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« on: May 01, 2008, 11:44:15 AM »

This topic came up at a recent practice between us parents. When PDL gets made in groups ov six what teams should be in the groups :?: Here is what I wrot down on my starbucks napkin from our talks

In no particular order

    PDL A
    * Crossfire A
    * EFC Red
    * ECFC Green
    * NWN Red
    * Snohomish A
    * Vancouver Courage
     [/list]

      PDL B
      * WPFC Black
      * Crossfire B
      * Spokane Shadow
      * FCA Gold
      * 3 Rivers Rage
      * ECFC White
      [/list]

        PDL C
        * Evergreen
        * Westsound
        * Reign Purple
        * WPFC White
        * EFC White
        * NWN Blue
         [/list]
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        Re: PDL A B & C
        « Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 11:50:07 AM »

        Quote from: "Psycho"
        This topic came up at a recent practice between us parents. When PDL gets made in groups ov six what teams should be in the groups :?: Here is what I wrot down on my starbucks napkin from our talks

        In no particular order

          PDL A
          * Crossfire A
          * EFC Red
          * ECFC Green
          * NWN Red
          * Snohomish A
          * Vancouver Courage
           [/list]

            PDL B
            * WPFC Black
            * Crossfire B
            * Spokane Shadow
            * FCA Gold
            * 3 Rivers Rage
            * ECFC White
            [/list]

              PDL C
              * Evergreen
              * Westsound
              * Reign Purple
              * WPFC White
              * EFC White
              * NWN Blue
               [/list]


              What Age Group? Its kind of important
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              « Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 11:53:22 AM »

              Assume your talking GU-12.  Think WPFC may have issue with not being in the top 6.  Where is Harbor FC, they certainly have to at least be in the second group?
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              « Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 11:54:36 AM »

              I am talking about GU13 the 95 age group.
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              « Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 11:57:25 AM »

              I take issue that WPFC White gets bumped to the "C" group!  :P
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              « Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 11:57:27 AM »

              Classic, you could make argument for the same in GU-12.
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              « Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 12:03:30 PM »

              I dont know who the U12s are so you can be right :!: This is PDL groups and Harbor is not PDL group in 95 girls and they cant be there.

              Sory to put WPFC White in lower braket. I'm sure they are good kids but I dont think they are better enough to play inn those group above. This was only the list that was come up with as a group of parents in the rain won practice.
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              « Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 12:18:01 PM »

              Quote from: "Psycho"
              I dont know who the U12s are so you can be right :!: This is PDL groups and Harbor is not PDL group in 95 girls and they cant be there.
              Sory to put WPFC White in lower braket. I'm sure they are good kids but I dont think they are better enough to play inn those group above. This was only the list that was come up with as a group of parents in the rain won practice.


              What do you mean Harbor is not PDL group? They have 1-2 teams at each age group in PDL from U11 to U15.
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              « Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 12:20:34 PM »

              Harbor is PDL, they were in the C group I believe.
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              « Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 12:23:30 PM »

              I was under the impression this (6 in a group) was by Clubs, not team by team, gender by gender and then age group by age group.

              Does anbody know for sure?
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              « Reply #10 on: May 01, 2008, 12:33:36 PM »

              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Harbor is PDL, they were in the C group I believe.


              Maby I am wrong If I am then Harbor at GU95 should be in D so it doesnt matter for the point of this thread anyway. Sorry you all got your panties in a bunch over Harbor.
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              « Reply #11 on: May 01, 2008, 12:37:38 PM »

              Curious, everybody has there way to evaluate the teams.  Some with mathmatical equations, some with emotion, some with darts, some a combination.  How does a psycho do theirs?
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              « Reply #12 on: May 01, 2008, 12:45:24 PM »

              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Curious, everybody has there way to evaluate the teams.  Some with mathmatical equations, some with emotion, some with darts, some a combination.  How does a psycho do theirs?


              MONEY?
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              « Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 12:46:17 PM »

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              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Harbor is PDL, they were in the C group I believe.


              Maby I am wrong If I am then Harbor at GU95 should be in D so it doesnt matter for the point of this thread anyway. Sorry you all got your panties in a bunch over Harbor.


              Psycho, your reasoning interests me.  How does a team that lost in the Challenge cup final end up in the D bracket and a team that losses on the elimination round (cross-B) get placed in the B bracket?
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              « Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 12:48:21 PM »

              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Curious, everybody has there way to evaluate the teams.  Some with mathmatical equations, some with emotion, some with darts, some a combination.  How does a psycho do theirs?


              Thats a stupid question what does it matter how I come up with that grouping :?: If the list is a good one it will stand up to challenge and who cares if it was a matematical formula would that somhow be better than other way :?: I think the PDL people use darts after beers so its a dangerous night to be at Mad Pizza :lol:
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              « Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 12:51:58 PM »

              where would HPFC fall ??? :shock:
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              « Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 12:52:35 PM »

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              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Curious, everybody has there way to evaluate the teams.  Some with mathmatical equations, some with emotion, some with darts, some a combination.  How does a psycho do theirs?


              Thats a stupid question what does it matter how I come up with that grouping :?: If the list is a good one it will stand up to challenge and who cares if it was a matematical formula would that somhow be better than other way :?: I think the PDL people use darts after beers so its a dangerous night to be at Mad Pizza :lol:


              It matters in how we respond.  If it is emotion there is not reason to strike up a dialog because when people make choice based on emotion they have already talked them self into believing bull.  If it is mathmatical I am a nerd and would like to see how you did it.  If it is money I would like to open my bank account to post stupid stuff :lol:
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              « Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 01:01:52 PM »

              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Quote from: "Psycho"
              Quote from: "Gunner"
              Curious, everybody has there way to evaluate the teams.  Some with mathmatical equations, some with emotion, some with darts, some a combination.  How does a psycho do theirs?


              Thats a stupid question what does it matter how I come up with that grouping :?: If the list is a good one it will stand up to challenge and who cares if it was a matematical formula would that somhow be better than other way :?: I think the PDL people use darts after beers so its a dangerous night to be at Mad Pizza :lol:


              It matters in how we respond.  If it is emotion there is not reason to strike up a dialog because when people make choice based on emotion they have already talked them self into believing bull.  If it is mathmatical I am a nerd and would like to see how you did it.  If it is money I would like to open my bank account to post stupid stuff :lol:


              I think you just did and it didnt cost you a cent :!: :lol: It is mathmatical I got the fomula from the BCS and input the girls soccer and got a list and divided by 6 to get the cut points.... You are so smelly if you are still reading this :!: Of course this is emotion because I feel this is the best way to group the teams and I also think it the best division of teams how do you mathmaticaly figure that one out anyway :?: Are you even a GU95 parent :?:
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              « Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 01:04:03 PM »

              Thank you.  I am a parent.
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              « Reply #19 on: May 01, 2008, 01:06:04 PM »

              You forgot the Timbers.....

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              « Reply #20 on: May 01, 2008, 01:10:39 PM »

              Psycho - maybe you should change your formula.....you missed a lot of teams that are more deserving.  Just out of curiosity, which team are you afiliated with??
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              « Reply #21 on: May 01, 2008, 01:26:09 PM »

              This was just for GU13 PDL groups A, B, C and assuming the PDL freeks will put only six teams in each goup this year and this is how the groups would go didnt you read the first post :?:

              HPFC would go in a D group with Harbor :D and I am reallly confused now when did the Columbia Premier get in to PDL because if they are in PDL they would make it in either group A or B but that is hard to say.
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              « Reply #22 on: May 01, 2008, 01:28:16 PM »

              Quote from: "Old Dog"
              I was under the impression this (6 in a group) was by Clubs, not team by team, gender by gender and then age group by age group.

              Does anbody know for sure?


              I too thought this was by Club not team by team.....and WPFC not in the top 6.......Was this Starbucks in Amsterdam??  :shock:
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              « Reply #23 on: May 01, 2008, 02:09:18 PM »

              I heard nothing is ever decided until the keg is tapped in the PDL BOD meeting room. Only after many many sippy cups full out of the keg are all the other clubs placed under their 6 clubs.

              It's not done on merit fools, it's done on good old boys club......now GET IT STRAIGHT!!!!! GET BACK IN LINE AND SHUT UP!!!!

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              « Reply #24 on: May 01, 2008, 02:18:25 PM »

              Quote from: "Squash"
              I heard nothing is ever decided until the keg is tapped in the PDL BOD meeting room. Only after many many sippy cups full out of the keg are all the other clubs placed under their 6 clubs.

              It's not done on merit fools, it's done on good old boys club......now GET IT STRAIGHT!!!!! GET BACK IN LINE AND SHUT UP!!!!

               ;)


              Wait a minute, there's beer  :shock:   What kind of beer :?:
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              « Reply #25 on: May 01, 2008, 02:21:32 PM »

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              Quote from: "Squash"
              I heard nothing is ever decided until the keg is tapped in the PDL BOD meeting room. Only after many many sippy cups full out of the keg are all the other clubs placed under their 6 clubs.

              It's not done on merit fools, it's done on good old boys club......now GET IT STRAIGHT!!!!! GET BACK IN LINE AND SHUT UP!!!!

               ;)


              Wait a minute, there's beer  :shock:   What kind of beer :?:


              The kind they buy with your money  ;)  :lol:
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              « Reply #26 on: May 01, 2008, 02:23:30 PM »

              :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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              « Reply #27 on: May 01, 2008, 02:24:32 PM »

              If one goes to the PDL site, it states that it will be done by 'club points' as accumulated during the state, challenge and commissioner's cup.  There's no allowance for age and/or gender.  Top six clubs would be Crossfire, EFC, ECFC, NWN, Timbers and WPFC.  But at this point, it's been said that the PDL is going to 6 team leagues, but I haven't seen it anywhere in print.  Also, the 'pt. process' raises the question of "B" team placement from a club.  And of course if the goal of the PDL is like competition, going by accumulated pts. in cup play could lead to a team of lesser quality being placed in a higher division due to the club's rather than the team's performance, resulting in 'unequal' competition.  Of course, it could work the other way around too, i.e., a good team in an overall weaker club playing at a lower level.
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              « Reply #28 on: May 01, 2008, 02:30:36 PM »

              Quote from: "famj"
              If one goes to the PDL site, it states that it will be done by 'club points' as accumulated during the state, challenge and commissioner's cup.  There's no allowance for age and/or gender.  Top six clubs would be Crossfire, EFC, ECFC, NWN, Timbers and WPFC.  But at this point, it's been said that the PDL is going to 6 team leagues, but I haven't seen it anywhere in print.  Also, the 'pt. process' raises the question of "B" team placement from a club.  And of course if the goal of the PDL is like competition, going by accumulated pts. in cup play could lead to a team of lesser quality being placed in a higher division due to the club's rather than the team's performance, resulting in 'unequal' competition.  Of course, it could work the other way around too, i.e., a good team in an overall weaker club playing at a lower level.


              Oh who cares about this,  They're using my money to buy beer  :x    This is worse then those nagging PPFC guys saying they're having a tailgate party at the Spring Classic and not showing up  :x
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              « Reply #29 on: May 01, 2008, 02:35:44 PM »

              Quote from: "famj"
              If one goes to the PDL site, it states that it will be done by 'club points' as accumulated during the state, challenge and commissioner's cup.  There's no allowance for age and/or gender.  Top six clubs would be Crossfire, EFC, ECFC, NWN, Timbers and WPFC.  But at this point, it's been said that the PDL is going to 6 team leagues, but I haven't seen it anywhere in print.  Also, the 'pt. process' raises the question of "B" team placement from a club.  And of course if the goal of the PDL is like competition, going by accumulated pts. in cup play could lead to a team of lesser quality being placed in a higher division due to the club's rather than the team's performance, resulting in 'unequal' competition.  Of course, it could work the other way around too, i.e., a good team in an overall weaker club playing at a lower level.


              It's why LPT's was better....it was based on merit and play on the field. Then again LPT's was a system the few the proud the PDL board couldn't control. I mean who the hell wants to reward teams like Santo's and Fenix both in the semi's at U-18 girls for state cup for working their tails off and getting quality coaching.......those bastards are stealing our kids!!!! ;)  THAT SHALL NO LONGER HAPPEN...WE HAVE SPOKEN!!!!  :lol:  Eeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhh EEEEEEEaaaaaaAAAhHHHH
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