedings.

Best Save: Eastside goalie Cory, with her face, against Les Bois Mollay. I know this was on Saturday, but it was too good not to mention. It was point blank and I’m glad you’re OK.

Best Weapon: Eastside’s #29. Her free kicks are a great weapon. Scored 2 vs. Crossfire-Schmetzer, one from the run of play from outside the 18 and another just before half on a free kick.

Best Goal: A rocket from outside the 18 to the upper left corner by Les Bois Mollay. Sorry I can’t remember her number (kinda like not getting the license number of the truck that just ran you over). Impressive, especially since you could see it developing.

Most Fun to Watch: #13 NWN GU11. Little read-headed forward worked hard all game.

Best Center Refs: A three-way tie between the gentlemen who refereed the GU13 FCA Gold/Lake Oswego; GU12 Finale; and GU11 finale (see below). Combined solid decisions with decisive action and an ability to explains and communicate.

Sorest Loser: Sorry I had to include this category, but it was so egregious that it had to be mentioned. Northwest Nationals GU11 Red coach and fans. Yes, you were playing in your first final (no matter the Starfire website says it was Westsound vs. Eastside in the final) and had lost a 1-0 lead, but to blame the CR sets a bad example for your players. For the coach to stand with his foot on the ball preventing his team a throw-in to yell at the referee was classless. The CR was should have tossed you then, but his very public rebuke put you in your place. (editor’s note: I’m not mentioning names here because I do not know if this was their regular coach as some teams did not have their coaches and I do not want to assume). And to refuse to shake the referees hands after the game is completely childish. I hope your CD gets the referee’s report and has a serious sit down with you before your next tournament. You set the example for your players and parents and you failed miserably.

And to the NWN fans, not all, but some, who followed the referees to the fence and yelled at them. You know better or at least you should.

And lastly to Starfire:
How can you have teams playing in the wrong brackets? I know it’s been covered, but who’s rules are we following? Oregon’s, Idaho’s, Washington’s? It cheapens the competition and makes you look amateurish. You need to do a better job screening applicants to place them in their right age groups.

How can you justify playing U12 games on a U11 field – some in pool, but more importantly the GU12 semifinals. Plus 3 games in one day for teams making the finals is too much to expect top notch soccer in a finale.

It seems to me that you wanted to register as many teams as you could so you could make as much money as you can, and to heck with the integrity of the competition. Our team, for one, will not be back, a sentiment I heard from other teams as well.

Also – charging $5 for parking when the car arrives after 5:00 PM on Sunday to watch one game seems a little over the top. Prespective, please!

After re-reading his post, I apologize if it seems that the negative outweighs the positive. It was a fun day. We saw hard hard-fought and well-played soccer; fans that were into it; grandparents that were in midseason form; and I didn’t see any spectator/bicyclist accidents along the trail. Players competed hard and kept you on the edge of your chair or blanket with their skill and dedication. The ebb and flow of the games was constantly changing. I presented some of the less than stellar events hopefully to get people’s attention so we be better as players, coaches, fans, and tournament directors.

Thanks for reading and I guess we see each other in Snohomish.


Great post Mudbone :D
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 11:14:44 AM »

One thing I forgot to add:

What are you feelings about team benches on the same side and parents on the other versus teams and parents together on opposite sidelines. I'm for the teams on one side and parents on the other.
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 11:27:50 AM »

That was an excellent post Mudbone!  Remember those U11 days when every game seemed SOOO important?  Then, 10,000 games later you realize they'll be at least 10,000 more!  Hopefully those parents will realize this sooner than later and put their best foot forward, win or lose.  Soccer games come and go but your character is with you forever!  I'm also for teams on one side, parents on the other.  That way the kids hear the cheers but not the muttering!  p.s. Way to go Eastside goalie, that save sounds fierce!
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2007, 11:44:24 AM »

Good post Mudbone. I didn't get a chance to see many of the games, but the ones I did see were enough to get my soccer fix in.

I too hope that Starfire learns from these mistakes and will correct them before the next tournament.
As for parking, YIKES. Don't peeps car pool?
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2007, 11:49:22 AM »

Quote from: "Mudbone"
One thing I forgot to add:

What are you feelings about team benches on the same side and parents on the other versus teams and parents together on opposite sidelines. I'm for the teams on one side and parents on the other.


I want the best of both worlds.  I like it when the coach has the run of the entire sideline.  This only happens when you share a sideline with your parents(which I don't like).  If the parents are on the opposite side you share a sideline with the other team(which I don't like).  Let's bring in portable bleaches  :D
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 12:14:41 PM »

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One thing I forgot to add:

What are you feelings about team benches on the same side and parents on the other versus teams and parents together on opposite sidelines. I'm for the teams on one side and parents on the other.


I want the best of both worlds.  I like it when the coach has the run of the entire sideline.  This only happens when you share a sideline with your parents(which I don't like).  If the parents are on the opposite side you share a sideline with the other team(which I don't like).  Let's bring in portable bleaches  :D

I like it when the parents are on the sides with the kids across the fields from the opposing teams/ parents.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2007, 01:28:43 PM »

Danny and Oswald  ( to answer your "Amazing Race" question)  :D
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2007, 01:32:01 PM »

I'm kind of on the fence with this one.  On one hand, I like it when the teams and parents are on the same side because you get cheering from both sides and you know when you are getting out of hand when the coach gives you "the look".  But on the other hand, I like it when the players and coaches are away from the fans so the coaches can focus on the team and the players aren't distracted.  And also when the fans are all together, some CPs that like using their right of freedom of speech instead decide to sensor themselves.

And btw, great post Mudbone!!
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2007, 01:44:00 PM »

Sensoring by peers is always good and players on one side and parents on the other is best.  Coaches shouldn't have to go up and down the entire field.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2007, 01:53:59 PM »

MB,
Your post was awesome!  It was nice to read.  Your material was well written - kept it real.

Next up Snoho tourney!
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2007, 01:58:51 PM »

Very Nice Post MB!  One of the best I have read in a while!  
Thank you!  I feel like I was there  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2007, 04:00:44 PM »

Gotta agree.... well said!
I like players on one side, parents on the other...
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2007, 04:31:30 PM »

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Danny and Oswald  ( to answer your "Amazing Race" question)  :D


Thanks. Now I don't have to watch the DVR and can focus on the Arsenal-Fulham game from Sunday morning.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2007, 04:33:22 PM »

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Sensoring by peers is always good and players on one side and parents on the other is best.  Coaches shouldn't have to go up and down the entire field.


I agree.  Coaches definitely don't have to range the field.

It was funny yesterday during the GU-13 final.  Late in the second half, as the parents on one side were getting more and more nervous, I looked over at the players side.  I was surprised to see both Porter and Frenchie sitting on thier benches with legs crossed... quiet... just letting the players play.  It was like they were trying out-cool each other or sumthin.  :lol:  It was really cool to see.  8)

That was a good lesson for me and the parents... also, perhaps, for those coaches that feel they need to pace the touch line barking instructions.  ;)

OH YEAH... That was a great post, mudbone!!!  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2007, 05:19:58 PM »

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Sensoring by peers is always good and players on one side and parents on the other is best.  Coaches shouldn't have to go up and down the entire field.


I agree.  Coaches definitely don't have to range the field.

It was funny yesterday during the GU-13 final.  Late in the second half, as the parents on one side were getting more and more nervous, I looked over at the players side.  I was surprised to see both Porter and Frenchie sitting on thier benches with legs crossed... quiet... just letting the players play.  It was like they were trying out-cool each other or sumthin.  :lol:  It was really cool to see.  8)

That was a good lesson for me and the parents... also, perhaps, for those coaches that feel they need to pace the touch line barking instructions.  ;)

OH YEAH... That was a great post, mudbone!!!  :mrgreen:


Totally agree....sometimes I wonder how the players on some of these teams ever learn to think for themselves on the field with constant instructions being yelled at them the entire game.  That would drive me nuts as a player, and also be very distracting.
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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2007, 05:26:03 PM »

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Danny and Oswald  ( to answer your "Amazing Race" question)  :D


Thanks. Now I don't have to watch the DVR and can focus on the Arsenal-Fulham game from Sunday morning.


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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2007, 05:36:04 PM »

Maybe they need to follow these rules:

1) No instruction from the sidelines, nope not even shoot, put it in, run...because the Coach maybe "coaching" the player to do something else.  Oh, plus they may need to think for themselves :roll:

2)Implement the yellow sock/red sock rule for parents.  If they are a little over the top they get the yellow sock for their mouth and if it goes too far they get the red sock and they get to sit in their car :!:

It works very well and players actually learn to listen to their coaches and have some instincts of their own!

The only thing I have to add is, why do Coaches let their teams slaughter other teams 10-0, 11-0.  What ever happened to posession :?:   I wasn't there but I saw some of the scores...

Just my two cents :mrgreen:
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2007, 05:43:28 PM »

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Maybe they need to follow these rules:

1) No instruction from the sidelines, nope not even shoot, put it in, run...because the Coach maybe "coaching" the player to do something else.  Oh, plus they may need to think for themselves :roll:

2)Implement the yellow sock/red sock rule for parents.  If they are a little over the top they get the yellow sock for their mouth and if it goes too far they get the red sock and they get to sit in their car :!:

It works very well and players actually learn to listen to their coaches and have some instincts of their own!

The only thing I have to add is, why do Coaches let their teams slaughter other teams 10-0, 11-0.  What ever happened to posession :?:   I wasn't there but I saw some of the scores...

Just my two cents :mrgreen:

When you have 2 teams in a bracket that do not meet each other both need to get as many goals as possible to move on.
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2007, 05:49:24 PM »

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Maybe they need to follow these rules:

1) No instruction from the sidelines, nope not even shoot, put it in, run...because the Coach maybe "coaching" the player to do something else.  Oh, plus they may need to think for themselves :roll:

2)Implement the yellow sock/red sock rule for parents.  If they are a little over the top they get the yellow sock for their mouth and if it goes too far they get the red sock and they get to sit in their car :!:

It works very well and players actually learn to listen to their coaches and have some instincts of their own!

The only thing I have to add is, why do Coaches let their teams slaughter other teams 10-0, 11-0.  What ever happened to posession :?:   I wasn't there but I saw some of the scores...

Just my two cents :mrgreen:

When you have 2 teams in a bracket that do not meet each other both need to get as many goals as possible to move on.


U11 this was real bad.  But look at Bracket D, with Crossfire and Eastside both going undefeated, but Eastside had one more shut out.  Maybe you tell your kids to work on possession and you give up a goal and lose that extra point.  I'm with not running the score up, I'm just saying hate to see it, but what can you do unless all teams in a bracket play each other.
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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 06:22:31 PM »

much better for a coach to have parents on other side.  Easier to talk with the players.
The negative is the parents coaching from the other side but if the kids are coached right, they just ignore the parents.  Don't they do this anyway? hehehehe
I heard a good one this weekend during my sons game when the parents were all on one side.  A boys dad comes down the sideline and tells him to let someone else take the corner kick. I had to bite my tongue to not ask "Are you the coach?" hehehe
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2007, 06:28:34 PM »

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much better for a coach to have parents on other side.  Easier to talk with the players.
The negative is the parents coaching from the other side but if the kids are coached right, they just ignore the parents.  Don't they do this anyway? hehehehe
I heard a good one this weekend during my sons game when the parents were all on one side.  A boys dad comes down the sideline and tells him to let someone else take the corner kick. I had to bite my tongue to not ask "Are you the coach?" hehehe


Saw a U-13 game with a parent standing behind the goal giving instructions to the keeper who I think was parents kid.  DD would simply  SHOOT me.
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2007, 07:04:47 PM »

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much better for a coach to have parents on other side.  Easier to talk with the players.
The negative is the parents coaching from the other side but if the kids are coached right, they just ignore the parents.  Don't they do this anyway? hehehehe
I heard a good one this weekend during my sons game when the parents were all on one side.  A boys dad comes down the sideline and tells him to let someone else take the corner kick. I had to bite my tongue to not ask "Are you the coach?" hehehe


Saw a U-13 game with a parent standing behind the goal giving instructions to the keeper who I think was parents kid.  DD would simply  SHOOT me.


You know it - mine would punt the ball off my forehead  :shock:
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2007, 07:51:34 PM »

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much better for a coach to have parents on other side.  Easier to talk with the players.
The negative is the parents coaching from the other side but if the kids are coached right, they just ignore the parents.  Don't they do this anyway? hehehehe
I heard a good one this weekend during my sons game when the parents were all on one side.  A boys dad comes down the sideline and tells him to let someone else take the corner kick. I had to bite my tongue to not ask "Are you the coach?" hehehe


Saw a U-13 game with a parent standing behind the goal giving instructions to the keeper who I think was parents kid.  DD would simply  SHOOT me.


I thought that was against the rules.  Am I wrong or could the ref have stepped in?

We CP's are a funny lot.  :D
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2007, 08:47:20 PM »

You have class rd...our girls are not allowed to "slaughter" other teams :!:   We have class too :!:

That's why our club has a great philosophy :mrgreen:
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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2007, 09:07:32 PM »

Hey English, I was speaking with our coaching director on this very subject and he gave me a really great quote that summed it all up for those teams that got the score ran up on them. You should ask him about it when you see him :).

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2007, 10:51:04 PM »

Not all coaches "let" their teams slaughter another team, it just happens.  Sometimes the tournament brackets end up a little lop-sided.  If there was a way to gauge the strength of all brand new teams before the first tournament, everyone would know if their team should be in the Gold or Silver bracket, but there isn't.  But with a "random" draw  :shock:  you never know who is going to be in the bracket of death.

I once heard one football coach say to another (in a lop-sided game), "It's not my job to teach my offense to not score, it's your job to teach your defense how to stop them!!"
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2007, 11:02:36 PM »

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Not all coaches "let" their teams slaughter another team, it just happens.  Sometimes the tournament brackets end up a little lop-sided.  If there was a way to gauge the strength of all brand new teams before the first tournament, everyone would know if their team should be in the Gold or Silver bracket, but there isn't.  But with a "random" draw  :shock:  you never know who is going to be in the bracket of death.

I once heard one football coach say to another (in a lop-sided game), "It's not my job to teach my offense to not score, it's your job to teach your defense to stop them!!"


Couldn't agree with you more and yet I'm not on board with what you're saying.  I know the team I was rooting for hadn't been in a tourney before and they got beat, but at least was able to fight and battle back.  They were able to adjust and had the capability to adjust.

There were teams that had no chance.  Like clubbing baby seals.  You mean to tell me a U8/9 development team has the responsibility to stand up to a NWN Red or else get run over.  You can make your team pass 8 times before a shot or something.  Sounds goofy but honestly some of those "b" and "c" teams were so small compared to the "a" teams you could do something.  My dd was on a team where the keeper would get switched out for someone who had never played keeper before.  

In the end it's sport and there will always be lopsided victories.  One day you're the baby seal the next you're the clubber
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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2007, 11:09:24 PM »

Ah Spring... the days get longer, the birds sing louder, and the early Spring tournament blowout threads pop up like tulips on WPS...
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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2007, 01:03:56 AM »

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Couldn't agree with you more and yet I'm not on board with what you're saying.  I know the team I was rooting for hadn't been in a tourney before and they got beat, but at least was able to fight and battle back.  They were able to adjust and had the capability to adjust.

There were teams that had no chance.  Like clubbing baby seals.  You mean to tell me a U8/9 development team has the responsibility to stand up to a NWN Red or else get run over.  You can make your team pass 8 times before a shot or something.  Sounds goofy but honestly some of those "b" and "c" teams were so small compared to the "a" teams you could do something.  My dd was on a team where the keeper would get switched out for someone who had never played keeper before.  

In the end it's sport and there will always be lopsided victories.  One day you're the baby seal the next you're the clubber


My point exactly!!  I just wish there was a way to make sure everyone is playing like or a slight level above teams...but its not going to happen.  I'll just speak for myself and say its no fun for ME to watch a blow out whether or not dd's team is the baby seal or the clubber.  When dd's team is blowing another team out, I start cheering for the other team and pointing out what they are doing well!!  But that's just me.

We taught our kids how to lose at an early age.  When we played games with them and we had the opportunity to win, we did, unlike some parents that make sure their darling kids win every game.  That's not reality...you're going to win some (sometimes a blow out) and lose some (unfortunately...sometimes a blow out).  We taught them how to lose gracefully (and not cry, pout and whine), but more importantly we taught them to win gracefully (and not gloat).

Disclaimer:  The above behavior does not apply when discussing my children's sibling rivalry.  We tried everything we could, but the above practice does not work when it comes to them.  However, your children are safe.  LOL!!!
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