The Pulse of Youth Soccer in Washington State

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 on: March 26, 2017, 11:03:31 PM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by tripleplay
The UK was admitted to the EU with special privileges ... and that wasn't good enough for these 'special' people.  Don't be surprised if the EPL teams can't play in the Champions League within 20 years.
LOL. That is wishful thinking. The EPL will be the world's most followed league for a long, long time. Players and coaches from around the world will always want to be a part of it.

I think the MLS, if smart, can start picking off the other Euro leagues, one at a time.

You're absolutely correct that the British have a completely unjustified sense of specialness. So do Americans. But maybe you have forgotten that the German variant of this has led to two world wars and the Holocaust.

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 on: March 26, 2017, 04:36:20 PM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by blacksheep
Deeply ingrained soccer culture

Yes but being 'deeply ingrained' is not necessarily a good thing.  I am Canadian originally and grew up playing hockey and soccer.  I will use a similar analogy from the Canadian hockey experience.  Canada was known for playing a physical style of hockey which became outdated with the end of the Cold War.  European players were simply better technically and the Canadian hockey program had to changed its 'deeply ingrained' habits.  I think American is actually in a better position than England for many reasons.  Perhaps the best reason is that Americans don't hold on to the deluded notion that because they invented the game they don't have to change their ways. 

Certainly there are efforts to change the EPL but you hear it in interview after interview from continental coaches - the game in England sucks and is inferior to other leagues.  The stupid habit of hoofing the ball down the field and chasing makes it impossible to develop superior soccer tactics.  Guardiola said this.  It is obvious.  I'd have to say that the Champion's League tells you which leagues have the best clubs in Europe 1. Spain 2. Germany 3. Italy 4. France and then England in fifth place.  Maybe in a few years we'll see the EPL catch up with the rest of Europe ... or then again maybe not.  Brexit will the challenge the patience of Europe.

The UK was admitted to the EU with special privileges ... and that wasn't good enough for these 'special' people.  Don't be surprised if the EPL teams can't play in the Champions League within 20 years. 

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 on: March 26, 2017, 09:32:42 AM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by tripleplay
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Kentucky and Alabama are poor, corruptly-run red states that are economically 50 years behind the more advanced states. But their colleges play great basketball and football. They focus on doing well in those sports because that is what they have going for them.

Can you elaborate on this analogy?  The Kentucky bball team has 15 players on its roster.  3 are from Kentucky.  Another 4 are from NC, Texas and Ark.  The rest are from the Northeast and three are from out of the country.

Is Kentucky the EPL or Brazil?
The analogy is imperfect. But they are backwards places who prioritize sporting achievement due to a more general inability to compete at other things. The Soviet bloc was another example of this. Communist governments placed emphasis on winning Olympic medals, and put a lot of money into that goal.

England (now) and the US (ever) don't have that motivation in soccer, and it puts those countries at a relative disadvantage. But England has a deeply engrained soccer culture. The US has youth programs and 1 league that was formed in 1995.

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 on: March 26, 2017, 09:07:14 AM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by merenguemom
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Kentucky and Alabama are poor, corruptly-run red states that are economically 50 years behind the more advanced states. But their colleges play great basketball and football. They focus on doing well in those sports because that is what they have going for them.

Can you elaborate on this analogy?  The Kentucky bball team has 15 players on its roster.  3 are from Kentucky.  Another 4 are from NC, Texas and Ark.  The rest are from the Northeast and three are from out of the country.

Is Kentucky the EPL or Brazil?

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 on: March 26, 2017, 08:49:21 AM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by tripleplay
Nice tap dance, Mr. Sheep, but wrong again. Almost any Brit (excepting the Bales) who can make an EPL team will earn a lot more money playing there than anywhere else. So why would they care about the lower paying leagues?

All the top Euro leagues have rules which incentivize or mandate that they take homegrown players. It's not an open market.

Of course, the EPL attracts lots of foreigners the same way that London has lots of immigrants. People follow opportunity.

That is why more Latin American players go to play in Europe than the reverse. Kentucky and Alabama are poor, corruptly-run red states that are economically 50 years behind the more advanced states. But their colleges play great basketball and football. They focus on doing well in those sports because that is what they have going for them.

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 on: March 26, 2017, 06:58:51 AM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by blacksheep
Yes my sloppiness.  Nevertheless the point still stands.  First of all the number of English players in the EPL starling 11 is down to about 30%

www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/18/fewer-englishmen-than-ever-on-show-in-premier-league/amp/

So if there are 20 teams (x 11) 220 players 30% means there are less than 70 players who are in the starting 11 and less than 4 players per team.  I'd further imagine that there are more Englishmen on the teams on the bottom half of the table (because they are more crappy).  So this is hardly surprising:

http://metro.co.uk/2016/10/10/revealed-chelsea-among-worst-offenders-for-failing-to-field-english-players-this-season-6183904/

So so much for this stupid argument that English players play in the EPL because they like playing there.  Some might.  But for the 70 players that play there, they probably didn't get great offers from anywhere else because ... the reputation is that English soccer and English players suck. 

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 on: March 25, 2017, 09:22:50 PM 
Started by blacksheep - Last post by skagitcoach
Can anyone name one major British player who plays outside of England?
Real Madrid's Gareth Bale is from Wales. He's not English, but he is most certainly British.

A person from the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland) and Northern Ireland is "British." Residents of the United Kingdom have British passports. Think of it this way: Citizens of England are British, but at the same time not all Brits are English. It's kind of like the distinction between being an American and a Washingtonian. Washington residents are Americans, but not all Americans are Washingtonians.






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 on: March 25, 2017, 06:51:18 PM 
Started by EWSoccer64 - Last post by LurkerRevealed
Forgot they were playing friday, caught last 40min on replay, and all I can say (ok I had more) is Bradley is consistent, seams like every game I watch he gives the ball away/errant pass 50% of the time, luckily we get it back immediately 80% of the time. Figure he was just tired in the send half, but then caught the 1st half later, and exactly the same as the 2nd half, every USMNT, MLS game I've watched. Roodan would be a better defensive center mid IMO and I'm not a huge fan.

Liked the intensity, think dempsey and pulsic could get creative together, morris still little slow creative wise, but is getting better each game and dempsey will help with that. I think USMNT can benefit with dempsey for another yr or 2 as a leader and guide. Altidore occasionally tries to be creative, but see no purpose to his "creativity" at all. If outside defenders not coming up waste of a body.

Overall players seam excited to play and work ethic was reminiscent of the past.

Much more excited to see them play on tuesday :drinks:

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 on: March 25, 2017, 08:56:44 AM 
Started by wit - Last post by tripleplay
DA2 doesnt mean anything.  It was a ridiculous attempt by a few clubs to get more money out of B team families by touting development, but was never sanctioned or approved by USSF.
Well, it will have half the kids at least. It wasn't clear whether both SU and EFC would have a DA2 team, or whether there would be one combined DA2 team. Who would they play?

Does anyone have info on costs/subsidies?

DA2 will play in RCL.
So SU and EFC will each have "DA2" teams at each RCL age group? Interesting.

SU is losing elite teams, replacing ECNL with a smaller # of DA teams.

WPFC is staying the same, having elite teams in ECNL.

EFC is staying the same, having no teams in elite leagues.

Crossfire is gaining elite teams, having teams in both ECNL and DA.

Is that a fair summary?

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 on: March 25, 2017, 08:49:44 AM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by sounderfan

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