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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2008, 11:09:47 AM »

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This was in the last pulse.  Maybe we should bring in the Brazalians to coach our kids.  They may even work cheaper the the English coaches.  ;)  BM



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Did you ever wonder how soccer got so popular in the United States? I did. I know it is the world game. But in the US we have our own games: Baseball, Football (American Style) and Basketball. All right up there with apple pie. I think soccer is an interesting sport, if you’re ok with not a lot of scoring. Americans like scoring, that is why they added the Designated Hitter to baseball over thirty years ago.
Soccer is called the beautiful game. I am not quite sure why. Most of the players would not win any kind of beauty contest. Unless of course, you were judging their tattoos. I think it might have something to do with how some of the players move with the ball. Look at Ronaldino or Cristiano Ronaldo. They are very "beautiful" with the ball.
Which brings me to another thought, why are we hiring all of these English coaches to teach our kids soccer? England has only won one World Cup. Shouldn’t we find the best coaches in the world to train our kids? This is America. I think the Brazilians (5 World Cups) or the Italians (4 World Cups) or even the Germans (3 World Cups) could do a better job. They must be doing something right with all of those championships. The Brazilians call it Joga Bonito or “ Nice Play” in Portuguese. I don’t speak Portuguese. Maybe that is why we don't use the Brazilians. The British coaches almost speak English. So, our kids can understand them better than the Italians. The Italians could teach them the proper "diving" technique. But the Germans all speak good English, so why not give them a try. As a matter of fact the German women won the last Woman’s World Cup, their second is a row.
We could look at the club teams around the world too. This year the UEFA Champions league championship, has two English Premier League teams. But Chelsea’s coach Avram Grant is from Israel. And Manchester United’s coach Sir Alex Ferguson is from Scotland. I guess that is close enough for the English coaches. Scotland is part of the kingdom.
I think we may want to have American coaches coaching our girls. The Women’s National Team has won two Women’s World Cups. They are tied with the Germans for World Cup victories. I also think it would be nice to see some of these women coaching our girls. What great roll models. I think all the girls can look up to the Mia Hamm’s and Brandi Chastain’s. Maybe that is why they call it the beautiful game. I still remember when Brandi took off her jersey after scoring that PK in the World Cup. It is not that she took off her jersey. It is the fact that she scored the penalty kick goal to win the World Cup. A generation of Americans has now grown up with soccer. And Americans love winners. I think that is why this sport is becoming so popular.
Next time I will cover the Off Side Law in soccer, that shouldn’t take long to explain.


So why do we pay so much money for English Coaches? Cause they have UEFA licenses, FA Licenses and they are all semi-pro coaches. What the heck is a semi-pro? :mrgreen:  

From Wikepidia:
A semi-professional athlete is one who is paid to play and thus is not an amateur, but for whom sport is not a full-time occupation, generally because the level of pay is too low to make a reasonable living based solely upon that source, thus making the athlete not a full professional athlete.

In the United Kingdom there are many semi-professional football teams at non-League level. The bottom division of The Football League (the fourth tier of the English football league system) has traditionally been the cut-off between professional ("full-time") and semi-professional ("part-time") in English football. However, many teams in the top non-league competition (the Football Conference) have become "full-time" in an effort to achieve league status.

This sounds like our baseball and basketball leagues that are all around- hmm are these players the best coaches? who knows- not bashing the fact that they played, I am more less trying to bring to light that there seems to be a lot of semi-pro coaches from England for a reason. I am sure there are a lot of semi-pro b-ball coaches from the US in Europe :mrgreen:  :lol:
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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2008, 11:10:01 AM »

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Brian, what do you think is an appropriate cost for a U11 player for a year of training, games, tourneys, etc within a top level PDL club?

How about at U14?

How about at U17?

Just wondering as I think the answer as it stands now is more at U11 than at the older ages and I find that just wrong.


I am not sure what the cost should be for U-11.  I do think the cost should be more for U-11 than U-17.  If it is done right.  Which in most cases it is not.  The younger ages should cost more,  but the coaches and trainers should spend more time with the kids.  First touch and skill training should be at the forefront.  Teh only way to become a good soccer player is to have good foot skills.  I think if we had the better trainers working with our kids at younger ages.  We would have better players. Instead we have kids U13-U15 trying to play catchup.


Seriously, you think it is important to PAY more for a 10 year old than invest at U17 when the player has earned their way to top of their respective divisions?  The kids at younger ages need to be trained, but they also just have to play the game for fun.  Get them excited about the game and allow them to experience positives and failures within the game.  Cost shouldn't be $2,000-3,000 for a 10 year old.
Its the same coach coaching the 10 year olds as coaching the U16s spending the same amount of time, do we ask them to take less $ for time spent with younger ages? No break on field costs with the younger ages...where does the cost go down?


They are not practicing as long...at least they shouldn't.  You lose focus on these kids after about an hour.  You can practice more days, but for shorter periods.  The coach that is developing these kids shouldn't have to make $50-100/kid per month to teach them to love the game.  There are plenty of people in this world who WANT to give back to the game, unless you are a PRO coach who wants to make a living off the game.
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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2008, 11:31:59 AM »

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Brian, what do you think is an appropriate cost for a U11 player for a year of training, games, tourneys, etc within a top level PDL club?

How about at U14?

How about at U17?

Just wondering as I think the answer as it stands now is more at U11 than at the older ages and I find that just wrong.


I am not sure what the cost should be for U-11.  I do think the cost should be more for U-11 than U-17.  If it is done right.  Which in most cases it is not.  The younger ages should cost more,  but the coaches and trainers should spend more time with the kids.  First touch and skill training should be at the forefront.  Teh only way to become a good soccer player is to have good foot skills.  I think if we had the better trainers working with our kids at younger ages.  We would have better players. Instead we have kids U13-U15 trying to play catchup.


Seriously, you think it is important to PAY more for a 10 year old than invest at U17 when the player has earned their way to top of their respective divisions?  The kids at younger ages need to be trained, but they also just have to play the game for fun.  Get them excited about the game and allow them to experience positives and failures within the game.  Cost shouldn't be $2,000-3,000 for a 10 year old.
Its the same coach coaching the 10 year olds as coaching the U16s spending the same amount of time, do we ask them to take less $ for time spent with younger ages? No break on field costs with the younger ages...where does the cost go down?


They are not practicing as long...at least they shouldn't.  You lose focus on these kids after about an hour.  You can practice more days, but for shorter periods.  The coach that is developing these kids shouldn't have to make $50-100/kid per month to teach them to love the game.  There are plenty of people in this world who WANT to give back to the game, unless you are a PRO coach who wants to make a living off the game.


Yote,  I am in.  Now that you are done with your older girls.  It sounds like you are willing to give back to the game.  So, you will train my kids for free???  I am in.  I would be happy to send you a PM to get them started.  Thanks,  BM
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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2008, 11:35:53 AM »

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Brian, what do you think is an appropriate cost for a U11 player for a year of training, games, tourneys, etc within a top level PDL club?

How about at U14?

How about at U17?

Just wondering as I think the answer as it stands now is more at U11 than at the older ages and I find that just wrong.


I am not sure what the cost should be for U-11.  I do think the cost should be more for U-11 than U-17.  If it is done right.  Which in most cases it is not.  The younger ages should cost more,  but the coaches and trainers should spend more time with the kids.  First touch and skill training should be at the forefront.  Teh only way to become a good soccer player is to have good foot skills.  I think if we had the better trainers working with our kids at younger ages.  We would have better players. Instead we have kids U13-U15 trying to play catchup.


Seriously, you think it is important to PAY more for a 10 year old than invest at U17 when the player has earned their way to top of their respective divisions?  The kids at younger ages need to be trained, but they also just have to play the game for fun.  Get them excited about the game and allow them to experience positives and failures within the game.  Cost shouldn't be $2,000-3,000 for a 10 year old.
Its the same coach coaching the 10 year olds as coaching the U16s spending the same amount of time, do we ask them to take less $ for time spent with younger ages? No break on field costs with the younger ages...where does the cost go down?


They are not practicing as long...at least they shouldn't.  You lose focus on these kids after about an hour.  You can practice more days, but for shorter periods.  The coach that is developing these kids shouldn't have to make $50-100/kid per month to teach them to love the game.  There are plenty of people in this world who WANT to give back to the game, unless you are a PRO coach who wants to make a living off the game.


Yote,  I am in.  Now that you are done with your older girls.  It sounds like you are willing to give back to the game.  So, you will train my kids for free???  I am in.  I would be happy to send you a PM to get them started.  Thanks,  BM

Dangnabit BM! I have been working on him all year for my kids and now you step in! Back off Buddy!  ;)  ;) :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2008, 12:02:10 PM »

I have done it the last four years with only a nice gift card to Anthony's or Home Depot in return. :lol:   And I didn't even ask for those.
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