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 on: Today at 02:40:30 AM 
Started by EagleclawFootballAcademy - Last post by ouch


https://eagleclawfc.com/advanced-academy/

Love this!  Good luck!

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 on: Today at 02:37:00 AM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by ouch
I'm not going to go into lots of detail - but it is important to hear this: Alex Kajumulo has a long trail of failed soccer projects littering his past. If he's part of this - approach with caution.

If Jimmy Ball is an "advisor" and Justin Lee is the ED, then I would definitely give the stink eye.
Do search of them here if you wish. Unbelievable.

I apologize, I'm not an OG here, and when doing a search couldn't find anything on Justin Lee.  Can you fill in some of us noobs?

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 on: Today at 02:32:05 AM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by ouch
I agree with raddad, let the market decide.  I think their "academy" could be the key to whether this works or not.

The market (aka most parents, excluding Eagleclaw families and those who understand learning is more important than the fool's gold of "academies" touting college showcases) wants college showcases and opportunities for their kids to be seen.  "The market" is part of the problem with player development in this country.  Rather than let "the market" decide, we need to first re-educate and reorient "the market" regarding the importance of learning over league/tournament results.  The real action is with clubs like Eagleclaw that strive to provide a real soccer education for truly long/term player development.

Eagleclaw will stick with PSPL for league play and pray the PSPL shuts down their Surf Academy. Soon.

Eagleclaw- I enjoy most of what you post, but this last one is a bit much.  Your families are looking for an alternative way to get to the same "academies".  I would agree that league/tournament results are not critical, but I've sat on the same sidelines with eagleclaw parents in PSPL games and have coached against your teams in indoor.  As a parent whose kids have played both PSPL and RCL, I appreciate your "why" but don't fool yourself in thinking that the parents of eagleclaw kids have different motivations or are any different than those in PSPL or RCL.  Your relationship with Coerver, your facilities, and your coaches sustain you.  But the families that support you run the gamut... just like all clubs.

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 on: February 25, 2017, 10:28:36 PM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by Gambit
Justin I'd appreciate you responding to my questions above.

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 on: February 25, 2017, 09:09:03 PM 
Started by EagleclawFootballAcademy - Last post by EagleclawFootballAcademy


https://eagleclawfc.com/advanced-academy/

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 on: February 25, 2017, 01:10:50 PM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by WASAY
http://www.washingtonsay.org/page/show/3125487-academy-tryouts

"PASS Academy provides training and tournament exposure for elite middle and high school players. PASS Academy was designed for serious U11-U18 players who aspire to play in college or with the national team. PASS Academy players will receive exposure to college recruiters through elite tournaments and college showcases."

So somehow PASS (the grass) will be better than ECNL, DA, GDA, ENPL, NPL, ODP, and other
alphabet soup academies. I love the part about national team.
Also, Justin Lee and Jimmy Ball? Wow. Digging up the dirt.

TacoTruck, thanks for your comment. I'm not sure what you mean by 4th division Surf but every club/league/academy has to begin somewhere. We'll continue to work hard and press forward to make youth soccer better in WA. Obviously you're a frustrated individual with a past that doesn't make you happy. I'm not sure of your sources but individuals like yourself I will not be able to change your views and I'm okay with that. I'm not here to make you happy but to answer questions about WASAY and its future in WA. I hope one day you will be able to support the positive things we will be doing in youth soccer.

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 on: February 25, 2017, 03:49:39 AM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by Tacotruck
Parents create the demand not the players. When the kids get older and they learn how soccer opportunities work they eventually want to play for different coaches and clubs. Unfortunately when parents are asked to pay $2k+tournament/travel fees then like anything else they want the best service/product for their money.
Hey, Justin. You guys are advertising here, so you do not get to frame the discussion
and decide what is valid or not to answer.

Ok, you're a businessman responding to unmet demands by providing all expensive, out of state
showcases where your teams (if you can even make teams) will get crushed and almost
no coach will be watching. 4th division Surf? Come on. Best service/product for their money?

Perhaps, you learned to how to keep financial records better than last time at Gunners.
Keep those receipts and make sure you wash your hands often. Those sticky fingers can
get things stuck that shouldn't be. You and Jimmy make a fine pair.


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 on: February 25, 2017, 02:05:59 AM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by EagleclawFootballAcademy
I agree with raddad, let the market decide.  I think their "academy" could be the key to whether this works or not.

The market (aka most parents, excluding Eagleclaw families and those who understand learning is more important than the fool's gold of "academies" touting college showcases) wants college showcases and opportunities for their kids to be seen.  "The market" is part of the problem with player development in this country.  Rather than let "the market" decide, we need to first re-educate and reorient "the market" regarding the importance of learning over league/tournament results.  The real action is with clubs like Eagleclaw that strive to provide a real soccer education for truly long/term player development.

Eagleclaw will stick with PSPL for league play and pray the PSPL shuts down their Surf Academy. Soon. 


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 on: February 25, 2017, 12:29:18 AM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by rustysurf83
I agree with raddad, let the market decide.  I think their "academy" could be the key to whether this works or not.  If I was running it I would try to lock down EWA and offer it to the youngest age groups.  If you are truly concerned with player development, I would implement a u8-u10 program.  Hell, do a free hour session for U7 and below once a month in Spokane and players will show up in droves.  It always amazes me how bad a lot of leagues, clubs, programs are at marketing and communication.  It isn't a terribly difficult concept but, if there's anything I've learned, you certainly don't get it just because you played professionally or have your A license.  In fact, that probably means that you are worse at it...

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 on: February 24, 2017, 10:00:48 PM 
Started by sounderfan - Last post by WASAY
Justin, I appreciate you getting on the post and stating things but I do not know whether it was clear what I was conveying.

I do believe EagleClaw's comments sum up what I was thinking and what a large number of people that have watched the evolution of the youth game is this corner of the country have been experiencing.  Too many leagues ... too little teaching.  Using the creation of a new league as a vehicle for growing players ... it appears to be the wrong tool in the toolbox.  Leagues are not about players, they are about scheduling competition and reviewing which teams are getting too many yellow cards and dealing with whether team X is willing to play on Sundays.  Is that really what your folks want to be doing?

How about doing what a program like EagleClaw does? Teaching players and letting the administration of game day be handled by a computer or some admin or group of admins.  There is no glory in running a development program, no state cups to win, and the league being run by others who often times will tell you to piss off. But in serving ONLY the needs of your playing members and not getting into the machinations of league .... you become a long-time instructor to them and teacher that eclipses things like leagues and clubs.

I do believe Alex and Eddie a number of others on your team to care about growing players and have witnessed first hand players under their care grow as players. So I get it that you have resources to impact players.  My fear is the demands of trying to grow another league in WA ... stealing this team or that team away from this league or that league ... is going to be about applying expertise in an area that will yield little to no benefit for the players and not showcase your talents.  Why a league?

If you truly care about impacting players ... kids ... start small with teaching the 6 year old how to use both feet.  Grow players.  And put your heart behind making an existing league better. Whether that be PSPL or RCL or NPSL or XYZ.  Certainly you can impact kids that way, no? 

When you talk about creating another league, that is way beyond trying to create something to improve a player.  Leagues are usually run by parties that need to place a bunch of existing players on game day. You have the beauty in that you can start from scratch and focus on the players, not forming a league, and drill down on what you can do to make these players great and then use the league to assess them versus the other clubs. As Eagleclaw said, don't you believe we are 'over-leagued' in WA and its getting worse. What is NOT needed is another youth league.  What the real needs is growing players one at a time. 

Can't you work within a group of organizations to support an existing league?  I do not think PSPL requires things like association membership to play there. Why not enroll your players on teams there?

I'm not understanding this path to running a league if the motivation is about creating greater players.

ForTheKids, thanks for the feedback. We are not here to rule WA but really want to form a league and education process through excellent leadership. Nationally we have the support of SAY which makes our directors feel they will not be crippled by big brother. In a perfect world yes building whats already in place might be the answer but that would only work in my opinion if soccer was free. Parents create the demand not the players. When the kids get older and they learn how soccer opportunities work they eventually want to play for different coaches and clubs. Unfortunately when parents are asked to pay $2k+tournament/travel fees then like anything else they want the best service/product for their money.

I've been part of the PSPL and RCL. They have their flaws but I really don't want to make my presence here on the forum all about the negative side of PSPL or RCL but instead discuss the things WASAY is planning to do in the upcoming years.

SPL will cover all the necessary age groups but as a new league we are taking baby steps to make sure we do not bite more than we can chew. My role as the ED is to formulate a group of talent directors and advisors to help me make WASAY successful in the right way.

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