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[Dragon]

When you talk about chaperoning for a travel tournament that is a different issue.

I know of one team that has two parents volunteer (manager or not) to chaperon the players and the team pays for their hotel rooms but not all of the travel cost.

You will find out it's only a few mom's who are willing or can take the time out to travel every time with the team and who has the patience to deal with teenagers.  It's a lot of work.

I haven't know of a team who pays for their manager, travel or not.

You must not be on the right Premier team then little doggy :lol:

[justaparent]

What I don't think many realize is how much work it is to coordiante travel (airfare, hotel, van rental, food, entertainment, etc...) for 16 or so families.  There is also the legwork required to get the infamous travel papers from WSYSA.  This is no easy task and usually requires a drive to Federal Way and most people don't live very close.  I know first hand that it takes many hours (could be measured in days) of planning for a travel event.  

Like many have said these teams typically travel 3 or more times per season so most parents do not go and that leaves the team manager and maybe 1 -2 chaperones in charge.  Also with most of these teams (not all) the coach takes no responsibility for the chaperoning part they are only there to coach.  

Have you ever tried to take 16 - 18 teenage kids to a movie or dinner by yourself?  Have you ever had to pay for a players meal because the parent didn't send enough spending money?  And never get it back?  Have you ever gotten up 2 -3 times a night to walk the halls and make sure the players are not out and roaming them all hours?  What about doing the team laundry at 1 or 2 in the morning because that is the only time the 1 washing machne is available?

On a perfect team these responsibilities are divided amongst the families but I have yet to see a team that has more than 1 or 2 volunteers.  Most people say "how much do you need so I don't have to volunteer?"

Having the team pay an extra $20 - $30 for the team managers room and airline ticket (no food is never covered and shouldn't be) is a small price to pay.  Remember this is not about paying for a professional manager (we already pay for a professional coach) but just a simple coverage of the largest part of a travel expense for someone who works hard and won't get any rest until they get home and go back to work.

[keepermom]

Sometimes team managers have more power, coercion and emphasis than coach or asst coach.  But I agree they are a team parent volunteering. Do we pay the way for the guy that brings the easy up, the portabench, the team photographer, the team cheerleader. :roll:

I thought the team manager did all those jobs.

Show how much you know!! Can I have my trunk back now?!?!?

[nosoupforU]

Having the team pay an extra $20 - $30 for the team managers room and airline ticket (no food is never covered and shouldn't be) is a small price to pay.  Remember this is not about paying for a professional manager (we already pay for a professional coach) but just a simple coverage of the largest part of a travel expense for someone who works hard and won't get any rest until they get home and go back to work.

Nail; hit on the head. It's not about 'paying' a manager. It's about 'helping out' with a small part of their expenditures. Expenses they wouldn't have had they not volunteered to be manager of our kids. I always travel with DD, always. But I still see the tremendous amount of work the managers have. It's usually everyday, 1-4 hours a day. Then to ask them to manage 24/7 on their weekend ? Why wouldn't they let someone else manage, and just go along for the ride like most of us do ? It's a hard, time consuming, often thankless job. It's well worth what little we may contribute. If you think it's not, try running a team without one.

[cheese]

What about footing the bill for those on the team that just can't afford to make the trip?

[sccraddict]

We ran into this last year on an out of state tournament - most parents were more than happy to pitch in to pay for the players expenses.  In fact I don't think we had one person that didn't want to help......this is about the kids  :mrgreen:

[nosoupforU]

What about footing the bill for those on the team that just can't afford to make the trip?

I think most of us do that without saying. I've kicked in for scholarships, travel expenses, heck even a new pair of boots. It's just money, and when it comes to a kid's life, what could be more important ?

[cheersme95keep]

I was surprised to pay for mgr at U12 (air/hotel).

[PrideNJoy]

like new uniforms every year........if ya don't need anything fancy, why pay for it.  

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