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« on: September 03, 2007, 10:29:23 PM »

Can water being put into the gas tank be fatal to an engine?
If it can be fatal, what are the signs I need to look for?
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 12:54:54 AM »

Don't run it brat, even if if does run.  Drain the tank ASAP, fill it with 100% gas and run it for a few miles.  Not fatal, but purge  the corrosion potential  fast.

If I remember my High Schoo Auto Shop anyways.  :oops:
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 06:48:57 AM »

too late!
Ran great to Aberdeen, sat for 2 days, then back to Nisqually, where it finally gave up, couging and sputtering its last breath!   LOL
I was told that there was either a cracked head or blown head gasket, both of which I know are not good! Oil looked like a grey sludge.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 07:30:43 AM »

Oil like grey sludge is definitely a sign of water inside the engine.  Usually that means a cracked head or gasket, but since you said you introduced the water through the gas that may not be the case.  I would still change the oil and the fuel and try to run it.  Then check the oil again.  That should tell the story.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 07:34:25 AM »

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Oil like grey sludge is definitely a sign of water inside the engine.  Usually that means a cracked head or gasket, but since you said you introduced the water through the gas that may not be the case.  I would still change the oil and the fuel and try to run it.  Then check the oil again.  That should tell the story.


we are having it towed today or tomorrow and having it looked at when it gets here.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 09:56:21 AM »

Not a fun weekend Brat--sorry :(
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 10:06:25 AM »

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Not a fun weekend Brat--sorry :(

Thanks Yote.
It was great until yesterday. :cry:  Jim and the girls went camping ( I stayed home thankfully) and they called to say that the Bratebago was down. They got it off the road and are now waiting to have it towed home.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 10:10:08 AM »

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Not a fun weekend Brat--sorry :(

Thanks Yote.
It was great until yesterday. :cry:  Jim and the girls went camping ( I stayed home thankfully) and they called to say that the Bratebago was down. They got it off the road and are now waiting to have it towed home.


That sucks Brat...... hopefully they had a good weekend besides the break down :|
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 10:13:49 AM »

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Not a fun weekend Brat--sorry :(

Thanks Yote.
It was great until yesterday. :cry:  Jim and the girls went camping ( I stayed home thankfully) and they called to say that the Bratebago was down. They got it off the road and are now waiting to have it towed home.


That sucks Brat...... hopefully they had a good weekend besides the break down :|

The girls got to go quading so they really enjoyed it! Jim had alot of guy friends around so he enjoyed it ( hard being the only male in our house  LOL ) I watched soccer and painted and saw a friend so the weekend was great overall. Not bad considering  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 02:08:07 PM »

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Oil like grey sludge is definitely a sign of water inside the engine.  Usually that means a cracked head or gasket, but since you said you introduced the water through the gas that may not be the case.  I would still change the oil and the fuel and try to run it.  Then check the oil again.  That should tell the story.


water doesn't burn obviously, so it starts building up inside the cylinder walls. Since it doesn't compress either the engine 'hydraulics' in race engine terms. Meaning it either blows the gaskets out, bends a valve or bends a connecting rod. Hopefully Brats Bago engine just popped a head gasket.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 02:54:24 PM »

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Oil like grey sludge is definitely a sign of water inside the engine.  Usually that means a cracked head or gasket, but since you said you introduced the water through the gas that may not be the case.  I would still change the oil and the fuel and try to run it.  Then check the oil again.  That should tell the story.


water doesn't burn obviously, so it starts building up inside the cylinder walls. Since it doesn't compress either the engine 'hydraulics' in race engine terms. Meaning it either blows the gaskets out, bends a valve or bends a connecting rod. Hopefully Brats Bago engine just popped a head gasket.

Thats what I'm praying for! :mrgreen:
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 04:43:44 PM »

:shock:   :shock:   :shock: <THUD>
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2007, 04:53:47 PM »

Not good news I assume :?
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 05:02:08 PM »

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Not good news I assume :?

That thud is just from the #$%TOWING bill! I haven't even got the motor looked at yet.
Looks like I'm going back to work soon!
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2007, 09:09:12 AM »

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Not good news I assume :?

That thud is just from the #$%TOWING bill! I haven't even got the motor looked at yet.
Looks like I'm going back to work soon!


$70-$80 a year for AAA, don't leave home without it. Some credit card companies (the one you have to pay off every month) now have free road side service if you're a card holder.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 09:13:09 AM »

We having towing on teh Vue, but not the RV..... I know better now!  :oops:
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 10:35:51 AM »

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We having towing on teh Vue, but not the RV..... I know better now!  :oops:


would that be an (0)07 'Vue to a kill' ?
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 10:46:05 AM »

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We having towing on teh Vue, but not the RV..... I know better now!  :oops:


would that be an (0)07 'Vue to a kill' ?

I wasn't drinking I swear!
We have towing on the Vue*

That would be a (0) 05 Vue to a kill :mrgreen:
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2007, 10:49:40 AM »

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We having towing on teh Vue, but not the RV..... I know better now!  :oops:


would that be an (0)07 'Vue to a kill' ?

I wasn't drinking I swear!
We have towing on the Vue*

That would be a (0) 05 Vue to a kill :mrgreen:


I was trying to get the James Bond, 007 in there along with the movie title, never mind.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2007, 10:52:45 AM »

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We having towing on teh Vue, but not the RV..... I know better now!  :oops:


would that be an (0)07 'Vue to a kill' ?

I wasn't drinking I swear!
We have towing on the Vue*

That would be a (0) 05 Vue to a kill :mrgreen:


I was trying to get the James Bond, 007 in there along with the movie title, never mind.

I know! LOL
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2007, 11:00:58 AM »

BTW--you never did say how somebody driving the Brattebaggo pulled up to the water fountain vs. the gas pump???  I know this is painful, but I know the answer might be a bit amusing. ;)
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2007, 11:01:35 AM »

Or was it somebody parked next to you at Snoho :evil:
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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2007, 11:04:01 AM »

um  hubby did it.  :oops:
Went to put water into the water tank and opened the gas lid instead. He only put a little into it, so I'm not totally sure thats what killed it. I'm sure it didn't help any!
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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2007, 11:07:26 AM »

I can't believe you ummmm called him out on an open forum :roll:
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2007, 11:09:45 AM »

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um  hubby did it.  :oops:
Went to put water into the water tank and opened the gas lid instead. He only put a little into it, so I'm not totally sure thats what killed it. I'm sure it didn't help any!


no, that's what did it. Water is heavier than gas, so it sinks right to the bottom of the tank. Right where the fuel pump is. If your bago is fuel injected the high pressure fuel pump did it's job and filled up all 8 cylinders with cool, clear, non-compressable, non-flammable H2O. Up to that point the valves were valving, the sparkplugs were sparking and the pistons were,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :shock:  whoops
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2007, 02:18:11 PM »

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I can't believe you ummmm called him out on an open forum :roll:

What was I supposed to do Yote? Lie? lol

I had heard that there were some shenanigans going on up in Snoho ( BF) on Saturday night that some peeps RV's got shaving creamed, EZ ups bent and stuff like that. But thats not where it came from.
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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2007, 03:38:38 PM »

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I can't believe you ummmm called him out on an open forum :roll:

What was I supposed to do Yote? Lie? lol

I had heard that there were some shenanigans going on up in Snoho ( BF) on Saturday night that some peeps RV's got shaving creamed, EZ ups bent and stuff like that. But thats not where it came from.


honestly, this is a VERY common problem. It happens alot more than you'd think. The little doors all look the same for water, gas, etc. I know people who have filled up their water tanks, got in and drove down the road only to run out of gas in 10 miles. And wow doesn't that water taste good after that ?
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