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[Apple]

What will Obama supporters do if he loses to

Clinton even if he gets the majority of the

popular vote and she gets the nomination?

I can only think of the Clash song  - White Riot

Will bedlam arise and anarchy destroy the

democratic party?

I hope

Unity preveils  and No to McCain

No No No McCain!!!!

McCain becoming president would be the

worst situation

Stand together Democrats !!!!  Rise up and

change  8 years of Republican mediocrity

[Dragon]

What will Obama supporters do if he loses to Clinton even if he

gets the majority of the popular vote and she gets the nomination?

I can only think of the Clash song  - White Riot

Will bedlam arise and anarchy destroy the democratic party?

I hope

Unity preveils  and No to McCain

No No No McCain!!!!

McCain becoming president would be the worse situation

Stand together Democrats !!!!  Rise up and change  8 years of

Republican mediocrity

moved this for you bro!

Don't worry..Yes we can.....

One of a Million,
Dragon Hussain

[EWSoccer64]

Errr, Name One meaningful thing that Obama has accomplished,  Ever.  In his life.

(For that matter, name one meaningful that Hillary Rodham Clinton has accomplished)

Personally, I view this election process as really important and historic for our nation.   We have an intelligent black man running against the first serious woman candidate for the presidency.  Both things are a big positive for our nation.  Common wisdom is that no Republican candidate has a chance against the Democratic Nominee.


Right now, I think that Obama will be the next "MCGovern".   Unless the Clinton Dirty Tricks Campaign can derail him before hand.

[cheese]

Errr, Name One meaningful thing that Obama has accomplished,  Ever.  In his life.  
He is a U.S. senator from Illinois.  I would think that alone is meaningful.

(For that matter, name one meaningful that Hillary Rodham Clinton has accomplished)  
She too is a U.S. senator, from New York.  That also is meaningful.  
They just don't had out senator positions......gotta be elected by the people.  Someone liked them enough to put them in office.

Personally, I view this election process as really important and historic for our nation.   We have an intelligent black man running against the first serious woman candidate for the presidency.  Both things are a big positive for our nation.  Common wisdom is that no Republican candidate has a chance against the Democratic Nominee.  
Maybe common wisdom for you but I think you would get a big arguement from the 20+ million that will vote for him.  


Right now, I think that Obama will be the next "MCGovern".   Unless the Clinton Dirty Tricks Campaign can derail him before hand.

[Dragon]

Errr, Name One meaningful thing that Obama has accomplished,  Ever.  In his life.

.

Too many things to list of course.

Go to this ISSUES link:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/


You can then click on which issue you want to know about and read plans and former meaningful things accomplished at the bottom

[93soccerdad]

Errr, Name One meaningful thing that Obama has accomplished,  Ever.  In his life.

.

Too many things to list of course.

Go to this ISSUES link:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/


You can then click on which issue you want to know about and read plans and former meaningful things accomplished at the bottom

I think if anyone is truly interested in the candidates and what they have accomplished, going to their PR site is not the way to do it.  This is all written with appropriate spin...kind of like embellishing your resume! :shock:

It is a lot of work...but listening to speeches and "laundry lists" of accomplishments at any of the candidates personal websites is not going to teach you anything of significance.  As much as I dislike the biased mainstream media, reviewing several liberal and conservative papers/magazines and evaluating them with a critical eye,  will probably get you more of the "truth".

Also, spend some time looking at their voting record and what legislation they supported and proposed.  Again, not from their site, but from an "unbiased source", such as the U.S. Senate site.

[Dragon]

You can do that too :lol:

Or you can just vote for McCain.

Nothing wrong in reading each canidates site though in my opinion.  They can spin all they want, but doubtful any of the canidates would put out and out lies there :roll:


Most of the smarter readers can pick through the "fluff" of any canidate...the morons are the one who go to the far right or far left sites and go around and say things like; "did ya know I heard he swore his oath on the koran", or other idiotic mistruths like that...

Not being mean about calling people morons or idiots, just stating the facts!!!  I know, I work with one :lol:

[Dragon]

Here is a radio station that has "leftys" mostly peep's can listen to if they wish:


http://www.am1090seattle.com/



I am sure some of you can find rushs' station too if you wish, but you can post that yourself :lol:

[Dragon]

Here's the latest from a newsnetwork on diff issues:


From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** How ugly can it get? Doesn't the Clinton campaign want a knife fight? Just as David Brooks notes today, if it drags Obama down to trench warfare, then he loses his place on the nice-guy pedestal. So perhaps it wasn’t surprising that the Clinton camp accused Obama’s team yesterday of acting like Ken Starr, as it began raising legitimate questions about Clinton’s tax records and her actual national security experience. But the Obama folks returned the fire when key adviser Samantha Power called Hillary Clinton a “monster” in an interview with The Scotsman, which was then amplified by Drudge. Power immediately apologized. No doubt that these two campaigns don’t like each other, and as the Clinton-Obama race has gone on for 13-plus months, the campaigns and their candidates are bound to let their frustrations out (remember that Myrtle Beach debate?). But as Brooks points out, Obama -- with both his delegate lead and his politics of hope -- does have more to lose as things get ugly.  

*** The cowboy way: With Saturday’s Wyoming caucuses and then Mississippi’s primary three days later, Obama has the opportunity to cut into -- or erase -- the delegates that Clinton gained on Junior Super Tuesday. At stake in Wyoming are 12 pledged delegates, and the majority of caucus sites open at either 11:00 am ET or noon ET; the latest sites open at 6:00 pm ET (Teton County). Presidential preference votes will be held about 12 minutes into the caucuses, right after Clinton and Obama are “nominated,” “seconded” and two- to- three-minute appeals arguments are made for each candidate. The way the caucuses work, though, varies. Some counties do divisions like in Iowa but without realignments or thresholds. Others use ballots.

*** PA vs. NC: Speaking of upcoming contests, the press has completely bought into Pennsylvania as the next big contest. But there's another very large delegate prize two weeks later -- North Carolina. What's interesting about the two states is that one is a Clinton stronghold (PA) and one is an Obama stronghold (NC). Both campaigns are trying to downplay the other state, but shouldn’t we be judging the two together? Who performs better on the other's turf? The two states represent two different theories of the general election the two campaigns are pushing forward. Clinton's campaign is basically saying they'll use the Gore-Kerry map and get to 270 (win OH or FL). Obama's saying he'll create a new map with states like North Carolina being put in play. This will be the ultimate decision of the superdelegates -- which path do they want the party to go on? Eugene Robinson also makes this good point today: "But it's an odd kind of momentum that we're being asked to appreciate. Apparently, the contests in Wyoming and Mississippi won't count if Obama wins them, because that's what everyone expects. The April 22 primary in Pennsylvania will definitely count if Clinton wins, however, even though that's what everyone expects. To paraphrase Orwell, some states are more equal than others."

*** A compromise for Michigan? The big papers today are flush with stories about what to do with Florida and Michigan. A top Democrat in Michigan tells NBC’s Andrea Mitchell that both campaigns are communicating through Michigan party leaders and zeroing in on a plan for so-called "firehouse caucuses" or caucus-primaries in May or June to redo the Michigan voting. Democrats in Michigan say they have a tradition of voting this way in the past. And since people come to firehouses, vote and leave in a closed way, it would not violate Hillary Clinton's opposition to traditional caucuses where people have only a set time to show up and openly discuss their preferences. But how does the state get around Gov. Granholm's objection that Michigan taxpayers foot the bill? Per Mitchell, sources say the candidates would be asked to raise the money, and there is no legal obstacle to them finding private funds for the redo. If Michigan does agree to a redo -- and because Obama's name wasn't on the ballot before, it's probably a given it will -- what kind of pressure will Florida feel to follow suit?

*** The DNC’s money woes: One reason why we shouldn’t expect the DNC to foot the bill for do-overs in Florida and Michigan? It doesn’t have that much money. As the New York Times writes, the DNC “ended 2007 nearly flat broke, with cash of $2.9 million and debts of $2.2 million. Since then it has raised some money, paid down debt and managed to put $3.7 million in its piggy bank. This compares, however, with $25 million that the Republican National Committee has in cash on hand, after having raised $97 million since the beginning of 2007.” With the Clinton-Obama race perhaps going on until the convention, the DNC will have to be the principle vehicle to take on McCain, and so it will need every cent it has. The lack of money for the DNC is a real head-scratcher. Check out how flush the DSCC and the DCCC are, as well as the two presidential candidates. Why can't the DNC raise any money? It's mind-boggling, frankly, and the only thing keeping the GOP in the game financially. Meanwhile, McCain's putting his imprint on the RNC by naming three finance operatives and one political operative.  

*** On the trail: Clinton campaigns in Mississippi before heading to Wyoming, where she visits Cheyenne and Casper; McCain stumps in Georgia and then raises money in New Orleans and Phoenix; and Obama, in Wyoming holds a town hall in Casper and an evening rally in Laramie. Also, Bill Clinton lays the groundwork in Pennsylvania with two stops there before going to Mississippi.

[PrideNJoy]

Errr, Name One meaningful thing that Obama has accomplished,  Ever.  In his life.

(For that matter, name one meaningful that Hillary Rodham Clinton has accomplished)

Personally, I view this election process as really important and historic for our nation.   We have an intelligent black man running against the first serious woman candidate for the presidency.  Both things are a big positive for our nation.  Common wisdom is that no Republican candidate has a chance against the Democratic Nominee.


Right now, I think that Obama will be the next "MCGovern".   Unless the Clinton Dirty Tricks Campaign can derail him before hand.

tell me what Lincoln did of great import before being elected?  Heck, how about JFK?  I could go on.  point is, to me any way, there's too much politics in politics and just having political experience doesn't make you the best candidate.  Please folks, don't let the experience angle be a factor.  It's time for change, it's not been working well in the new era of politics.

great post EW, as usual!  good stuff

[cheese]

So then on that note........What experience did George W. Bush have before being elected?

Where did that get us?

[PrideNJoy]

So then on that note........What experience did George W. Bush have before being elected?

Where did that get us?

OIL!!!!  what else .  thankfully neither party candidates are in that bucket of worms.  point taken, but please, don't compare your bush apples to my JFK  ones

[cheese]

So then on that note........What experience did George W. Bush have before being elected?

Where did that get us?

OIL!!!!  what else .  thankfully neither party candidates are in that bucket of worms.  point taken, but please, don't compare your bush apples to my JFK  ones

I'm not.  :mrgreen:

I saw a documentary on Lincoln.  Seems a large amount of the population (in that day) didn't think he did a good job.  It wasn't until years later he was seen as one of the best.
Time will tell on each and every pres.

Experience or not, they will have a full group of people deciding the direction of the country.  The pres is just a public figure.....with a few perks.  

[PrideNJoy]

So then on that note........What experience did George W. Bush have before being elected?

Where did that get us?

OIL!!!!  what else .  thankfully neither party candidates are in that bucket of worms.  point taken, but please, don't compare your bush apples to my JFK  ones

I'm not.  :mrgreen:

I saw a documentary on Lincoln.  Seems a large amount of the population (in that day) didn't think he did a good job.  It wasn't until years later he was seen as one of the best.
Time will tell on each and every pres.

Experience or not, they will have a full group of people deciding the direction of the country.  The pres is just a public figure.....with a few perks.  

yeah, true dat.  I'm just pleased all those in the game are well spoken compared to the little g.  that guy is worse than paula abdul, and that's bad, so they got that goin for em, public figuratively speaking

[cheese]

Lincoln.......JFK........both with little experience.

Ended their terms the same.  :shock:

How about Largent for Pres.  

[PrideNJoy]

I think you're cheese has green hairy patches and smells funny

you're just in a stinker mood today this year aren't you lol

[cheese]

It is true tho.  They both got shot.  :shock:

Largent would be the best pres ever.  A leader with hands that can catch everything.  
He would just have to show the clip of him knocking out that Bronco defender......nations would be in shock and awe.  :twisted:

[PrideNJoy]

It is true tho.  They both got shot.  :shock:

Largent would be the best pres ever.  A leader with hands that can catch everything.  
He would just have to show the clip of him knocking out that Bronco defender......nations would be in shock and awe.  :twisted:

lol, he talks slow but stays on track ....one of the best....or was that runs slow and runs perfect routes?

he lost cred with me though, if he can't stand up to Seahawks management to appease a certain Jerry Rice and not allow his number to be given away after hanging in the Ring of Honor, then how is he gonna stand up and take out the invisible wmd's?

i get your points, you're not easily rattled......thought you'd be easier prey than Dragon but Nooooooo

^5 dude!

[cheese]

lol, he talks slow but stays on track ....one of the best....or was that runs slow and runs perfect routes?

he lost cred with me though, if he can't stand up to Seahawks management to appease a certain Jerry Rice and not allow his number to be given away after hanging in the Ring of Honor, then how is he gonna stand up and take out the invisible wmd's?

i get your points, you're not easily rattled......thought you'd be easier prey than Dragon but Nooooooo

^5 dude!

Hard to rattle cheese.  Cheese has thick green outside that turns most stomachs. :roll:   Better anyday then that green scaley scary dragon.  :twisted:

[PrideNJoy]

hahahahaha......and I don't chuckle easily!  beautiful stuff

[cheese]

And what's really cool is I can post what I want in this particular forum and Dragon can't modify it......cuz he ain't the moderator in here.  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:

Some things get a little (shall I say) twisted around in the other forums.  :shock:

[PrideNJoy]

yeah, i've been fodder for some button pushing liberties and know what you mean.  I've learned to keep it light with D on late nights when he's all alone in the blah blah .....he OWNES!  

obma and NWN 08

[Dragon]

Kiss my butt you two fruits :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

(moderate that)

[PrideNJoy]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa.....too good!!!

btw.......when little bush took office, gas was around $1.40 a gallon, today it's reaching towards $4.00 per....

mission accomplished eh gee dub?  litlle dickey and georgie boy laughing all the way to the bank (close your eyes and picture gw laughing....cmon, you can hear it....he almost snorts when laughing)

 :cry:

[cheese]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa.....too good!!!

btw.......when little bush took office, gas was around $1.40 a gallon, today it's reaching towards $4.00 per....

mission accomplished eh gee dub?  litlle dickey and georgie boy laughing all the way to the bank (close your eyes and picture gw laughing....cmon, you can hear it....he almost snorts when laughing)

 :cry:

Why do you think he was tap dancing the other day.  :roll:

[PrideNJoy]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa.....too good!!!

btw.......when little bush took office, gas was around $1.40 a gallon, today it's reaching towards $4.00 per....

mission accomplished eh gee dub?  litlle dickey and georgie boy laughing all the way to the bank (close your eyes and picture gw laughing....cmon, you can hear it....he almost snorts when laughing)

 :cry:

Why do you think he was tap dancing the other day.  :roll:

there was some sarcastic truth laid in there.  truth is domestic oil prices went way up making them all the richer.  sarcasm (yet sad) was pointing to the fact that foreign oil...such as that from Iraq......costs more now due directly to US occupation in Iraq.  bushy administration may claim it's not an oil war, but is obviously a weapon aimed directly at the US.  a gallon of gas costs between 5 and 10 cents in Iraq.  They're even importing from Kuwait to control another possible supply increase point and keep hitting US in the wallet.  

mission accomplished on both sides I suppose in the oil game.

tap tap tap, dancing

[93soccerdad]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa.....too good!!!

btw.......when little bush took office, gas was around $1.40 a gallon, today it's reaching towards $4.00 per....

mission accomplished eh gee dub?  litlle dickey and georgie boy laughing all the way to the bank (close your eyes and picture gw laughing....cmon, you can hear it....he almost snorts when laughing)

 :cry:

Why do you think he was tap dancing the other day.  :roll:

there was some sarcastic truth laid in there.  truth is domestic oil prices went way up making them all the richer.  sarcasm (yet sad) was pointing to the fact that foreign oil...such as that from Iraq......costs more now due directly to US occupation in Iraq.  bushy administration may claim it's not an oil war, but is obviously a weapon aimed directly at the US.  a gallon of gas costs between 5 and 10 cents in Iraq.  They're even importing from Kuwait to control another possible supply increase point and keep hitting US in the wallet.  

mission accomplished on both sides I suppose in the oil game.

tap tap tap, dancing

When did  we occupy Iraq??

[PrideNJoy]

hahahahaaaaaaaaa.....too good!!!

btw.......when little bush took office, gas was around $1.40 a gallon, today it's reaching towards $4.00 per....

mission accomplished eh gee dub?  litlle dickey and georgie boy laughing all the way to the bank (close your eyes and picture gw laughing....cmon, you can hear it....he almost snorts when laughing)

 :cry:

Why do you think he was tap dancing the other day.  :roll:

there was some sarcastic truth laid in there.  truth is domestic oil prices went way up making them all the richer.  sarcasm (yet sad) was pointing to the fact that foreign oil...such as that from Iraq......costs more now due directly to US occupation in Iraq.  bushy administration may claim it's not an oil war, but is obviously a weapon aimed directly at the US.  a gallon of gas costs between 5 and 10 cents in Iraq.  They're even importing from Kuwait to control another possible supply increase point and keep hitting US in the wallet.  

mission accomplished on both sides I suppose in the oil game.

tap tap tap, dancing

When did  we occupy Iraq??

you're joking right?

[kennard04]

What will Obama supporters do if he loses to

Clinton even if he gets the majority of the

popular vote and she gets the nomination?

I can only think of the Clash song  - White Riot

Will bedlam arise and anarchy destroy the

democratic party?

I hope

Unity preveils  and No to McCain

No No No McCain!!!!

McCain becoming president would be the

worst situation

Stand together Democrats !!!!  Rise up and

change  8 years of Republican mediocrity

Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General election:

                  CAPITAL GAINS TAX

                  MCCAIN
                  15% (no change)

                  OBAMA
                  28%

                  CLINTON
                  24%

                  How does this affect you? If you sell your home and
                  make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
                  If you are heading toward retirement and would like to
                  down-size your home or move into a retirement
                  community, 28% of the money you make from your home
                  will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect
                  the elderly who are counting on the income from their
                  homes as part of their retirement income.

                  DIVIDEND TAX

                  MCCAIN
                  15% (no change)

                  OBAMA
                  39.6%

                  CLINTON
                  39.6%

                  How will this affect you? If you have any money
                  invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college
                  funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or
                  anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will
                  now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes
                  if Obama or Clinton become president. The experts
                  predict that "Higher tax rates on dividends and
                  capital gains would crash the stock market yet do
                  absolutely nothing to cut the deficit."

                  INCOME TAX

                  MCCAIN
                  (no changes)
                  Single making 30K - tax $4,500
                  Single making 50K - tax $12,500
                  Single making 75K - tax $18,750
                  Married making 60K- tax $9,000
                  Married making 75K - tax $18,750
                  Married making 125K - tax $31,250

                  OBAMA
                  (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
                  Single making 30K - tax $8,400
                  Single making 50K - tax $14,000
                  Single making 75K - tax $23,250
                  Married making 60K - tax $16,800
                  Married making 75K - tax $21,000
                  Married making 125K - tax $38,750

                  CLINTON
                  (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
                  Single making 30K - tax $8,400
                  Single making 50K - tax $14,000
                  Single making 75K - tax $23,250
                  Married making 60K - tax $16,800
                  Married making 75K - tax $21,000
                  Married making 125K - tax $38,750

                  How does this affect you? No explanation needed. This
                  is pretty straight forward.

                  INHERITANCE TAX

                  MCCAIN
                  0%
                  (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

                  OBAMA
                  keep the inheritance tax

                  CLINTON
                  keep the inheritance tax

                  How does this affect you? Many families have lost
                  businesses, farms and ranches, and homes that have
                  been in their families for generations because they
                  could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing
                  their assets to loved ones will not only lose them to
                  these taxes.

                  NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY BOTH CLINTON AND OBAMA

                  * New government taxes proposed on homes that are more
                  than 2400 square feet
                  * New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough
                  already)
                  * New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating
                  gas, water, electricity)
                  * New taxes on retirement accounts
                  and last but not least....
                  * New taxes to pay for socialized m edicine so we can
                  receive the same level of medical care as other
                  third-world countries!!!

                  Can you afford Clinton or Obama? I can't!

                  In case you want more information on Obama's tax and
                  spend agenda:

                  If Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) Could Enact All Of His
                  Campaign Proposals, Taxpayers Would Be Faced With
                  Financing $874.35 Billion In New Spending Over One
                  White House Term:

                  Updated February 14, 2008: Obama's National
                  Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank Will Cost $60 Billion
                  Over Ten Years; Equal To $6 Billion A Year And $24
                  Billion Over Four Years. Obama: "I'm proposing a
                  National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will
                  invest $60 billion over ten years." (Sen. Barack
                  Obama, Remarks On Economic Policy, Janesville, WI,
                  2/13/08)

                  Obama's Health Care Plan Will Cost Up To $65 Billion A
                  Year; Equal To $260 Billion Over Four Years. "[Obama]
                  campaign officials estimated that the net cost of the
                  plan to the federal government would be $50 billion to
                  $65 billion a year, when fully phased in, and said the
                  revenues from rolling back the tax cuts were enough to
                  cover it." (Robin Toner and Patrick Healy, "Obama
                  Calls For Wider And Less Costly Health Care Coverage,"
                  The New York Times, 5/30/07)

                  Obama's Energy Plan Will Cost $150 Billion over 10
                  Years, Equal To $15 Billion Annually And $60 Billion
                  Over Four Years. "Obama will invest $150 billion over
                  10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels
                  and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the
                  commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote
                  development of commercial-scale renewable energy,
                  invest in low-emissions coal plants, and begin the
                  transition to a new digital electricity grid." (Obama
                  For America, "The Blueprint For Change,"
                  www.barackobama.com ,
                  Accessed 1/14/08, p. 25)

                  Obama's Tax Plan Will Cost Approximately $85 Bil lion A
                  Year; Equal To $340 Billion Over Four Years.
                  "[Obama's] proposed tax cuts and credits, aimed at
                  workers earning $50,000 or less per year, would cost
                  the Treasury an estimated $85 billion annually."
                  (Margaret Talev, "Obama Proposes Tax Code Overhaul To
                  Help The Poor," McClatchy Newspapers, 9/19/07)

                  Obama's Plan Would Raise Taxes On Capital Gains And
                  Dividends, And On Carried Interest. Obama's tax plan
                  includes: "ncreasing the highest bracket for
                  capital gains and dividends and closing the carried
                  interest loophole." (Obama For America, "Barack Obama:
                  Tax Fairness For The Middle Class," Fact Sheet,
                  www.barackobama.com

                  , Accessed 1/8/08)

                  Obama's Economic Stimulus Package Will Cost $75
                  Billion. "Barack Obama's economic plan will inject $75
                  billion of stimulus into the economy by getting money
                  in the form of tax cuts and direct spending dir ectly
                  to the people who need it most." (Obama For America,
                  "Barack Obama's Plan To Stimulate The Economy," Fact
                  Sheet, www.barackobama.com

                  , 1/13/08)

                  Obama's Early Education And K-12 Package Will Cost $18
                  Billion A Year; Equal To $72 Billion Over Four Years.
                  "Barack Obama's early education and K-12 plan package
                  costs about $18 billion per year." (Obama For America,
                  "Barack Obama's Plan For Lifetime Success Through
                  Education," Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com

                  , 11/20/07, p. 15)

                  Obama's National Service Plan Will Cost $3.5 Billion A
                  Year; Equal To $14 Billion Over Four Years. "Barack
                  Obama's national service plan will cost about $3.5
                  billion per year when it is fully implemented." (Obama
                  For America, "Helping All Americans Serve Their
                  Country: Barack Obama's Plan For Universal Voluntary
                  Cit izen Service," Fact Sheet, www.barackobama.com

                  , 12/5/07)

                  Obama Will Increase Our Foreign Assistance Funding By
                  $25 Billion. "Obama will embrace the Millennium
                  Development Goal of cutting extreme poverty around the
                  world in half by 2015, and he will double our foreign
                  assistance to $50 billion to achieve that goal."
                  (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change,"
                  www.barackobama.com

                  , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 53)

                  Obama Will Provide $2 Billion To Aid Iraqi Refugees.
                  "He will provide at least $2 billion to expand
                  services to Iraqi refugees in neighboring countries,
                  and ensure that Iraqis inside their own country can
                  find a safe-haven." (Obama For America, "The Blueprint
                  For Change," www.barackobama.com

                  , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 51)

                  Obama Will Provide $1.5 Billion To Help States Adopt
                  Paid-Leave Systems. "As president, Obama will initiate
                  a strategy to encourage all 50 states to adopt
                  paid-leave systems. Obama will provide a $1.5 billion
                  fund to assist states with start-up costs and to help
                  states offset the costs for employees and employers."
                  (Obama For America, "The Blueprint For Change,"
                  www.barackobama.com

                  , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 15)

                  Obama Will Provide $1 Billion Over 5 Years For
                  Transitional Jobs And Career Pathway Programs, Equal
                  To $200 Million A Year And $800 Million Over Four
                  Years. "Obama will invest $1 billion over five years
                  in transitional jobs and career pathway programs that
                  implement proven methods of helping low-income
                  Americans succeed in the workforce." (Obama For
                  America, "The Blueprint For Change,"
                  www.barackobama.com

                  , Accessed 1/14/08, p. 42)

                  Obama Will Provide $50 Million To Jump-Start The
                  Creation Of An IAEA-Controlled Nuclear Fuel Bank.
                  Obama: "We must also stop the spread of nuclear
                  weapons technology and ensure that countries cannot
                  build -- or come to the brink of building -- a weapons
                  program under the auspices of developing peaceful
                  nuclear power. That is why my administration will
                  immediately provide $50 million to jump-start the
                  creation of an International Atomic Energy
                  Agency-controlled nuclear fuel bank and work to update
                  the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty." (Sen. Barack
                  Obama, "Renewing American Leadership," Foreign
                  Affairs, 7-8/07)

[AbeFroman]

To condense your post, K, both Clinton and Obama would change the tax code back to where it was during the 1990's - more heavily on the higher income brackets.  

You remember the Clinton economy - when the budget was balanced and the economy was going strong.  

I'll take it.