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[yote19]

Like ... uniforms that are purchased by the club, training accessories that are purchased by the club, travel expenses that are paid by the team fees, coffee drinks that are purchased by the moms and dads, beers that are bought by the DOC, meals purchased by parents :oops:

[gr8cgar]

Why should  a paid coach who drives to his job (the field) be any different than the rest of us who drive to our places of work :roll:

Because some of them coaches might be driving around picking up all their players........so lets not only add a fuel surcharge but lets throw in one of those nifty carpool vans too  

[EWSoccer64]

I'll bow to the almighty yote as well.  We're seeing a fuel surcharge on everything else... why not... at least its separated out from general expenses so once things stabalize(after our new polititians get elected   ) they can just lopp them off... right?  :?

Why should  a paid coach who drives to his job (the field) be any different than the rest of us who drive to our places of work :roll:

How 'bout volunteers?

For one, most volunteer coaches are parent coaches.

Quite honestly, some of the best coaches have been parent coaches, right Yote?

Parent Coaches get alot of schtick already.  Should volunteer non-parent coaches get more extra benes that volunteer parent coaches do not get?

I can see both sides of the arguement on this one.

[Squash]

I'll bow to the almighty yote as well.  We're seeing a fuel surcharge on everything else... why not... at least its separated out from general expenses so once things stabalize(after our new polititians get elected   ) they can just lopp them off... right?  :?

Why should  a paid coach who drives to his job (the field) be any different than the rest of us who drive to our places of work :roll:

How 'bout volunteers?

How about we bend your legs until your wires break!!!!  

[yote19]

What I heard was that it was only $5 or $10 per month...per player :shock:

[Brat Jr]

I can pull the RV to any field and park it there for the coaches! No gas bill!  :mrgreen:

[Gumby]

Like ... uniforms that are purchased by the club, training accessories that are purchased by the club, travel expenses that are paid by the team fees, coffee drinks that are purchased by the moms and dads, beers that are bought by the DOC, meals purchased by parents :oops:

Don't you mean FOR the DOC?  :lol:

[yote19]

probably goes both ways...not that there is anything wrong with that :oops:

[Gumby]

How about we bend your legs until your wires break!!!!  

Squashy... Squashy... Squashy...
Don't you remember, I'm UNBREAKABLE!!!  
Kinda like T2 that way.  You can even blow me up into bits and I just kinda gloop all back together again... good as new.  :mrgreen:

[EWSoccer64]

Since my club is so determined to ape the "big clubs" over in Puget Sound, perhaps I should suggest that we also implement a fuel surcharge.  Just because the big boys are or are going to do it....

I am certain that the Club Director would love it.........

[yote19]

Your players do come from a wider area vs. the metropolis of the westside.  How do you know it is not your club?  Remember I said it wasn't one the largest clubs.

[MA]

I hope all those volunteer coaches out there know that they can write off their mileage to and from games and practices.  :mrgreen:
Every little bit helps.  :roll:  :mrgreen:

[2muchsoccer]

Gas prices won't change kids from traveling far. You simply go with the flow and come up with creative ways to get them there is all.

and everyone who is waiting for the new changes to take effect when everyone is elected -- HA! I will believe it when I see it.
Gas 'may' only go down slightly after the fact, but I wouldn't hold my breath. They are smart, talk about lowering gas prices and you give them your vote!

[EWSoccer64]

I hope all those volunteer coaches out there know that they can write off their mileage to and from games and practices.  :mrgreen:
Every little bit helps.  :roll:  :mrgreen:

Only if you itemize.

[yote19]

Notices going out today (late I am sure on a Holiday Weekend) about fuel surcharges to the teams in red/blue.  Will the other clubs follow suit?

[yote19]

Yote got an email of the preliminary draft from a concerned board member. :?



TO: All Association and Club Players and Families

RE: Fuel Surcharges for Coaches and Administrators to Take Effect June 1, 2008

Date: May 23, 2008

Due to the recent rising cost associated with fuel products, it has had significant impact on our business of coaching and administering for our customers, your players.  In particular, because of the fuel increases clauses with our vendors (our coaches), we have found it increasingly difficult to meet the clauses of said contracts.

Because of the significant and unforeseen increases in our transportation costs, we must offset this increase by establishing the following surcharges effective June 1, 2008.

A surcharge of $5.00/month will be assessed on all recreational players starting in their June payments.  A surcharge of $10.00/month will be assessed on all premier players starting in their June payments.

Although we expect the surcharges to remain in effect at least through the end of 2008, we will review them within 120 days of implementation as we continue to monitor the effect of fuel costs on our operations and the ability of our coaches and administrators to particularly help each and everyone of your players.

Please contact your team administrator with any questions related to this policy.

Signed,

Executive Board

What do you all think?

[extremesoccer]

Yote got an email of the preliminary draft from a concerned board member. :?



TO: All Association and Club Players and Families

RE: Fuel Surcharges for Coaches and Administrators to Take Effect June 1, 2008

Date: May 23, 2008

Due to the recent rising cost associated with fuel products, it has had significant impact on our business of coaching and administering for our customers, your players.  In particular, because of the fuel increases clauses with our vendors (our coaches), we have found it increasingly difficult to meet the clauses of said contracts.

Because of the significant and unforeseen increases in our transportation costs, we must offset this increase by establishing the following surcharges effective June 1, 2008.

A surcharge of $5.00/month will be assessed on all recreational players starting in their June payments.  A surcharge of $10.00/month will be assessed on all premier players starting in their June payments.

Although we expect the surcharges to remain in effect at least through the end of 2008, we will review them within 120 days of implementation as we continue to monitor the effect of fuel costs on our operations and the ability of our coaches and administrators to particularly help each and everyone of your players.

Please contact your team administrator with any questions related to this policy.

Signed,

Executive Board

What do you all think?

I think it is a bunch of crock- everyone else has jobs as well and we are not getting a fuel credit- I can maybe understand paying to those volunteering for free, but to those that get paid- bologna!.

If any player from this club signed some sort of payment agreement or any sort of agreement with the club, review it carefully to see if "said increase" is stated- if it is not, then don't pay :roll:

What is next? This economy is going to hit these clubs even more, you wait-

Return of the volunteer clubs to the rescue :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

[PrideNJoy]

yikes.  who are the administrators spoken of?  team administrators = managers?  or are these club administrators.  not that it matters at all, just wondering.

@ $75 - 150 a month per team, not a bad deal for coach/administrators.  could be over 1/4 to 1/2  a months worth of gas.  Now, if a coach has more than one team that practice same night(s) but at diff times and coach doesn't have to leave the facility for say 5 hrs, all of the sudden it's like a bonus or pay raise , beyond the *cost of living*  I'd like to see any surcharge be calculated more accurately based on monthly mileage or something.  gotta have receipts for the paper trail.  not easy, I know......but hey, whatever

[PrideNJoy]

Yote got an email of the preliminary draft from a concerned board member. :?



TO: All Association and Club Players and Families

RE: Fuel Surcharges for Coaches and Administrators to Take Effect June 1, 2008

Date: May 23, 2008

Due to the recent rising cost associated with fuel products, it has had significant impact on our business of coaching and administering for our customers, your players.  In particular, because of the fuel increases clauses with our vendors (our coaches), we have found it increasingly difficult to meet the clauses of said contracts.

Because of the significant and unforeseen increases in our transportation costs, we must offset this increase by establishing the following surcharges effective June 1, 2008.

A surcharge of $5.00/month will be assessed on all recreational players starting in their June payments.  A surcharge of $10.00/month will be assessed on all premier players starting in their June payments.

Although we expect the surcharges to remain in effect at least through the end of 2008, we will review them within 120 days of implementation as we continue to monitor the effect of fuel costs on our operations and the ability of our coaches and administrators to particularly help each and everyone of your players.

Please contact your team administrator with any questions related to this policy.

Signed,

Executive Board

What do you all think?

I think it is a bunch of crock- everyone else has jobs as well and we are not getting a fuel credit- I can maybe understand paying to those volunteering for free, but to those that get paid- bologna!.

If any player from this club signed some sort of payment agreement or any sort of agreement with the club, review it carefully to see if "said increase" is stated- if it is not, then don't pay :roll:

What is next? This economy is going to hit these clubs even more, you wait-

Return of the volunteer clubs to the rescue :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

I totally agree.  While debt to income ratios increase for all of us because of economic downturn, higher prices-gas-food-milk-whatever, how can any club or business for that matter expect to maintain or even increase its profitibility by sticking it to the customer and thus not having to endure the same negative economics caused by inflation.

that last word is what it's all about.  and increasing *service, contractor, or vendor fees* is what drives it.  Rather than a pure communistic approach, where all will endure together and share the loss and gain equally, this is our capitalistic environment we know and love  

rambling dork, so don't mind me.  may be cheaper to have private training at the house 3 days a week and guest play for people than annual dues and the ever increasing stipens for paid professionals and administrators

[NoWimps]

I'd like to suggest that the team manager get a piece of the surcharge. They run all over getting uniforms, other equipment not to mention having to be at every practice to serve the Coach his dinner, take out his/her dry cleaning and get his/her car washed.

[Gumby]

Hey Yote,

Can I cut and paste that, with a few modifications, and send it to my boss?

I think she'll understand a nd pop me an extra $100.00/mo.  :lol:

[Victory]

I'd like to suggest that the team manager get a piece of the surcharge. They run all over getting uniforms, other equipment not to mention having to be at every practice to serve the Coach his dinner, take out his/her dry cleaning and get his/her car washed.

I think every team manager should get their pay doubled.  Lets see zero x 2 = ... oh well

[Futsal]

yikes.  who are the administrators spoken of?  team administrators = managers?  or are these club administrators.  not that it matters at all, just wondering.

@ $75 - 150 a month per team, not a bad deal for coach/administrators.  could be over 1/4 to 1/2  a months worth of gas.  Now, if a coach has more than one team that practice same night(s) but at diff times and coach doesn't have to leave the facility for say 5 hrs, all of the sudden it's like a bonus or pay raise , beyond the *cost of living*  I'd like to see any surcharge be calculated more accurately based on monthly mileage or something.  gotta have receipts for the paper trail.  not easy, I know......but hey, whatever

What if the coach ...

1. Drives an non-gas vehicle?

2. Drives a motorcycle or rides his bike

3. Lives within walking distance of the training fields

4. Car pools

[ThatJustHappened]

yikes.  who are the administrators spoken of?  team administrators = managers?  or are these club administrators.  not that it matters at all, just wondering.

@ $75 - 150 a month per team, not a bad deal for coach/administrators.  could be over 1/4 to 1/2  a months worth of gas.  Now, if a coach has more than one team that practice same night(s) but at diff times and coach doesn't have to leave the facility for say 5 hrs, all of the sudden it's like a bonus or pay raise , beyond the *cost of living*  I'd like to see any surcharge be calculated more accurately based on monthly mileage or something.  gotta have receipts for the paper trail.  not easy, I know......but hey, whatever

What if the coach ...

1. Drives an non-gas vehicle?

2. Drives a motorcycle or rides his bike

3. Lives within walking distance of the training fields

4. Car pools

What if you have a kind hearted coach who doesn't want the surcharge.  Would the money get kicked back to the team or will the club keep it? :shock:

[Rock27]

Yote got an email of the preliminary draft from a concerned board member. :?



TO: All Association and Club Players and Families

RE: Fuel Surcharges for Coaches and Administrators to Take Effect June 1, 2008

Date: May 23, 2008

Due to the recent rising cost associated with fuel products, it has had significant impact on our business of coaching and administering for our customers, your players.  In particular, because of the fuel increases clauses with our vendors (our coaches), we have found it increasingly difficult to meet the clauses of said contracts.

Because of the significant and unforeseen increases in our transportation costs, we must offset this increase by establishing the following surcharges effective June 1, 2008.

A surcharge of $5.00/month will be assessed on all recreational players starting in their June payments.  A surcharge of $10.00/month will be assessed on all premier players starting in their June payments.

Although we expect the surcharges to remain in effect at least through the end of 2008, we will review them within 120 days of implementation as we continue to monitor the effect of fuel costs on our operations and the ability of our coaches and administrators to particularly help each and everyone of your players.

Please contact your team administrator with any questions related to this policy.

Signed,

Executive Board

What do you all think?

I think it is a bunch of crock- everyone else has jobs as well and we are not getting a fuel credit- I can maybe understand paying to those volunteering for free, but to those that get paid- bologna!.

If any player from this club signed some sort of payment agreement or any sort of agreement with the club, review it carefully to see if "said increase" is stated- if it is not, then don't pay :roll:

What is next? This economy is going to hit these clubs even more, you wait-

Return of the volunteer clubs to the rescue :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

I totally agree.  While debt to income ratios increase for all of us because of economic downturn, higher prices-gas-food-milk-whatever, how can any club or business for that matter expect to maintain or even increase its profitibility by sticking it to the customer and thus not having to endure the same negative economics caused by inflation.

that last word is what it's all about.  and increasing *service, contractor, or vendor fees* is what drives it.  Rather than a pure communistic approach, where all will endure together and share the loss and gain equally, this is our capitalistic environment we know and love  

rambling dork, so don't mind me.  may be cheaper to have private training at the house 3 days a week and guest play for people than annual dues and the ever increasing stipens for paid professionals and administrators

It will and already has hit individual families.  We're trying to figure how to carpool to out of state tourneys.  And I had thought earlier of just the training and guest playing for the summer. Your dd or ds would get invited to join a team by fall anyway probably.

I've had coaches that do bike (30 miles!); drive a Prius; or to back to back practices with their other team.  This absolutely wouldn't be fair to add on something else.

Boy a good Select club sounds good right now.

[yote19]

I forgot to mention that this was for the Oroville Mountain Yaaks soccer club.  The one I consult for two weeks out of the year. :lol:

I was just messing before a long weekend.  Everybody enjoy and have fun

[Gumby]