Topic: Coach that threatens Violence (Read 55415 times)

duffer · « **on:** May 21, 2008, 08:01:55 AM »

If a club knowingly emploees a coach that when things don,t go his way calls other coaches and threatens to kick there ass beat them down and brerates them with foul languge ! Is there any place for a guy with this ability to snap coaching 10year old kids Or any kid for that matter! 3 years ago Lwysa removed a coach for foul language now they protect Possible violent behavior This is not somthing that was acceptable a few years back! Looks like LWYSA is back to its old behaver! what other things are being swept under the rug?

Sorry Squash I know you asked me not to say anything but I don,t listen To you or any one ealse ! Ya Ya you asked nice But I,m not !!!And all info I get is not from Squash ! Fact ! its from someone that PMs me tons of great stuff!

duffer · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2008, 09:54:29 AM »

Just got a PM from Jim Thanks! It looks like this topic is to hot for crossfire board they all step aside and ask LWYSA to deal with this deal! WOW it must be really bad The crossfire board hires these guys with the guidence from there coaching directors and fires every one tell it comes to this guy! Well boys that spells it out You have no right running crossfire with out the aprovale of LWYSA on everything! If you only want the good you have no right to the tuff dicistions of running a youth org!

I will do my best to tell you the names of all people that defend this guys actions! Keep those PM comeing!!!

Squash · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:06:15 AM »

I'll be honest..... There is a course that these things take and it's best for me to just not comment on it. I know these issues take time.

I will not deny that something happened, but this is not a topic I should be involved in. I can't stop others nor will I, I just won't be posting on the topic myself. :|

duffer · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:18:40 AM »

Well I can tell you this crossfire does not want rec over seeing them so if they hand this over to LWYSA you know this $hit is bad and they want no part of it!!!They only want there names on the good sorry boys this is a black eye for Crossfire! You want your kid playing for a club that passes the buck when its time to get rid of a bad coach?

PrideNJoy · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:20:49 AM »

Quote from: "duffer"

Well I can tell you this crossfire does not want rec over seeing them so if they hand this over to LWYSA you know this $hit is bad and they want no part of it!!!They only want there names on the good sorry boys this is a black eye for Crossfire! You want your kid playing for a club that passes the buck when its time to get rid of a bad coach?

yet they have the opportunity to handle it in house and not only retain their reputation, but build some more positivity by doing the right thing, publicly

git 'er done x, take the hit, make the statement, get back on track

duffer · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:24:37 AM »

Quote from: "PrideNJoy"

Quote from: "duffer"
Well I can tell you this crossfire does not want rec over seeing them so if they hand this over to LWYSA you know this $hit is bad and they want no part of it!!!They only want there names on the good sorry boys this is a black eye for Crossfire! You want your kid playing for a club that passes the buck when its time to get rid of a bad coach?

yet they have the opportunity to handle it in house and not only retain their reputation, but build some more positivity by doing the right thing, publicly

git 'er done x, take the hit, make the statement, get back on track

Yes this is very true but will they They may have to cut deeper than people think when its all said and done!

PrideNJoy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:28:11 AM »

Quote from: "duffer"

Quote from: "PrideNJoy"
Quote from: "duffer"
Well I can tell you this crossfire does not want rec over seeing them so if they hand this over to LWYSA you know this $hit is bad and they want no part of it!!!They only want there names on the good sorry boys this is a black eye for Crossfire! You want your kid playing for a club that passes the buck when its time to get rid of a bad coach?

yet they have the opportunity to handle it in house and not only retain their reputation, but build some more positivity by doing the right thing, publicly

git 'er done x, take the hit, make the statement, get back on track

Yes this is very true but will they They may have to cut deeper than people think when its all said and done!

well, to be the best, administratviely too, actions prove more than words so to speak. cut deep, surgically remove, and push onward and upward.

like my favorite west wing potus used to say, 'what's next' and move on!

EWSoccer64 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:40:24 AM »

Aha, the other shoe drops.

It may well be that the State Coaches Ethics Committee is very busy this coming month, since they normally (by default) have to oversee the abuses of administrators as well.

Now what would you do if the slim majority of an entire state executivecommittee deliberately overstepped their authority and then tried - in writing - to cover it up and pretend that their actions were approved by 30 people instead of 5?

To promote the interests of one of their drinking buddies?

PrideNJoy · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:48:06 AM »

Quote from: "EWSoccer64"

Aha, the other shoe drops.

It may well be that the State Coaches Ethics Committee is very busy this coming month, since they normally (by default) have to oversee the abuses of administrators as well.

Now what would you do if the slim majority of an entire state executivecommittee deliberately overstepped their authority and then tried - in writing - to cover it up and pretend that their actions were approved by 30 people instead of 5?

To promote the interests of one of their drinking buddies?

interesting. plenty of lines to read between there.

by the way. since character and reputation are in debate, not to mention the alleged actions. how far out of the realm of possiblity is it that this person step up, take responsibility, put him/her self in front of the committee handling this affair, make public apologie(s), talk with the players and parents of the team(s) coached by this person, and resign. sometimes, people can suprise us by facing their own demons and admitting the problem to help themselves and all those effected. This person would/could gain some respect and credibility back, the club can/should follow up with proceedural memoradum regarding behavior and punishements, and regain it's standing in the public eye, the kids, while having the issue to still deal with, will be on the road to wellness rather than following a floundering leader with questionable motives/tactics.

prove it's not a club wide thing....someone

duffer · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2008, 10:49:26 AM »

Quote from: "EWSoccer64"

Aha, the other shoe drops.

It may well be that the State Coaches Ethics Committee is very busy this coming month, since they normally (by default) have to oversee the abuses of administrators as well.

Now what would you do if the slim majority of an entire state executivecommittee deliberately overstepped their authority and then tried - in writing - to cover it up and pretend that their actions were approved by 30 people instead of 5?

To promote the interests of one of their drinking buddies?

I would fire or get rid of the 5 involved yesterday! I do,nt care what they have done for soccer! That behaver is cancer and has no place in youth sports!!!

yote19 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:09:54 AM »

I know that DOC's make a large financial sum at Crossfire. So much so that they have one for girls and one for guys. Isn't it their responsibility to handle these situations, especially when it involves one of their coaches. Stand up and do the right thing and be an administrator for what you are paid to do ... manage coaches.

soccerdiva · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:15:00 AM »

But what if the coach is your best drinking buddy?

Old Dog · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:39:32 AM »

Quote from: "soccerdiva"

But what if the coach is your best drinking buddy?

Buddy? I don't think so.......... Buddets are more his style!

The Coach is with whom I speak.

LEFTWINGER · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2008, 11:41:42 AM »

LIKE HOCKEY LIKE LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL-FOOTBALL THE UGLY HEAD OF SOCCER HAS SURFACED. PATHETIC. DRINKING BUDDY OR NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING CAN BE A HARD THING TO DO, IT'S EASY TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. DID I SAY PATHETIC.

duffer · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2008, 06:26:28 PM »

Ok I have got 26PM from crossfire parents asking if they if they should be worried I say yes call your club and ask them why this guy is still emploed! The next part is the fact thats I have another 33 from people that know who it is! That fricking crazy! there guessing the right guy 33 that flat out wrong! Mr James you hired him you Fire him your club can not tolerate this You have to have a zero tolerance for theats of violance!He is working in a kids program You can,t treaten to beat some one up just because they do,nt agree with you! This brings being afraid to talk to coach to a whole new level!I would not worry about playing time I,d worry about getting my arss kicked for asking!

duffer · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2008, 09:17:15 AM »

Well heres an up date They are making new rule handing out another IF IT HAPPEN AGAIN what a bunch of $hit ya it will happen again but thats not the point!This guy cheats recruits trys to get every one he comes in contact FIRED and is a $hit bag yes Pushpop your a $hit bag Mr James is a compleat coward Three years ago he fires what he said was his good friend Well mr hoggy I guess your not that good of frend!What does Mr Pushpop have on the LWYSA board that they would not do the right thing! Oh thats right Crossfire have 3 of the 6 lwysa board seats Now talk about a conflict of intrest Talk about an ethics problem!I think Crossfire has some real shit bags if this guy keeps his job so we will start at the top and list them all Starting tommoro I,ll do alittle work tonight and get you duffers crossfire I,ma $hit bag list
What the heck is a past president board seat LOL MR mcintosh just say I want to now whats going ON Yes I see your helping with the collage thing but I would bet you kids at that age group always so self searving Just a taist of a quike scan of crossfire web sit!

The worst volenters of all are self serving! Becouse there needs always get in the way of the right choice! I wonder how many board members KID play for mr JAMES!

Gumby · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2008, 09:25:03 AM »

Quote from: "duffer"

Well heres an up date They are making new rule handing out another IF IT HAPPEN AGAIN what a bunch of $hit ya it will happen again but thats not the point!This guy cheats recruits trys to get every one he comes in contact FIRED and is a $hit bag yes Pushpop your a $hit bag Mr James is a compleat coward Three years ago he fires what he said was his good friend Well mr hoggy I guess your not that good of frend!What does Mr Pushpop have on the LWYSA board that they would not do the right thing! Oh thats right Crossfire have 4 of the 6 lwysa board seats Now talk about a conflict of intrest Talk about an ethics problem!I think Crossfire has some real shit bags if this guy keeps his job so we will start at the top and list them all Starting tommoro I,ll do alittle work tonight and get you duffers crossfire I,ma $hit bag list

Don't know anything about the offenses done (or not done) so won't comment, but the highlighted part is a problem... absolute power corrupts absolutely. Crossfire truly has NO checks at the association level? :shock:

duffer · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2008, 09:37:19 AM »

Quote from: "Gumby"

Quote from: "duffer"
Well heres an up date They are making new rule handing out another IF IT HAPPEN AGAIN what a bunch of $hit ya it will happen again but thats not the point!This guy cheats recruits trys to get every one he comes in contact FIRED and is a $hit bag yes Pushpop your a $hit bag Mr James is a compleat coward Three years ago he fires what he said was his good friend Well mr hoggy I guess your not that good of frend!What does Mr Pushpop have on the LWYSA board that they would not do the right thing! Oh thats right Crossfire have 4 of the 6 lwysa board seats Now talk about a conflict of intrest Talk about an ethics problem!I think Crossfire has some real shit bags if this guy keeps his job so we will start at the top and list them all Starting tommoro I,ll do alittle work tonight and get you duffers crossfire I,ma $hit bag list
Don't know anything about the offenses done (or not done) so won't comment, but the highlighted part is a problem... absolute power corrupts absolutely. Crossfire truly has NO checks at the association level? :shock:

I can tell you it happend Fact a grevance was filed monday and board members asked if an apolagy would fix the problem and guilty partys call info is recorded!Dates time of call and guilty party started by saying he never called Woops a daisy you dumB arss Its recorded Try a better lie next time! CROSSFIRE IS crurpt!!!The Hide coaches with real problem and You parents could be putting your selfs in harms way NEW RULE do,nt talk to coach at crossfire you could get your ass kicked!

Rock27 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2008, 01:15:36 PM »

keep the info coming duffer..this is scarey, just like a few years ago with this club.

EWSoccer64 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2008, 01:49:00 PM »

Way To Go Duffer!!!!

Keep up the flow of information. These clowns want to hide, to cover up, to lie. THey are a bunch of donkeys trying to protect one of their own and they deserve to be shown for what they are.

duffer · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2008, 09:22:36 AM »

So I,m checking out some of the guys on crossfire board This is not GOOD 3 of the five kids play for one coach MR James 4of five have kids on A teams the other has a kid on another diretors team
This is a real problem If 3of the five have kids on the directors team how does any on evaluate what diretors doing They are all have a conflict of intrest! And what the hell A board spot called past president? that looks made up to have a majority vote! And then You have 3 of the same guys with votes on the LWYSA board so how does that work every other club gets a presedent vote but crossfire Has a Hopp And mckintosh and kline have votes both with crossfire and LWYSA are you people compleatly curupt You don,t even have to ask will they sweep megsons violent threats under the carpet they allready have! Crossfire problem may be bigger than some guy thretenibg to kick another coaches ass! They may be just a bunch of cowards counting there days till there kids are done allowing a coaching director free rane to abuse a program! Well boys this is your moment You all were there when you fired hoggy what makes this any diffrent Oh ya A better freind to Mr James Well Hoggy looks like you were lucky to find out what kind of guys these board members and mr James really are They just did not like you!If they don,t fire megson does hoggy have a right to some money for being unjustly fired?Do the parents from hoggys team that loved there coach get there money back for this boards reclese behaver or will they do the right thing and remove megson! MORE tomorro!

duffer · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2008, 09:42:33 AM »

duffer has got word from Jim that name on grevance filed was Neil megson Yes there it is Neil Megson again!Mr megson I hope you will seek help for your temper you have sent me many PM threating the same violance I never thought you would cross the line and do it to a fellow coach! in youth sports you have taken this threating actions to your job! First you should be remove for this then you should get help! I,d say help first but you work with kids and parents in a youth program!that emploes you from year to year so you know that your job could be gone at any time for poor proformancs and this is not poor its horrible! There are so many things you have done while at crossfire that any other coach would have been removed I guess what you said to me about crossfire people is true There stupid have no clue about soccer and can,t touch you! If you forgot your words just ask I,ll send a copy of the PM I have all of yours printed and filed! Man theres some good ones! Yes I goated you on but I don,t coach kids!!!!

duffer · « **Reply #22 on:** May 23, 2008, 10:08:51 AM »

Doing a little work here How does a guy like MR KLien let this slide This is a guy that prides him self on doing the right thing! Thats what I,m told anyway Well Mr Klien Is your club going to sweap this under the carpet will you allow it your name and presedence at crossfire will be rememberd as the guy that did it right or the guy that in the end let the club hit the bottom! I think youve worked to hard Hell Ithink all your parents have worked to hard to have a coach involved in your club that threatens people with violence!!!

I know you must agree MR Klien

yote19 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 23, 2008, 10:21:53 AM »

Hey duff, is this other coach within Crossfire or outside of their organization (an opponent)? No excuse either way, but would help with my understanding.

duffer · « **Reply #24 on:** May 23, 2008, 10:45:19 AM »

Quote from: "yote19"

Hey duff, is this other coach within Crossfire or outside of their organization (an opponent)? No excuse either way, but would help with my understanding.

It was a crossfire coach!one he threaten to get fired! WOW thats no no help He wanted mckormick fired amy lombart Porter lumbart Jason harnasch and more sorry but it was a fellow coach In some ways its worse !!!

yote19 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 23, 2008, 11:01:02 AM »

That is totally rediculous. Coaches within an organization should be a team within themselves, working together to strengthen the entire organization. Shame on Neil.

Rock27 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 23, 2008, 11:54:10 AM »

All of this just makes me sick. Was hoping all the crap that this club went through a few years back would help; now see it appears to be a cyclical thing.

About evaluations and proper placement of players - I heard that the gentleman you mainly speak has a grandson on an A team; and a b coach just placed his fat stepson on a B team. I'm sure there is much more that those that read this site must know and imagine all the cp's that don't even know about this site and have no clue; just keep paying

what other youth sports compare? :cry:

Alpha8 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 23, 2008, 12:33:12 PM »

Isn't this the same guy that was caught cheating in regards to his roster not too long ago, illegal player or something???

So this is what we are all to expect Crossfire to be???

I have never thought of Crossfire in this way.....but over the last year I have heard so many negatives. Where there is smoke, there tends to be fire.

I agree that Crossfire should act with authority to save their image, and they should be swift in those actions. No other person in any trade or occupation would survive these actions. No company would tolerate this.

I am very disappointed in Crossfire if this is true.

IslanderCoach · « **Reply #28 on:** May 23, 2008, 01:20:55 PM »

In light of all that has transpired thus far, I love this quote from the top of the Bio on XF website for Neil Megson:

"I love coaching players with talent, but if you don't have a 100% work rate and a 100% passion for the game you're not going to make my teams."

Too funny :lol:

PrideNJoy · « **Reply #29 on:** May 23, 2008, 01:43:44 PM »

someone needs to simply copy and past the quote atop the 'our coaches' page.

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