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Should coach get diffrent treatmen than coach 3years ago

NO
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Yes becouse violace is good in youth sports
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« Reply #90 on: May 30, 2008, 10:01:48 PM »

Does duffer notice that duffer is talking to himself???
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« Reply #91 on: May 30, 2008, 10:09:54 PM »

oh but chippy.  we're alllll listening!
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« Reply #92 on: May 30, 2008, 10:14:22 PM »

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« Reply #93 on: May 30, 2008, 11:18:21 PM »

But how long til we hit 9000 views  :?:
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« Reply #94 on: May 30, 2008, 11:21:49 PM »

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8500 veiws And I know the $hit bags I talk about read it and theres more these guys have trunks full of stuff Well mostly nike gear that was for members Hey if a member ever wants the stuff that was given to the club to say thanks for all the uniforms the parents are forced to buy There going to have to pry it out of the hands of the very guys they pay to help them out!

Don,t ask thought or you,ll be sworn at and get a threat of an arss kicken! Free of charge!!!Crossfire is now $hit bag hidders
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« Reply #95 on: May 31, 2008, 12:59:04 AM »

get em duffer
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« Reply #96 on: May 31, 2008, 01:15:26 AM »

GO duffer!

YOU GO, MAN.

BRING THE CROOKED DONKEYS DOWN!!!!
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« Reply #97 on: May 31, 2008, 01:27:23 AM »

Don't know if all the "$hit bag" stuff is really needed, in fact it is not,. but every single paying customer of Black, Red, White, Crossfire Select, and maybe even LWYSA Rec teams ought to take a good long look at where their money is being spent.

I've looked... and it doesn't look like all of it is spent on your kid, or needy kids. Still,  I am not telling you not to continue.  You all are responsible adults.  Do what you think is best.  There is a niche for A TOP club in the state.  The question is , are you willing to pay for it?


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« Reply #98 on: May 31, 2008, 10:48:00 AM »

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Don't know if all the "shit bag" stuff is really needed, in fact it is not,. but every single paying customer of Black, Red, White, Crossfire Select, and maybe even LWYSA Rec teams ought to take a good long look at where their money is being spent.

I've looked... and it doesn't look like all of it is spent on your kid, or needy kids. Still,  I am not telling you not to continue.  You all are responsible adults.  Do what you think is best.  There is a niche for A TOP club in the state.  The question is , are you willing to pay for it?


Gumby please try and not say Shit its $hit Bags and yes they are its a duffer verb!You know person place or thing $hit bag ---Thing!!! and person in my veiw  I think megson and others are $hit bags you may like them and think there not $hit bags but duffer thinks there $hit bags Or If you would rather I think there all bags of $hit! I.ve had people PM me saying there much worse but I,m not ready to call them more that $hit bags or for you bags of $hit Heck if you would like I will change $hit to Poo but its all the same If $hit is the worse thing my kid says I will consider there upbringing a success!
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« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2008, 12:58:21 PM »

Hey duffer check out which XFire coach was fired from FC Alliance a few years ago and ended up coaching young XF girls.  Try and see how many of the XFire parents on that team complained about language their DD's reported the coach using at practices.  Ask what XFire did about it, and what they do about all negative parent evals (which of course are thrown out if anonymous, you are required to sign them).  Answer of course, is NOTHING was done.  Coach still coaching (badly)....
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« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2008, 03:02:00 PM »

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Hey duffer check out which XFire coach was fired from FC Alliance a few years ago and ended up coaching young XF girls.  Try and see how many of the XFire parents on that team complained about language their DD's reported the coach using at practices.  Ask what XFire did about it, and what they do about all negative parent evals (which of course are thrown out if anonymous, you are required to sign them).  Answer of course, is NOTHING was done.  Coach still coaching (badly)....


Ya but the best part is if you sighn your name and coach feels you could be right your gone !!

The evals should be sent to every familys home with team ID printed on it  every parent shoud be able to send back to club with out there name just there team # and they should be read by board members and if a coach eceeds complaint limit Say majoriy of team coach should be removed from that team! Now If a coach uses profanity of threatens harm to any one there GONE end of story Now crossfire is hidding bad coaches thinking there smart the problem is people at the national leval sponcers and large contributers are going to get letters telling them what there helping and how they are part of a bad deal in youth sports ! Plus a nice website link so they can have a look at what there dollors are fostering!!!WEIRD!
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« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2008, 07:34:26 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: June 02, 2008, 09:10:19 AM »

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Where would I find the top 4-5 paid employees salary information?


That information is listed at www.guidestar.org.
LWYSA's 2006 Form 990 only lists the compensation for three individuals:
Curt Bateman $65, 416
Bernie James $65,950 + $5298 in expenses
Peter Hatrip $69,521 + $5298 in expenses

Does anyone know the following:
Do these salaries include all the pay they get for coaching multible teams. I'm referring to James and Hatrip?? What does Peter Hatrip do for Crossfire to warrant that amount of money?? Let's be honest is Bernie James really worth all that $$$$

I'm also wondering  what the expense pay is for???? the traveling is covered by the teams and or the club. Could it be for the latte's and the beer for the good old boys club?


Theses numbers include team pay these numbers will be shocking for 2007-2008 they will have added 2-3more guys making that kinda cash ! What they are doing is Skimming cash off of every thing they do to subsidize a few coaches pay ! Making them an accadamy ast a turnament director Golf turny director red bull derector All Pdl rep Training academy diretor All this possitions that have very little work but great pay! There office girls and volenters still do 90% of the work and hand over the cash for the socalled oversite!

I did some asking around about Hatrip and was told they moved him to LWYSA side becouse he was to damb nice a guy!NOT cut throut enoght !I here James and Megson Feel the same way about Mccormic and that megso would like him fired and have his job! and that Megson has been given teams and bad mouth other coach at same age group to get players or even gone as far as to bad mouth other coaches to just get there team! Hes got fout teams Now maybe they think they shit on enoght people in there club and will not give him Five! NA!!!!!How do you coach four teams well ?How do those teams get better? They don,t this guys teams will always do pooly and no fault to the players!They just will not get the time to be great teams!

You can,t be a greet nationaly reconized club with coaches that don,t teach!  your best kids go to accadamy and you are no longer chaseing national champoinships you would think it would shift to development and winng would be number two! and that when players and parents understand that there would be no need for recruiting  they would want to come! WELL that was the path Crossfire WAS on then they get guys like megson and the model changes to some $hit bag way of running a club and I hold the board and LWYSA responcible for letting the likes of James and Megson bring down what could have been a national modle for CASH!!!!!

Now if James really cares about the kids He will get rid of guys the use foul words in front of the kids Get rid of coaches that threaten harm to otheres and get his club back on track and try and put his name back in good standing becouse right now ! Well Mr James your  known as the guy that lets $hit bags do what every they want becouse you forgot the kids!!!
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« Reply #103 on: June 02, 2008, 09:35:13 AM »

I have a question for Crossfire parents What direct returne are you getting for all your fundraising? lets say you prent raise 250-thousand in fund raising what return do you see for your kid?

Were does your kids 350.00dollors go?

Where does your kids free nike gear go?

Why do your fees keep climeng?

Why are you raising money for a program that 90percent of your kids will never play in?

Why does your board really only have A team parents?

Why is the club hireing and protecting coaches that would other wise be unemployable!

*Why is your club advertizing in prisons as a second chance program?

* was a joke but very close to the truth some of these coaches should be is and itegrity prison!And some should not be in youth sports!
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« Reply #104 on: June 03, 2008, 09:21:21 AM »

A parent wrote me and said what club does not have these problems and thats a good point so if your club has guys that use foul langage durinng practic and at turneys or at instates games
or coaches that threatem arss kickings to others! Let me know becouse right now the 36PMs in my file 30 are crossfire!!I really do under stand that things happen I get many PMs calling out coaches But if its only one parent I,m not going to say anything but if its 10-15 -30 Then yes theres a problem it may not be your team at crossfire it may not be your coach But if you deffending the bad than you know its there  I,m ashamed of you! and if you think just becouse your kids exsperance is good you don,t have to care about another I,m ashamed of you ! MR Bateman  Your watching what could be the best club in washington be ripped apart and you and mr kline Know its wrong and do nothing I,M ASHAMED OF YOU!!!
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« Reply #105 on: June 03, 2008, 09:35:21 AM »

Tell me this if you go to the store and pay 300+ dollors for a uniform you pay for all the logos on your uniform and lets say you make a deal with your new sponcer that they will put there name on every jersey and training shirt and the sponcer will pay you 40grand or so but it cost your parents 45grand in printing fees I say you just robbed petter to pay paul!

Sometimes forty grand an,t forty grand if sponce does not pay for screening of uniforms

So crossfire parents whos paying for those logos al over your kids
uniforms

Wait I know your getting a break on the uniform your forced to buy again and your really not paying for the printing That thinking works if your retarded!!

Crossfire is the only Nike premeir club that forfills it uniform quota ten fold and get nothing in return Well execept that 4000 dollor shopping spree for MR JAMEs at the nike store!

Oh did he thank you guys yet!!
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« Reply #106 on: June 04, 2008, 12:05:23 AM »

duffer looking at LWYSA bylaws and sees a problem with 9.6 Mr Bateman YOU! read this one yet? Things that make you go hummmmm!
You and the Pres like me yet I,m just getting started You keep allowing Bad people to work with kids You know what I love is old LWYSA board lost there jobs for being bad people after being asked if a few people were being over payed! That number was about 170,000. What is the payroll of Crossfires top 5 payed guys?

Lwysa was pulling 170,000 from 7000kids how many play for crossfire and how much are you boys letting them suck out of the 800+ kids playing there?

And Why is it megson can call someone on there phone threaten them with phisical harm and still be emploeed by LWYSA? Hogon used foul languge and was fired but megson uses languge and threats of violance and keeps his job? Well the proff is in the recording of facts I guess! What a $hit storm I,d hate to be guy that knows its a time bomb he could have defused! They call that Liable

What happens to a club that hides a problem and it happens again but this time the guy follows threw! There responcible there on the hook ! There paying damages!There losing there jobs!


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« Reply #107 on: June 04, 2008, 09:01:54 AM »

So I have to ask my self How  do guys like Lwysa president Mr Hill and exceutive director Mr Bateman Let Crossfire discrace the moral fabric of youth soccer Foul language cheating mis-use of funds in my oppion and coach that is threatening Violalce of other people! I think we trust our kids safety to these guys and they are comong up short! I Know there good guys but what would make them put your kids in harms way! And why would they be faulting duffer for helping them Identify problems? You may not like my in your face ways but on till some people feel the fire they will do nothing!So think of me as a forest fire that taking out thousands of acers
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« Reply #108 on: June 04, 2008, 05:11:27 PM »

Well duffers finaly got his shippment and will be sending crossfire and LWYSA onesize fits all clown suit! Yes a clown suit so they can take turns wearing it!It has no powers its just a suit to go with noses please wear with the understanding that your better off making your choices with suit on at least your looking the part for your actions!!!
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« Reply #109 on: June 05, 2008, 07:50:28 AM »

It is critically important to these sponsors that everyone understand how 100% of the  investments made into Crossfire will go to the financial aid program.  These  funds are  not provided for marketing sponsorship of Crossfire, and the use of T-mobile and Nokia  logos on our uniforms  is at the request of Crossfire to elevate exposure of  the club  both nationally and globally.


The first part is strait from there web site NOW the problem I have is rather than ask companys if they have patches for there sleeves they let there egos take over T-moble and nokia were happy to give money they did not ask to cheese up crosffires uniforms or to tax the parents doing so!
You people running these clubs just don,t get it you want to build a club and a name that  is put across the kids uniform you would have to rip a way from these kids kicking and screaming Not turn them in to some sports billboards there  Youth players should never give more than a sleeve for sponcers And to have CROSSFIRE sell T-Moble and nokia short by putting there names on the front of all these kids is EGO trying to give a fause Apperance of sucsess! Youve just sold out your parent kids and sence of club for ego and it cost your parent 3\4 of what the donation was

Its choices like these and alowing coaches tho swear in front of kids coaches that threaten violance over paying for materials cheating  recruiting and all the rest That is giving LWYSA and crossfire a name to be ashamed of Peaple that really are self serving trying to give you faulse hope that things are right

Welll boys and girls there wrong really wrong!And you and your kids are again asked to pay for some ego driven BOARDS CHOICES  

They hide bad coaches they cheat you out of cash
And now try and blind you with Pro like uniforms it laffable at best theres nothing world class about this move except its SCAM VALUE!
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« Reply #110 on: June 06, 2008, 08:03:06 AM »

Well you have to wonder how far they have all let there moral value slip OR should I say fall crossfire was a standerd people look to imulate But now are talking about the cheating recruiting lack of training by some coaches the foul words spoken to kids and about parents the hidding of coaches that treaten violance They more than likely will say that megson says it never happen Well it did He threatend to kick another coaches ass and they know it for a fact He told Mr James he did it !But they have put there heads up there own arsses as useual! Things like this NEVER GO AWAY they are the things that follow you forever! Mr klien crossfire board EVERY ONE knows what your all about and people wash there hands after meeting you boys! Mr James stick to coaching becouse as a coaching director your as BAD as it gets!!!Hidding a guy like that If I were mr hoggan I,d filr a wrongfuls termnation suit! Becouse its really is ok to use foul language THATS nothing you can threaten VIOLANCE now RIGHT MR MEGSON!! There taking kids to germany soon I would really have to think about that if my kid was going !!!

Wait NO I wouldn,t he would not be going Guy like that and no moral values!! This says drinking and troble writen all over it!!You parents that send your kids are friking asking for trouble
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« Reply #111 on: June 06, 2008, 10:14:19 AM »

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$= :evil:
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« Reply #112 on: June 10, 2008, 12:57:56 AM »

Why hasn't duffer been posting?  Did he go on vacation?  Or did "they" get to him?
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« Reply #113 on: June 10, 2008, 01:28:51 AM »

They got him. THEY always do.
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« Reply #114 on: June 10, 2008, 08:25:20 AM »

They got nothing Crossfire is the type of club that Hides $hit bags over charges to fund other things in there club has parents fund raising 24-7 and print T-moble on there jerzys to feel like there more than they are ! When youR no longer a leader these are the things you do

Heres the best part I talk like there going down WELL thats misleading there down and out I here people talk about them and you can see they have Cheated lied and stolen there way and thats what bottom feeders do!

Megson did not do this on his own he had help the very people that hide him now are as bad as the guy they hired and can,t fire!
Club president coaching director LWYSA there all $hit bags

Now people PM me all the time from Crossfire asking if there coach is one of the $hit bags ! its funny when you parents have to worry if its your coach it proves that CROSSFIRE no longer is a club its back to parents that worry about there team and not the club so CROSSFIRE has failed and are no longer any thing but another leech on the backs of your children!

Boards and directors like this make me sick! they have $hit all over there members for ego and sence of success but are cowards and lossers!!
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« Reply #115 on: June 10, 2008, 08:35:51 AM »

Heres a big question will crossfire send there U19 to reginals or will they skip it its things like this that show you the fabric of a club

You see if you enter and win and take away an oppritunity for another team that had the intestions of representing the state your not the winner your the losser and the problem!

Always missrepresenting and cheeting for a fouls sence of success!

Does CROSSFIRE DO THIS did they have teams that won that will not attend? If its cash find some and reward those kids for winning
You might as well for as much as you throw away on accadammy teams that are so badly coach there just average at best And are made up of kids that are some of are best!Its not your Kids parents it the coaching THEY just like the trips to see there other buddys that take money from children!!Also!!
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« Reply #116 on: June 10, 2008, 09:18:43 AM »

Heres some crazy numbers CROSSFIRE  Could have give every kid they have going to regionals 2000.00 each for the same price there paying for there accadamy team ONE accadamy team!!

Now thats $hitty!! How do those parent scrapping up the cash in these hard times feel now about the club flying around 20 kids to play there corney made up better leage crap NOW!!!

Hey I know Have all the parents Print a compainy logo on there shirt as a fund raiser to help the other teams!

Sorry Boys and girls that been done and the accadamy gets that for kids that can,t aford it!
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« Reply #117 on: June 11, 2008, 08:36:37 AM »

Megson takeing team to germany ??? This club not only hides $hitbags they pay for drinking trips there letting a know violance threatener take kids to germany a guy they have on SUPER SECRECT probation You know that kind right! Its were your emploeing a guy you should have fired becouse hes done so many things wrong hes told hes done all these things and more and your so goddam dumb you let him i staying telling your self hes on probation!and its super secret! Now that a Joke megson own crossfire says board and directors are his $hit puppets and you know what he may be right! Becouse they have done nothing to fix this guy except reward him with more cash and trips!!!

Heres the deal Crossfire board and LWYSA have fallen so far off the youth track that they look at criminal actions as cool!

Hey lets Cheat COOL hey lets Recruit and give money to kids that don,t need it cuz we can,t coach COOL hey lets pretend We have a sponcer that want there logo on are kids jerzys COOL Hey lets hide Megson when he does all these things plus acts like a child in front of or kids and let him call other coaches and threaten violance! COOL lets lets raise 400,000 for the acadamy and screw the rest of the club COOL lets hide behind duffers noses so people think were not $hitbags!Cool sorry boys still $hitbags noses have no powers to hide $hitbags!COOL At the next coaches meeting lets talk about the parent being stupid laff are asses off that they pay so much and drink beer  ! COOL
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« Reply #118 on: June 11, 2008, 10:36:49 AM »

duffer, there has got to have been a board meeting since all of this went down.  Did Crossfire and Lake Washington do nothing on this issue?  Was it even brought up?  When you bury your head in the sand, bad things continue to pile up.
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« Reply #119 on: June 11, 2008, 06:36:52 PM »

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duffer, there has got to have been a board meeting since all of this went down.  Did Crossfire and Lake Washington do nothing on this issue?  Was it even brought up?  When you bury your head in the sand, bad things continue to pile up.


Oh ya they had a meeting but they just told megson to say it never happen Thats how they do things now! They tell there coaches to be liers so its there word aganst  who ever accusses them and the club backs The lies knowing the whole time the things said are true Megson said he did it after he lied They told him to go back to the lie part! This was advice he got from the people he told he did it !
The Only ones he would have told the truth to is JAMES-KLIEN and Batemen so what does that make them!!NO BETTER THAN MEGSON! Those guys are already being looked at very poorly I was at an event and there names came up as real $hitbags!!
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